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SkaveRat, do gaming w Show some respect

It’s even weirder that this boot screen was there since 2013

MalReynolds, do games w Gamepad for Linux Gaming?
@MalReynolds@piefed.social avatar

I have an 8bitdo and like it as well, one thing to consider tho is Steam Controller 2 is "extremely close", might be worth holding out for that to drop atm, the original is pretty legendary and 2 seems based on steamdeck layout.

sonofearth,

Does 8bitdo work well with Lutris? I saw a video posted 5 years ago where you had to add Lutris to Steam and launch it from there for the controllers to work.

MalReynolds,
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Sorry, don’t use Lutris, either Steam or straight to Bottles. But I’ll guess yes, with the dongle it comes up as a normal XBox controller unless you jump through hoops to get extra buttons going.

magic_lobster_party, do games w Gamepad for Linux Gaming?

I’ve been using the same base Xbox One controller for a while. It was easy to set up for Linux. Just had to install some extra package but after that it was good to go.

Out of all the mainline console controllers, Xbox One’s is my favorite. They really nailed it with that one.

TabbsTheBat, do games w What personal dramas have you witnessed with/among your fellow players while gaming?
@TabbsTheBat@pawb.social avatar

I used to play growtopia as a kid (don’t play it now, it went downhill lol), and I’ve seen a ton of scams/griefs among my friend circle, people would work for ages to gain someone’s trust and then either steal via picking up dropped items, not returning borrowed items, ooor… if you gave them access to your world they’d log in when you’re offline and literally tear the whole thing down to bedrock, even valueless blocks

kn0wmad1c, do gaming w Show some respect
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I don’t know why, but the top screen looks like a 2013-era iPhone and I can’t unsee it.

Tollana1234567,

i wouldnt be surprised if apple stole that design.

SkunkWorkz,

This thing was released in 2017.

stupidcasey,

I’ve always thought that, couldn’t necessarily think on anything wrong with it but it all seems weird.

Multiplexer, do games w Gamepad for Linux Gaming?

Logitech F710, works pretty seamlessly for me on Kubuntu and Mint with GoG/Lutris.

YiddishMcSquidish, do games w What's a recent game you've tried playing that isn't worth the hype?

Friend recommended one of the hitman games. But the steam port is so incredibly janky in regards to controller layout. And it was fucking made for consoles is what’s bonkers!!!

qevlarr,
@qevlarr@lemmy.world avatar

Huh what?

YiddishMcSquidish,

There’s a game series called “hitman”. A friend recommended one of the games. I installed it and had difficulty playing it because it was difficult to control the character. The game was made in an era when it needed to be released on consoles to be financially viable. If it is released on consoles, it follows that it needs to be made for people controlling the character with a “controller”. The steam deck is kinda set up as a “controller”.

Despite these two seemingly perfect intersections, the game does not play well on the steam deck.

BryceBassitt,

Can you give me an example of what you found difficult? I’m unsure because, huh what?

YiddishMcSquidish,

They didn’t add controller support in the steam version so it’s more or less emulating the keyboard. I’m the top left corner it has “E”,“SPC”,& another key, and gives you a description of the action associated with those keys which change depending on the situation. Getting the rifle in the intro mission was a chore between picking up the case and having to choose it from the inventory to take it out, then trying to get into scoped mode because none of that is labeled on the action keys. Also having a joystick emulate a mouse comes with it’s own issues. It just wasn’t an enjoyable experience trying to pay it.

I_Clean_Here,

Are you playing the first Hitman game from the early 2000s by any chance? Because sounds like it. The new ones have full controller support, silly.

YiddishMcSquidish,

Blood money

BryceBassitt,

Ah, Blood Money. Phenomenal game but old 🫤

qevlarr,
@qevlarr@lemmy.world avatar

That explains. What Hitman version are you referring to? You said Steam port but I own Hitman World of Assassination on Steam using an XBox controller, and I never thought the controls were poor. But you’re specifically talking about Steam Deck. I cannot comment on that

YiddishMcSquidish,

Blood money

southernbrewer,

I’ve never played a consoley Hitman nor tried a controller, but I loved the original hitman (silent assassin) and the original series sequels up till about Blood Money. I didnt enjoy Absolution, it’s too choreographed unlike the originals where you could actually be creative and kill people in a variety of ways.

Then got pretty confused when I realised they reset the numbering with “Hitman” and “Hitman 2” (why do games do this?) and just gave up at that point and haven’t tried them or anything newer

1985MustangCobra, do games w What's a recent game you've tried playing that isn't worth the hype?
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statisfactory 1.0: the game is pure eye candy there’s no endgame. factorio is leaps and bounds better

Fizz,
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

Yeah I’m a huge factorio player and I so badly wanted to like satisfactory but i can only describe the gameplay as cock and ball torture. For the first 6 hours you are getting kicked in the balls repeatedly by pointless tasks that drag you out of the automation loop. The game is not playable until you unlock the hydro power.

With friends it helped mask the pain.

