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SethTaylor, do gaming w Whine harder you assholes
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Transphobic dudes experiencing gender dysphoria playing as a woman

sine, do games w Weekly Recommendations Thread: What are you playing this week?
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Ruffy and the riverside

Ending is a little off, but overall an enjoyable simple platformer.

elvis_depresley, do games w Weekly Recommendations Thread: What are you playing this week?

I discovered Inscryption this week. It’s a story driven, deck builder, escape room game.

ampersandrew,
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Without spoiling anything for anyone…how uh…how far are you?

elvis_depresley,

I would say I finished the main game and have done a part of the post game.

If that makes sense :)

ampersandrew,
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I think you’ve seen that there’s more than meets the eye, at the very least, so we can leave it at that. A friend of mine was quite sure he had almost finished it before when he was nowhere close, lol.

matcha_addict, do games w Weekly Recommendations Thread: What are you playing this week?

Final Fantasy: strangers of paradise

It has a co-op mode (up to 3 players), which is a huge plus for me.

Whats great:

  • variety of weapons and combat styles
  • aesthetics
  • Variety of enemies
  • co-op mode

Whats decent:

  • combat
  • character customizations
  • level design

Whats meh:

  • exploration and rewards

Whats not good

  • story. Wasn’t really interesting and some parts I didn’t understand.

Overall I really enjoyed it, because not many coop games I can play with loved ones.

rockettaco37, do gaming w Whine harder you assholes
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Making the straights uncomfortable is great fun. :D

Bennyboybumberchums,

Its working real well in America right now… Almost like being a prick to people for “great fun” had negative consequences or something… But lets imagine someone said “Making the gays uncomfortable is great fun. :D”… That would be bigotry, right? Yet for some weird reason, you feel totally fine and safe to say something like that… How odd…

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Did you just now blamed gay people for what’s happening in US? For real?

Bennyboybumberchums,

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  • rockettaco37,
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    Get back to me when straight people start facing systematic oppression. Until then, kindly go fuck yourself.

    Bennyboybumberchums,

    lol Ah, yes. The excuses. “Its ok for me to be a bigot because reasons!!!”. And then you wonder why you get that hate back. What a spoon eating cunt you are.

    rockettaco37,
    @rockettaco37@lemmy.world avatar

    Cry a little more, you whiny inbred twatwaffle.

    Bennyboybumberchums,

    Man, they ruined a perfectly good bum when they put teeth in your mouth.

    RizzRustbolt,

    “They called me a fascist bigot, so I had to start acting like one!” is the argument you’re accidentally making here.

    Bennyboybumberchums,

    Yeah, thats pretty much how it works. If you treat people like theyre pieces of shit long enough, they start acting like pieces of shit. Its fucking basic psychology.

    If everyone calls you a dick for long enough, it will chip away at your self esteem. Eventually, in order to try to improve your situation, you’ll reach out to something bigger than your self. Thats happens every single day for things MUCH less than treating people like they are fascists. For most people, the thing they reach out for is a football team or something like that. But for others, it can be something much worse. Like race, or religion, of political parties. People often ask “How is racism still a thing?” Well, this is how. Low self esteem. And it happens every day with out the help of fuckwits like the guy I responded to, who has clearly already made their choice to be a bigot.

    Theres never any excuse to hate a person because of their skin colour, their sex/gender, or who they love. And if youre trying to make an excuse, you might not be the hero of the story you think you are.

    RizzRustbolt,

    Or… perhaps some honest self-examination is in order?

    Bennyboybumberchums,

    Or perhaps, its fucking text book? Christ, pick up a book and actually read it sometime, instead of just getting all your information from facebook.

    bluecat_OwO,
    @bluecat_OwO@lemmy.world avatar

    maybe the connotation behind this is, gay people making straight (homophobic) people uncomfortable.

