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p_kanarinac, do games w The magic of remembering—and talking about—video games
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Do you find it difficult to enjoy everything alone or just games? I don’t really get the sharing thing.

damdy, do games w A game you "didn't know it was bad 'til people told you so"?

Mine was final fantasy 12. I played that game so hard, really enjoyed it and if was released in the time of trophies I would have platinumed it. Even did the grinding for Gilgamesh to spawn for a sword or something. But I was hated at the time.

Now everyone is saying it was one of the best and I was proved right all along.

Sure the story was star wars and the main character wasn’t, but the combat system was really fun, way better than 13.

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  • mic_check_one_two,

    I hated the game at first too. But I actually gave it a replay a while back and ended up loving it. Ironically, my love of FFX was holding me back from enjoying XII. Once I replayed it with a more open mind, I thoroughly enjoyed it. There are certain things I dislike about it, sure. But that’s true for any Final Fantasy game.

    I think replaying it when I was older also helped. I didn’t have the patience for the politicking when I played it the first time. And the game’s story is very political. So I think the added maturity meant I was able to appreciate the story more.

    MalikMuaddibSoong,

    Amen, I am equally puzzled.

    Truly some of the worst FF decisions all in the same game.

    Why is the key to the postgame dungeon a piece of undifferentiated loot? Why did the game allow me to accidentally lock myself out of the postgame by selling it?

    Why is the story is a low effort clone of Star Wars?

    Why set FF12 in the world of FF:Tactics but make no reference to it?

    Why, oh why, an all-women-race of playboy bunny girls in lingerie and heels?

    That being said, programming your own teams’ AI is peak jrpg wish there was more of that. This baby got thrown out with all that dirty bath water unfortunately

    Wugger,

    Interesting I don’t think I’ve seen anyone call it the best before. I loved the shit out of ff7/9/10 and was so excited for 12 and it was one of the first big gaming letdowns I can remember. Ive still had the heart to pick it back up.

    Omegamanthethird,
    @Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world avatar

    XII remake is my third favorite after X and VIII.

    damdy,

    I’ve seen a lot of people recently give it praise. I think 4, 9, and 12 all seem to be looked back at far better than their original reception.

    Sybilvane,

    I loved it at the time too! But you’re the first other person I’ve seen praise it.

    I’ve gone back to replay it a couple of times and, yep, still love it. The story has its flaws but that’s final fantasy for you.

    Omegamanthethird,
    @Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world avatar

    I liked a lot about the original. I thought the real-time, turn-based fighting system was going to take over as the new fighting system going forward to replace the ATB as the go-to, and I was happy about it (XIII and XV would have been better for it).

    The remaster raised the game to its full potential imo. Having jobs is so much better than free-for-all. And getting rid of the Zodiac Spear disqualification treasure chests is just good on my psyche.

    redshift,

    FF12 is definitely my favorite FF. The combat system is the most interesting to me - programming your party to act how you want without spending the time of selecting combat options every single round. It’s also why I love the first Dragon Age and hated the sequels. I wish more games used that type of combat.

    SoleInvictus,

    I still like FF12, although I’ve never beaten it. I had no idea people disliked it.

    BuboScandiacus, (edited ) do games w A game you "didn't know it was bad 'til people told you so"?
    @BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz avatar

    Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood and cyberpunk 2077 (PC) not too long after release

    chameleon, do games w What's an absolutely medium quality game? Not great, incredible or terrible or any single ended extreme. Dead medium quality
    @chameleon@fedia.io avatar

    Dual nominations for Paper Mario: Sticker Star & Paper Mario: Color Splash. The only thing I really remember about them is that I played them and they left me without any feelings about them whatsoever.

    rockyracoon, do games w A game you "didn't know it was bad 'til people told you so"?

    I spent a lot of time playing Banjo Kazooie: Nuts and Bolts alone and online with friends. A lot of people I’ve talked to view it negatively and are surprised when I say it was one of my favorite 360 titles. It’s one of the main reasons I want to try out Xbox 360 emulation.

    MrScottyTay,

    I’m in the same block built boat as you. I always vehemently defend this game since finding out the general gaming public don’t like it.

    rockyracoon,

    The way I see it, more engines for us!

    Odo, do games w A game you "didn't know it was bad 'til people told you so"?

    E.T.

    Yes really. I played it all the time as a kid and didn’t think it was any more difficult or abstract than the rest of the 2600’s catalogue. Granted, we kept the manual, which made a huge difference in understanding and enjoying its bizarre logic, but still. I had no idea it was so hated until at least a decade later.

    vrighter,

    it was actually way ahead of its time, for a game. One small bug (the workaround for which was in the manual) ruined its reputation. But I genuinely think it was a good game.

    Also written in 6 weeks by one guy. Freaking impressive

    tiramichu,

    What was the bug and workaround? :)

    vrighter,

    when climbing out of the pit, it was very easy to immediately fall back down (due to the pixel-perfect collision detection).

    And here is an excerpt from the manual: “Even experienced extraterrestrials sometimes have difficulty levitating out of wells. Start to levitate E.T. by first pressing the controller button and then pushing your Joystick forward. E.T.'s neck will stretch as he rises to the top of the well (see E.T. levitating in Figure 1). Just when he reaches the top of the well and the scene changes to the planet surface (see Figure 2), STOP! Do not try to keep moving up. Instead, move your Joystick right, left, or to the bottom. Do not try to move up, or E.T. might fall back into the well.”

    tiramichu,

    Wow yeah. That must have been a really infuriating gameplay issue, no wonder players were upset with it.