1985MustangCobra,
@1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca avatar

I was not throwing shade in the game as it is pure eye candy, when you unlock the space elevator that was a “holy shit” moment. It does really look good, but factorio the base game, I could get lost in for days, nevermind doing mods like pyanodon.

Fizz,
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

Yes I agree it looks so amazing. I love seeing Satisfactory base tours and seeing all the different setups I just cant enjoy playing it myself sadly.

burntbacon,

Oh, damn. I’m like a few dozen hours in and still no hydro power. I must be a slow player. :(

I do, however, have a fifteen gajillion story high factory that I’m building, so there’s that!

Fizz,
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

I was playing in a group of 4 and am just spitballing time. Its been a while so maybe it was 12hr+

tigeruppercut,

Spoken like someone who never built a hypertube cannon to fling yourself beyond the boundaries of the map

www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2X3wlvoShg

schnurrito, do games w Gamepad for Linux Gaming?

I don’t think there’s much difference. Any standard USB gamepad should work equally fine. I find the Xbox layout more comfortable than the PlayStation one, but this may be different for different people.

impudentmortal, do games w Gamepad for Linux Gaming?

I love my 8Bitdo Ultimate controller. It’s comfortable to use and holds a decent charge. Having a charging stand is really useful too. If you have multiple non-PC devices, I would recommend getting the Pro version so that you can use Bluetooth. Otherwise, the USB one will work well.

Only other minor negative is that the d-pad is a little mushy so I will occasionally hit the wrong direction accidentally. So not the greatest for fighting games.

If you don’t need the charging stand, there are cheaper USB only controllers too.

Lastly, if you want to try to improve your posture, my family bought some chair restraint straps for my grandma who kept tilting in her chair. The ones I linked aren’t what we got her but they were the cheapest I could find. You may also want to get your eyes checked. Could be the reason you’re leaning forwards so much is because you can’t see as clearly as you think.

DesolateMood, do games w Gamepad for Linux Gaming?

I would recommend grabbing a third party controller since for some reason ($$$), none of the big three consoles make first party controllers with hall effect sticks. Search on Amazon for “Xbox hall effect controller” and 99% of the results will work fine. Off the top of my head, I know 8BitDo and GameSir are reputable brands

hissingmeerkat,

I have a couple Beitong Asura 2 Pro+s with hall effect sensors. They work great and haven’t worn out like the litany of xbox and ds4 controllers that preceded them.

ArsonButCute, do games w Gamepad for Linux Gaming?

If you like Offset sticks, the Xbox elite series controllers are phenomenal, it will require additional drivers.

I prefer my sticks aligned, so I usually use my custom DS4 from scuf.

Sometimes I like my stadia controller, it just feels nice in the hands.

I hate the switch pro Controller, it feels… Off somehow.

For retro gaming I use an OG Xbox controller (custom USB bodge job) or my 8bitdo sn30pro+ while I like the 8bitdo, its bluetooth is Unreliable so I recommend using a cable.

sonofearth,

Well I have never used any controller or a console before. For almost 20 years I have been a keyboard+mouse guy. So for me, a plug and play controller would be nice. Bluetooth is not a priority for me rn. Given that as well as all the advice in the comments, I am leaning towards this one.

Suck_on_my_Presence, do games w Gamepad for Linux Gaming?

I’ve been using an Xbox pro controller for a while on my Mint setup, just plugged in. I can’t get the Bluetooth to connect and I assume it’s because I need to update the drivers for the controller via Windows. 🤷 Whatever.

But my controller bit the dust somewhat recently, so I grabbed a PS5 controller this time and it works right out of the box, no issue. I haven’t tried the Bluetooth to be honest because I’m so used to playing plugged in, but meh. The little trackpad thing on the PlayStation controller also works well as a mouse trackpad when I’m far away from my PC (like if I have it running in the living room instead of at a desk).

ArsonButCute,

Re: xbox

You need drivers for it.

wiki.archlinux.org/title/Gamepad#Xbox_Wireless_Co…

While the package names and how to install them will be different since you’re on mint, this section in the Arch wiki discusses your options for Xbox controllers.

skrunch, do games w What's a recent game you've tried playing that isn't worth the hype?

All the souls games. I don’t get it, they’re just no fun 🤷‍♂️

Also, never finished doom eternal, far too busy. Dark ages was great tho

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

Souls games didn’t make sense to me until I saw Giant Bomb play through Demon’s Souls. Mechanics that I didn’t know were there were explained in plain English, and then I could better understand where I went wrong when I died.

BlameTheAntifa,

There was a time when I could not have imagined liking those kinds of games. My partner got me Dark Souls Prepare to Die Edition and I hated it. Hate may be too kind a word for how I felt. I’ve always loved metroidvanias and the style seemed right up my gothy, witchy alley, but I couldn’t get past the first basic zombie.

Then we watched a bunch of videos and realized that the game was designed to be played slowly and deliberately. There were no “junk” enemies and paying careful attention at all times was the game. When it clicked, it clicked, and now From Software games are my favorite.