    Because every other meaning would derive into a form of hatred one way or the other

    rockettaco37,
    @rockettaco37@lemmy.world avatar

    Yes, but unfortunately some people in this thread lack the reading comprehension to understand that. That’s ok. I’m sure if they keep practicing, they’ll get there eventually.

    Bennyboybumberchums,

    “I didnt say what I mean(yes you fucking did), and now Im going to cry about it.”

    Since the first time some asshole cried “die, cis scum, die” we have known exactly who some of you are.

    bluecat_OwO,
    @bluecat_OwO@lemmy.world avatar

    bruh who knows what they meant, but what you mean is, I am pretty sure, kind of mean.

    Don’t be a meanie bennyboybumberchums, spread love, even if they don’t love you(consensually ofc)

    Bennyboybumberchums,

    We know exactly what they meant, because they said the words. Thats how you know what people mean. If they meant to say make bigots feel uncomfortable, they would have said that. But they didnt. Why? Because they see all straight people as the enemy in this weird little culture war they have going on.

    Im a firm believer in you doing whatever you want in life, as long as it doesnt hurt anyone else. Trans, gay, straight and everyone else in between. You do you. But when I see this shit? Dude, rubs me the wrong way. Its just hate to fuel the stupid as fuck culture wars. And people are eating it up and spreading it around. Straight people are not the enemy. Some of them might be, that that doesnt mean you get to hate them all, any more than you get to hate all black guys because some of them sell drugs to kids. Thats just bigotry, and it makes hate so much easier to spread. Just look at MAGA, and how easily it spread amongst them. All because nuance left the conversation, and everyone started to generalise. Its enough, it really is.

    bluecat_OwO,
    @bluecat_OwO@lemmy.world avatar

    Yes I agree with all of what you said here. But I also believe that if they say they didn’t mean what they said, and the original statement has the possibility to get misconstrued then I think they can be given a chance.

    Unlike maga figurehead, who contradicts his every statement on hourly basis

    pogodem0n, do games w Weekly Recommendations Thread: What are you playing this week?

    Hollow Knight in preparation for Silksong

    whyrat, do games w Weekly Recommendations Thread: What are you playing this week?

    Abiotic Factor

    MourningDove, do gaming w Whine harder you assholes

    The addition of romance options in game needs to just be removed. It’s incredibly cringy and rarely ever adds anything to the narrative aside from side-plot fodder.

    Leave relationships to The Sims and quit wasting the time that’s better spent making the game more stable and bug free.

    faythofdragons,

    Either get rid of it or make every romance option open to PCs regardless of character creation options.

    I dunno what you’re saying about the Sims tho, the last time I did romance in the Sims I was killing all my spouses to collect types of death. Far more interesting than the average romance option in games.

    MiddleAgesModem,

    Looks like someone’s bitter he didn’t get any alien tang in Mass Effect

    MourningDove, (edited )

    Seriously… What’s the deal with everyone here making psychological evaluations of one’s disposition based solely on assumptions made from a single comment? I see it everywhere. Is there some mandated requirement with Lemmy that people subscribe to the 2007 Internet Denizens Guidebook to Being Edgy?

    Dude, I’ve logged about 20 minutes of time in Mass Effect. I didn’t like it. So I have no idea what “alien tang” is.

    I simply voiced my opinion on the subject as everyone else has. If that’s not how things work here, then I can definitely see why the user count is diminishing.

    MotoAsh,

    Donpt characterize an entire platform. It’s reductive, srong, and stupid of you to anthropomorphise an entire platform.

    MourningDove,

    What platform did I characterize exactly? And I don’t think you know what anthropomorphize means.

    Pheta,

    That's how the world works buddy. Sorry if you stepped outside your echo chamber, but romance is a part of stories as much as romance will always be a genre of books.

    And everyone's gonna judge you if you say stupid shit like this. 'Psychological evaluation', as you put it, is just extrapolating. Or, if you need smaller words, guessing that since you're dumb enough to completely dismiss romance as being worthy of including in a plot, you might be dumb enough to be a bible thumping Karen, or part of Collective Shout.