    A shame the game was so rushed or I’m sure the dev would have fixed that in code.

    vrighter,

    he was forced to release it quickly to coincide with the film’s release. For comparison, it used to take a team of devs a couple of months to make a game. He had 6 weeks.

    Also, if you read the manual, this essentially never happened to you. It was easy to avoid.

    You also needed to read the manual. The game did stuff that other games at the time didn’t, for example, a contextual button. You couldn’t know what would happen unless you read the manual to learn what the icons meant. A lot of people never did and so decided that the game was bad.

    andros_rex,

    Yeah, I played it as a teenager on emulation and was pretty mystified at why it was considered so much worse than the other things available on the system. Why would people love Adventure but hate this?

    vrighter,

    i bought an original cartridge and played it on the vcs i iherited from dad

    drmoose, do games w A game you "didn't know it was bad 'til people told you so"?

    Most games that dont scale into 100+ hours. I never reach that point anyway.

    Petros, do wolnyinternet w Marginalia - Sensowna alternatywa dla wyszukiwarki Google
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    Renat, (edited ) do wolnyinternet w Marginalia - Sensowna alternatywa dla wyszukiwarki Google

    Jeszcze używam wyszukiwarki do jednej rzeczy. Nie powiem jakiej, ale od jakiegoś czasu tylko Marginalia jest pod tym względem użyteczna. Google każe mi rozwiązywać reCaptcha, a nie chcę im szkolić AI klikając w obrazki.

    https://szmer.info/pictrs/image/7955eb5e-67a5-4089-9272-14e68ce3c2e8.png

    Brylant, do games w What's an absolutely medium quality game? Not great, incredible or terrible or any single ended extreme. Dead medium quality

    Greedfall

    Coelacanth,
    @Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

    Even though Greedfall is hardly a great game I think it has too much charm to really fit here. I found it too memorable to really be a “mediocre slop” contender.

    Geth,

    The developer, Spiders, seem to be experts at creating mediocre games with very small budgets, and again they didn’t quite have the money to take it all the way with greedfall, but they did make more than a mediocre game in my opinion. For me it was memorable enough unlike others mentioned in this thread.

    Pogogunner, do games w What's an absolutely medium quality game? Not great, incredible or terrible or any single ended extreme. Dead medium quality

    Just Cause 3

    Movement was more annoying than Just Cause 2

    ICastFist,
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    I really enjoyed 3 more than 2, despite never quite getting the hang of doing hook-gliding combos. Flying a heli with missiles in 2 was the game’s “I win” button, dodging AA missiles was pretty trivial, 3 doesn’t have anything as OP

    Flamekebab, do games w What's an absolutely medium quality game? Not great, incredible or terrible or any single ended extreme. Dead medium quality
    @Flamekebab@piefed.social avatar

    Godus.

    I know lots of people hate it but taken in isolation it's okay. I found its aesthetics charming and its pace generally pretty chill. It wasn't good but it wasn't terrible. Low medium perhaps but I have comfortable memories of listening to an audiobook whilst playing it.

    Coelacanth, do games w What's an absolutely medium quality game? Not great, incredible or terrible or any single ended extreme. Dead medium quality
    @Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

    I said any Call of Duty from the past decade as answer to the original comment, and I still think that is a solid candidate. However, another game I played recently that qualifies I think is Sleeping Dogs. Perfectly cromulent 7/10 GTA clone but ultimately not pulling up any trees.

    caut_R,

    Sleeping Dogs is easily my fav GTA-esque game and I weep that there‘s no successor, to each their own

    vaguerant, do games w What's an absolutely medium quality game? Not great, incredible or terrible or any single ended extreme. Dead medium quality
    @vaguerant@fedia.io avatar

    This is a tough question because it's like asking "What's the most forgettable game you've ever played?" I can remember some of the best and worst games I've ever played, but mediocre games are explicitly not interesting.

    That said, the first one that came to mind for me was Starshot: Space Circus Fever for N64. It's just a very generic late-'90s collectathon platformer. It's hard to be mad at it, because it's not terrible or anything, there's just no reason to play it. If you've got an N64, there's Mario, Banjo, Rayman, even B- and C-tier stuff like Gex and Chameleon Twist. There's hidden gems like Space Station Silicon Valley or Rocket: Robot on Wheels.

    That last one is the only reason I played Starshot, I saw it clearanced at a used game store and was like "Oh yeah, I remember hearing this game was good," but it turned out I was thinking of Rocket. That game actually is good, while Starshot is just fine.

    P00ptart,

    It also makes people say things are mid to them. Honestly, rdr2 was that way for me because I hated the pseudo-rpg elements. But long after I put it away, I started playing actual RPGs. So I may give it another shot, but I have so many on my to-do list.

    Flamekebab,
    @Flamekebab@piefed.social avatar

    An N64 game I've never heard of before? Mark it on the calendar because that hasn't happened in many a sparrow's moon.

    burgerpocalyse, do games w Day 334 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games l've been playing

    all i can say is I hope you enjoy Starfield more than I did

    KeefChief13,

    I was thinking the same thing

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