BreakerSwitch,

I had a similar experience. Went the wrong way in DS1, headed straight for the catacombs, went “oh. This isn’t hard. This is punishing.” And dropped off. Later a friend gave me some guidance and some pointers on what the game did/didn’t expect of me and I’ve been a giant fan ever since.

Sekiro took me a little time to figure out what it expected from me, too, but now I absolutely adore that game. That’s more of a mechanical “what should I be doing in combat” statement of the fact that the game expects you to act aggressively while focusing on defense. Though

Katana314,

I’ve enjoyed a lot of Soulslikes, but none of the ones made by FromSoft. Their style of providing poor explanations of mechanisms just makes no sense to me, even if you want to give players those moments of self-driven discovery.

domi,
@domi@lemmy.secnd.me avatar

Now I’m wondering, which non-From Soulslikes did you enjoy?

Katana314,

Another Crab’s Treasure, Stellar Blade, Jedi: FO and Survivor, Hollow Knight, Tunic, and lately Steelrising.

Some of those games are a bit easier but also have harder moments. To me, it’s about having a better-structured difficult curve.

BuboScandiacus,
@BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz avatar

All the souls games. I don’t get it

They’re memorisation timesinks

Datz,

It depends on person and skill, a lot of people manage to beat a majority of bosses 1st try.

Also, personally, I just like using magic which makes some parts easier.

BreakerSwitch,

Honestly I think a lot of people miss that these games are full of soft difficulty options. Magic, in particular pyromancy, summons, there are lots of ways to make the game easier, and that’s a good thing!

Datz,

I recently replayed Dark Souls 1 and tried a Strength build to see how it goes.

Full Havel’s straight up lets you face tank Artorias, and you’re taking almost a 1/15th of his health with just a hit.

Armor was nerfed after that, but still, it was rather hilarious. Magic was nerfed too by the virtue of bosses getting more gap closers and ranged attacks - by Elden Ring, magic is far from the boring “stay back and just spam attack” idea, but on the contrary, the cheesiest tactics I used when needed were Greatshields or dual jump attacks for stunning bosses. There’s videos out there of people beating Malenia by just shield poking her to death with a spear, and I certainly used that when I wasn’t having fun with Rellana. It’s crazy to me how most people just grab a greatsword and only use that the whole game, then say the game’s shallow or too hard.

burntbacon,

I really struggled when I tried magic, and then in DS2 I picked up an ultragreatsword and great shield and the game just felt right to play. Like, every boss timing seemed to be perfectly in line with my speed, where before it was always a struggle to refrain from trying to get one last button mash in with the faster weapons.

who,

My first attempt was Dark Souls 3. I went in expecting challenging but rewarding battles, and a mysterious world to explore. Unfortunately, I found myself bored within an hour every time I played, and gave up on it after maybe a dozen sessions.

I tried Elden Ring maybe a year or two later. I stuck with it for longer, but the experience was roughly the same. The combat felt tedious. The art and animation didn’t appeal to my tastes. The world seemed big, but desolate. The controls somehow made me feel awkwardly disconnected from my character. Nothing about the game made me care about it at all. The biggest challenge was in keeping my eyelids open.

I wonder if I would find soulslikes more appealing if I had grown up on console games. They’re clearly popular, but it seems they just aren’t for me.

Crashumbc,

I actually bought DS3 twice, For the PS4 the first time, and couldn’t do anything. I’m not a console person by nature. Then I found out it was on PC, my jam, got it and OMG is that port shitty

Leonyx,

I love the fuck out of dark fantasy. The problem is that while souls-games and Elden Ring, are drenched with dark fantasy elements, the game execution itself just didn't appeal to me at all. I just don't like the idea of tediousness mixed with a scale of difficulty where all and any progress of mine are just dashed because a slight misstep.

quietude, do games w What's a recent game you've tried playing that isn't worth the hype?

Life

cicadagen,

Yeah, mid characters except few…

dantheclamman,
@dantheclamman@lemmy.world avatar

Graphics are great. Hardware requirements are low, but there are bugs that accumulate with more play time. Learning curve is infinite and permadeath is only option despite a bunch of claims to mod/patch it. PVP is broken, constant spawn camping and pay to play behavior. Microtransactions are a pain. Huge variety of mission types, yet it still ends up feeling like a bunch of fetch quests sometimes. Side quests are the way to go, the main campaign is not super rewarding

DigDoug, (edited )

Side quests are the way to go, the main campaign is not super rewarding

The worst part is that you’re forced to spend at least 1/3 of your time playing grinding out the main campaign. Then you are highly incentivised to spend another 1/3 of your time in game not playing due to the rest mechanic. That only leaves 1/3 of your time in game for any other tasks, including extra preparation for the main quest. Not to mention the fatigue system which often leaves you unable to do side quests when you have the opportunity.

I’m glad I didn’t roll any of the classes with extra lives, to be honest.

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