    If you really think being a bigot is okay, I don't really know what else to tell you. Bye, don't let the door hit you on the way out? You don't have many friends?

    But yeah, welcome to the real world.

    MourningDove,

    I don’t recall anything I said being bigoted at all, but the. Again- I’m not in charge how you interpret information.

    Speaking of wind tunnels, it appears as if I haphazardly stepped into yours. Apologies that I upset you as it wasn’t my intention.

    Real quick… I was told Lemmy was different than Reddit, clearly that’s not the case here, as a different opinion is frowned upon- so could you maybe direct me to the area of lemmy that _they were talking about?

    It’d be a big help, buddy!

    MiddleAgesModem,

    Missing out on the sweet, sweet Asari ass

    sunzu2,

    That's what I thought about it too but witcher 3 converted me.

    Bg3 is alright too... Nobody is forcing anyone do gay shit.

    I don't get the melt down. I never seen it being forced in vidiya unlike hollycreeps produced trash

    daggermoon,

    You must be a fun person /s

    MourningDove,

    I’m totally not! /s

    MiddleAgesModem,

    Tali seemed to think so

    B0NK3RS, do games w Weekly Recommendations Thread: What are you playing this week?
    @B0NK3RS@lemmy.world avatar

    Skies of Arcadia Legends

    I’ve barely played this version and it really makes it less of a chore compared to the Dreamcast version.

    Squad

    It’s hard to recommend to new players because of some big issues the game has but it’s the only game that I play 90% for the social interaction it brings.

    orenj, do games w Weekly Recommendations Thread: What are you playing this week?
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    I’m about to start EX mode in Void Stranger. The method to unlock it and the tail puzzle are the only two solutions I’ve just looked up for this game because holy shit do I not have the time for that lol.

    Good game, with the exception of those two puzzles specifically

    Kolanaki, do gaming w Whine harder you assholes
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    No one is forced to be straight… Most games don’t even have romances.

    Like you think Doom Guy is straight because he’s clearly a Christian? When I control him, he’s the gayest queen in Hell. 🤷‍♂️

    UnderpantsWeevil,
    @UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

    No one is forced to be straight…

    Virtually every JRPG has a straight romance subplot, typically staring the main character. Every FF since… six? Every Dragon Quest. Every Persona. Kingdom Hearts. Fucking Mario Brothers has a straight romance in it.

    Like you think Doom Guy is straight because he’s clearly a Christian?

    I think you can head-cannon that the two dudes in Time Crisis are having hard core steamy Special Agent on Special Agent lovemakings in between chapters. Fine and good.

    But when Arno & Elise kiss in Assassin’s Creed Unity? I’m sorry, but nobody needs to see that heteronormative degenerate filth. Kids are playing that game. What are they going to grow up thinking?

    KombatWombat,

    For Mario and Peach, Nintendo has had decades to do something and hasn’t. They officially confirmed they’re just friends I believe.

    For Kingdom Hearts, it’s a similar thing with Sora and Kairi. There are some undertones and potentially attraction but they’re just friends, and children besides. They haven’t done so much as kiss. Plus with Birth by Sleep it’s shown that Sora literally has had another dude inside him for years.

    HeyThisIsntTheYMCA,
    @HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar

    SoraXRiku what’s this kairi bullshit

    KombatWombat,
    HeyThisIsntTheYMCA,
    @HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar

    exACTly

    skisnow,

    Those relationships are straight-coded as heck though, there’s no way you could flip genders on Peach or Kairi and not have the result be interpreted by gamers as super gay.

    Pheta,

    nobody needs to see that heteronormative degenerate filth. Kids are playing that game.

    Wow, didn't expect someone speaking so loudly about same sex relationships to be so bigoted, but all walks of life, I guess. Either way, I seriously hope you have no interaction with anyone below the age of 30 personally or professionally.

    I'm not gonna even get into how romance is just a part of a story, and if you read anything that has romance in it, fanfic or not, it has just as much a right to exist.

    I will however rip into you pointing out franchises for 'heteronormative degenerate filth'. First, the game isn't about you. No game ever is, nor ever will be. If that is a moral failing of a game, I suggest you start making games yourself or stop playing them, because any other expectation is really stupid beyond compare.

    I will concede that games often lure you into self inserting yourself into the main character, as JRPGs tend to do. But at some point, the illusion has to break, and I can't really imagine how you'd get mad if you're self inserting into Zidane (FF IX protagonist) or even Leon or Cloud ( I hope you know enough about franchises you're trash talking to know who they are).

    Also, to complain about the Assassin's Creed franchise of all things is so braindead I have to question if you're a plant. You're saying children are playing a game whose whole premise is premediated murder, and the romance scenes are what you're up in arms about? That is honestly beneath anything that breathes to acknowledge, and really shows that critical thinking is a skill.

    Do note, however, that if children are playing a game with mature content in it? That's the parent's responsibility as an individual to care for their child. Games aren't obligated to include or exclude content to suit children, nor even whiny little shits like yourself.

    hypna,

    I think it was satire

    Machinist,
    @Machinist@lemmy.world avatar

    Wooooooooooosh

    michaelmrose,

    I think user is joking or trolling

    Zahille7,

    I feel like your point about ACU is good, but I also feel like the Arno/Elise romance is a driving factor for his character. Sure, it’s unfortunate it’s yet another straight romance story, and I feel like an argument could be made that it almost should have been a gay romance between two boys who grew up together. Idk where I’m really going with this besides I think the romance in general is the point and not the fact that it’s with Elise, a woman.

    UnderpantsWeevil,
    @UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

    Sure, it’s unfortunate it’s yet another straight romance story

    I’m not really begrudging the straightness of the romance. More scoffing at the double standard. Nobody who complains about non-hetero romance seems to mind this https://media.tenor.com/fCzuj602feIAAAAM/superstar-saga-mario.gif

    Zahille7,

    It took me a couple times rereading your comment this morning to really realize what you mean.

    And I agree with your point fully.

    bluecat_OwO,
    @bluecat_OwO@lemmy.world avatar

    I feel moved! imagine a 6’7 monster like human, ripping apart monsters to save a rabbit, but its a total drag queen outside the outer space

    RizzRustbolt,

    Doom Guy is canonically ace. But the story is still vague on wether he is panromantic or not.

    Nelots, do games w Weekly Recommendations Thread: What are you playing this week?

    I'm playing split-screen Halo MCC with my brother. I've only got a 27" monitor to play on, so cutting the screen in half makes it very small and really brings back some of the nostalgia of playing the game back on the original xbox with a tiny little box tv lol.

    With a mixture of the AlphaRing mod and an edit to the settings.json file for EasyAntiCheat, I'm still able to get achievements despite using a mod which is nice. We're currently playing through Halo 2 on Legendary, which is less nice. Sniper Jackals are the bane of our existence.

    Ulrich, do games w Weekly Recommendations Thread: What are you playing this week?
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    High On Life

    10/10 story-driven FPS game from the creators of Rick and Morty. Not excessively complicated or difficult. Your house is teleported to another planet. You have defend yourself with guns that are also talking aliens (gatlians). Not graphically intensive either so would be good for mobile gaming.

    Quicky,

    I enjoyed this. A shooter with a different feel and a vibrant palette, and genuinely funny in parts.

    I also got banned from the Xbox subreddit a couple of years ago because of this game. Apparently a photo of the in-game sounding rods was inappropriate. Mate, it's literally an unedited screenshot from an Xbox game.

    muusemuuse, do gaming w Whine harder you assholes
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    No one is forcing them to do anything. They can choose to play the game or to do anything else.

    Soup,

    Oh and buddy they will yell about how much they won’t play a game and how their boycott will kill it while the game does just fine.

    Bennyboybumberchums,

    Yeah, remember Hogwarts Legacy… What a bunch of morons. Screaming about boycotts, and how they wont play the game…

    Soup,

    The people I saw boycotting it, myself included, didn’t think that our absence would kill the game. It should have, because people shouldn’t be supporting a rich, powerful, raging transphobe but they knew it wouldn’t. Meanwhile “go woke go broke” really just doesn’t work unless your entire business hinges on a large amount of terrible people, like the customer base for cheap beer that dared try to treat people like people.

    Besides, if your opinion is “they put a gay person near this game and that’s why I won’t play it” vs “the person who gets a shitload of money frok this game is actively working against human rights” and you think those are equal arguments I got a few bridges over distant water I’d love to introduce to.

    Bennyboybumberchums,

    Edit: Sorry, didnt realise how much I wrote. I will totally understand if you dont read all that.

    “Go woke, go broke” isnt about what you are saying its about. It is for some people, those horrible maga cunts, but for the majority it means something else.

    The problem is that word “woke”. It means different things to different people. You, I imagine, would say it meant its original meaning. To call out social injustice. Yes? But around the time of the rise of the online influencer, 4chan, started a trend of using “woke” ironically to describe online influencers who used social justice issues for their own benefit. ie “Dont forget to like, share and subscribe so we can fight racism together!”. Those people didnt give a fuck about social issues, only the money they get by saying the right things. Now, at some point, the maga fuckwits misunderstood the 4chan use, and started using it to mean anything that didnt have a white straight male in the lead role.

    Now, what “go woke, go broke” means to the majority, the normal people. If that if you make movies, games, tv shows that pander to the perpetually online, people will stop buying your shit. And its true. Not because its a girl in the lead role, or a black guy, and an LGBT person. But because these characters tend to fucking suck.

    Ill give you the most obvious example. Rey from the sequel trilogy. She is, what would become known as, a disney girlboss. The girlboss isnt just a female lead. Theres loads of great female leads in great movies. No, the girlboss is like a mary sue, but worse. If you look at Rey, the character, shes great at everything. Everyone loves her. etc etc. But she also, loves to tell(not show) the audience how much of independent woman she is. Did you notice, that she never loses a fight with Kylo Ren? Except once, which wasnt a fight, she was just captured. And that was only done to show as that she didnt need any help, that she could save herself. But the real damage is that because the character is never allowed to fail, she never grows. And worse than that, Kylo Ren is never a threat to her. He doesnt win in light sabre duel, a force dual or anything else. Hes not threat to her what so ever. That makes for a bad villain. And having good villains, is what makes heroes great.

    Now, you can look anywhere you want. And you can see the girlbosses and online pandering shit everywhere. And you can also see those franchise, dying. Disney, bought Marvel and Star Wars because they were a girls brand, and wanted to reach the boys market as well. But in the past decade, they have taken both of those brands into the girls camp. So much so, that variety just did a piece of the Disney looking at way to get gen z boy/men back into their brands.

    Marvel movies over the past 5 years, are dying a death. The Marvels making less than a 100m domestic, after the first movie making for a billion WW. Even WW money, the Marvel only just manages to reach 200m. And that was on a production budget of over 230m, not contenting marketing and all the other costs that would take it well north of 300m. All these bad movies, with terrible girlbosses, that are just women given toxic masculinity traits, have done so much damage that only a handful of movies now are getting past 500m WW.

    No one wanted to play the new dragon age game, because it was cringe as fuck. But oh, look how many people played Baulders gate 3? Almost like including non straight white men into gaming, isnt a problem after all. Almost like, its the writing and the presentation thats the problem.

    So whenever you see “Go woke, Go broke”. For the majority, it means stop writing dog shit that panders to perpetually online people who wont go to watch it, or play it.

    And as for Hogwarts, who cares? Shes already made money off the licencing. Shes going to be making money on the new tv shows too. Who gives a fuck what she thinks, or what she posts online? You dont have to agree with her. In fact, you probably shouldnt. But then maybe, you shouldnt have made her villain either. Because, as you say, shes got fuck tonnes of money. And at the start all she was doing was speaking out for female women. Not against trans woman. But you all ganged up, and turned her into the monster shes become. She was one of the most left wing people on the fucking planet. And she got turned into a monster, because she wanted womens voices to be heard on the issue as well, and didnt want the language changed to accommodate others. I mean, you do remember that this all started because of the push to refer to women by their biological functions, right?

    This whole argument, the culture wars, the gender wars, the trans wars, could all be avoided by just talking to each other. But no, “everyone who doesnt agree with me is a cunt” is everyone mindset. And its escalating into the real world. America is a fucking hell hole just now. The UK, not much better, and worse looming on the horizon. And for what? Because some fucking bigots who hate white men got power in the entertainment industry? And all of sudden instead of their being something for everyone, there was only every things for those social media deemed worthy. We cant even get a hot white girl into a pair of fucking jeans, without people crying online that is nazi propaganda.

    Have whatever characters you want. But make them real people, not lectures, not panders, real. That means relatable. Like, imagine the last of us. But instead of brothers, Joel and Tommy are lovers. The story doenst change. Almost nothing changes. But Joel, would still be relatable and likeable. Because it was his character that spoke to people, not the fact he was straight. Shit, look at black sails. That did have a gay lead character. And he was awesome. Totally fucking relatable. Brilliant tv show by the way if you havent watched it. Point is, make good shows, good movies, good games and you can avoid the word “woke” going anywhere near your product.

    Soup,

    I’ll be honest, I wanted to read it all but the skim seemed enough and moving my trans friend 3hrs away today is taking it outta me.

    I can counter with one simple argument: Straight characters often suck rocks, are subject to the same lazy writing, and there are so many dude “girlbosses” in fiction it would tiring if we weren’t desenstized to it.

    And that’s what’s really happening. We aren’t used to seeing a female lead all that often, especially one who is just a person and not ultimately relying on male characters. If we want to talk about pandering writing we can look no further than all the incredibly forced straight romances in media and we’ll have enough shitty material to last a lifetime. They’ll force anyone together so long as their genitals match up just so a movie can have a romance aspect when it never needed one. If their private bits don’t match it’s suddenly “pandering” and people clamber to demand some kind of justification as if there needs to be a special reason why someone is gay in the first place.

    Bennyboybumberchums,

    Youre right, there is male mary sues, and they suck too. I mean, The Rock has it in his contract that hes not allowed to lose a fight, and people just arent turning up for him like they were. But hes not a girlboss, a girlboss is its own unique thing, because we know The Rock sucks, but no one is calling us racist for saying it.

    But look at Ghostbusters 2016 all the way to the Acolyte, and all you get is “if you dont like it, its cos your sexist/racist/homophobic”. Does that sound right to you? The general audience, is all racists? That youtube grifters convinced 153 million households around the world not to watch a good show because there was a gay black girl in it? Sorry, not for me.

    No one is telling me The Rock is fucking amazing in Black Adam, and then calling me a cunt for saying its a rubbish movie. But I said I didnt like the last of us part 2, and I was sexist and a homophobe. And no matter how detailed I made the point that it was a bad deconstruction of righteous avenger, no one would hear a word of it. I was just sexist and homophobic.

    And this is getting to the larger point, where the companies making these things are painting the fans of them, as incels when they dont like it. Funny how we were incels when we didnt like bad movies like The Green Lantern… And then on top of that, you have things like She Hulk and The Batman making incels the villains. Oh what could they possibly be saying here?

    Last thing Ill say on the subject is this. I grew up in the 80s. When I was a kid, I bullied for liking star trek, star wars, marvel comics etc. Called name, beaten, all that great stuff. Now that Im older, Im still being called names now that those things are popular, or were popular. And it was the same crowd both times. The popular kids, who thought they were too good for nerd stuff in the past and now think it should change in the future to reflect them. The only problem with that is, that they dont actually care about it. And now, the nerds like me have been chased off. We are going either. And thats how you take a 2 billion a movie franchise, and turn it into a tv franchise that cant even make CW numbers.

    Theres really no way around it. The treatment of the core audience, has chased everyone away. Star Wars, Marvel, etc. And now Disney is looking for a new IP to bring the boys back… Its insane. They had two of the biggest boy brands on the planet, and then made a massive big deal about making them for women. Who dont care about it. Cos most women, dont care about that stuff. Most probably just go with their boyfriends, but that they arent going…

    Anyway, thanks for reading. Bigger thanks for not letting this get into a name calling match. Good luck with the move, and have a great weekend.

    JigglySackles, do games w Why do new Silent Hill entries attract so much negativity?

    For me, it looks like a good game. But doesn’t look like Silent Hill. Because of this it comes off as a game that was made and had the SH name slapped on it for street cred. That never works well in any case I’ve seen. Usually ends up the worst rated in a series.

    memo,
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    Genuinely curious, why does it not look like SH? Is it because of the japanese setting? Because other than that it looks heavily focused on proper psychological chaos. I think we’ve got to give developers some form of freedom if we want to see this series advance!

    RightHandOfIkaros, (edited )

    IMO, hit stop in the combat. Also, the camera perspective puts too much emphasis on combat.

    At its core, the peak way to play Silent Hill was to engage in combat as little as possible. This makes sense both in lore and for the player of the game:

    • In the game lore, protagonists in Silent Hill are “Everymen.” Just an average person. Average people do not generally have combat experience or training, and thus an average person put into a Silent Hill scenario, will more likely want to run away than engage in combat with a weapon they are not familiar with. They may be so unaccustomed to combat with a weapon they may injure themselves or waste all the bullets or break the weapon due to lack of training in combat.
    • For the player, combat felt bad, and generally posed more risk than reward (trade potentially losing a lot of health in a fight just to not have to walk around the enemy) as in Silent Hill, killing enemies doesn’t reward the player with anything other than having one less enemy to avoid. They don’t drop health or items.

    Additionally, Silent Hill has generally focused on people with some sort of dark past, with the exception of the 1st, 3rd, and 4th game. The 3rd game’s original plot apparently did give the protagonist a dark past, but Konami felt it would have been too much and thus changed the plot significantly. Some elements of the original plot still remain, but are reworked into the new, different plot in the game currently.

    SH2 remake, and in fact Homecoming and Downpour fall victim to this overemphasis on combat, and it is primarily the fault of the over the shoulder camera. The combat feels good and fun, and thus it makes the player want to do it more. This resulted in more sales because the mainstream audience seems to only like playing one kind of game. Unfortunately, it also resulted in the IP losing its identity.

    The story looks fine, but calling it a Silent Hill game when it gives no indication of connecting to the town of Silent Hill is concerning. Every Silent Hill game previously connected to the actual town in some way. If f doesn’t do this, then nothing separates it from being a generic horror game with the Silent Hill name slapped on top.

    memo,
    @memo@feddit.it avatar

    I’ll try to reply to points highlighted by the both of you, to try and play devil’s advocate for a bit:

    • I really don’t think the combat looks like anything we’ve seen from Resident Evil. Honestly, I don’t even know if there’s gonna be a gun in the game, judging from the trailers.
    • The main character clearly looks like an inept at handling weapons too, like the old games. We don’t really know how much damage we take or how easy the combat is, but it’s obvious they couldn’t come out in 2025 with a combat system as stiff, clunky and annoying as the one featured in the first trilogy. Many games in the last decade have shown that you can have a combat system that feels fluid but also have it so that you may want to not fight, for one reason or another (If I recall correctly, weapons do break in the game after a certain amount of use - that’s surely a deterrent from using them).
    • There’s a difficulty setting at the start of the game, so I’m sure you can just crank it up to hard if you want to have a though survival horror experience.
    • We have no way of knowing how they’ll connect the whole situation to the town of Silent Hill, that’s true. I’m honestly not disturbed by this as I never felt the physicalness of buildings and road to be the important factor. For all we know, Silent Hill is a catalyst that connects people living through particular distressing emotions to a horrorific underworld - who says it cannot happen in another part of the globe?

    .

    Additionally, Silent Hill has generally focused on people with some sort of dark past, with the exception of the 1st, 3rd, and 4th game.

    I… I don’t think this counts as a very strong argument if you read the sentence a couple of times. The 3rd entry is, in its actual form, beloved by many fans of the original trilogy.

    I don’t know peeps, I understand the sentiment of wanting a good game but we should genuinely just wait and try out the game if we’re interested. They can’t simply make the same game over and over, because that’d be even worse. It’s like with music artists, you know? Bob Dylan was shunned by many for “going electric”, yet those albums are now considered absolute classics. I’m not trying to say Konami has the same artistic foresight of Dylan, but we should at least try to cut them some slack and hold our opinions until after the game has come out and we’ve been able to try it out :)

    RightHandOfIkaros,

    Respectfully, as a Silent Hill fan, I have been “cutting Konami some slack” for 20 years. And I have been getting burned for 20 years. So please excuse me for being cynical.

    I didnt even mention The Short Message or Ascension because I didn’t feel like I even needed to bring either of them up, but just mentioning them now should be enough to illustrate my point in mentioning them at all.

    Silent Hill f was the project I was most interested in from Konami when they announced it. I am not disinterested in the game, and I will likely still play it. However, I have a lot of major reservations because of my history with Konami. I didn’t appreciate the changes made to SH2 Remake, so while the mainstream audience at it up, I didn’t even finish the game. I will see how it goes, but the more I keep seeing about the game, I keep seeing some stuff I don’t like.

    Everytime a hit lands on an enemy in the trailers, the game stops for a few frames. This better be removed or an effect that is only in the trailers. If that’s in the game and I can’t turn that off then I probably won’t keep playing it. That might seem nitpicky, but I play Silent Hill for a specific experience. I don’t play Silent Hill to get an experience I can get from Resident Evil or some other game. I am totally fine with Konami “making the same game repeatedly,” so long as story elements, levels, items, etc are different, I would be glad to have games in a series have identical gameplay between each entry. Metroid Prime 1 and 2, for example, or Half-Life and Opposing Force. Although the story, weapons, and visual assets are different, the core gameplay is identical. You are still getting the same gameplay experience in the sequel as your did in the original.

    memo,
    @memo@feddit.it avatar

    To each their own! I’m a long time fan of the original trilogy too, but I’d be very bored if they kept spinning around the same formulas. I do agree with the fact that SH2’s remake added unecessary things - but to be fair, I think the remake was just unnecessary overall, they could’ve simply spent their resources trying to reverse-engineer the original in order to bring it to modern hardware.

    Have you tried to take a look at recent horror indie games? Titles such as Tormented Souls might scratch the particular itch, if Konami fails to deliver.

    JigglySackles,

    Silent Hill is more than just psychological chaos, most any modern horror game does that much. The Japanese setting doesn’t really help, it would make it harder to adapt to the IP, but it could have been done in a way that it wouldn’t have been an issue.

    I’ll have to rewatch the trailer to give you more specific points, but it seems combat might be more prevalent than it should, veering more to the Resident Evil brand. The shifted world didn’t make much of an appearance in the trailer, but from the glimpses it seemed tame and not really all that horror-esque. It doesn’t even appear to be in or connected to the town of Silent Hill.

    Being a bigger fan of the first two games than any of the rest, i see them as the standard, the fog and mist, not being able to see everything clearly so that odd shapes and shadows mess with you is also something I am missing in the new game.

    It may be a great game. I just don’t see it as a SH game.

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