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SacralPlexus, do gaming w What's the state of Linux gaming with Proton?

I’m pretty Linux illiterate but as I was making a new build last winter I decided to explore Linux for gaming. I ran Nobara for a few months with good luck. I mostly was playing single player or coop type games. After a couple of months I developed an issue with Nobara having problems updating (it would tell me updates were ready but they would fail to install).

After about a month of this I decided to try out Bazzite as it also had a good reputation. So far it has worked well for me with the one caveat that on the game Dune: Awakening I frequently get unexpected freezes that last 3-5 seconds before the game resumes. This game has PVP so this can be really annoying. I haven’t done any troubleshooting or even tried it on Windows to see if it’s a problem there so really idk if this is a Linux issue or not. Wasn’t worth it to me to investigate because I was losing interest in the game already.

I should note I’m not playing COD or any games running super invasive anti cheat stuff. Really the only problem I’ve had is that I haven’t figured out how to control all of my Corsair lighting/fans/AIO display in Linux so my rig isn’t as pretty as it is when I boot into Windows.

thetrekkersparky, do gaming w What's the state of Linux gaming with Proton?

I generally play single player games and have had little to no problems. Any issues I’ve had have required very little tinkering to fix and I’ve solved them all by simply searching online for the problem and finding out that its a common issue and someone has posted a step by step fix.

The biggest issue I’ve had is with baulders gate 3 multiplayer which I eventually fixed, but I can’t remember how anymore. Single player worked fine right out of the gate.

I’ve also had better luck playing older games on Linux vs Windows. Heroic Launcher also works great for anything you’ve purchased on GOG, Epic,and Amazon too.

Hond, do gaming w What's the state of Linux gaming with Proton?

Linux gaming is in a really good place and i say that as a VR and simracing player. My logitech wheel works perfectly after minuscule tinkering. With VR i have here and there some issues getting particular games running. But the vast majority of stuff just works which is pretty damn cool.

With that said Linux is still a learning process for me after a year. A lot stuff is straight up just better than on windows. Other things not so much. Audio over HDMI is flakey with my setup. It just stops working sometimes. Putting my PC to sleep and waking it up again breaks stuff regularly so i just stopped using the sleep function. Lots of other little issues pop up every other week. Sometimes it can be solved by googling for 2 minutes. Other times i needed to take hour long deepdives with the result of not beeing wiser after.

I dont regret the switch one bit. But in these kind of threads on lemmy you could easily walk away with the impression that the switch to Linux is a cakewalk. But it isnt. I was a Windows poweruser for 25 years. I never needed somebody to help me. I could fix my shit all by myself and a bit of googling. With linux a lot of stuff is familiar but for a lot of other stuff you start at square one. It can be exhausting at the beginning. But i say all that to just put you in the right mindset. If you expect a manegeable uphill battle you probably will be positively surprised how easy most of the gaming stuff is. But if you expect to just switch and everything working out without some involvement you will get frustrated sooner than later.

Bob_Robertson_IX, do gaming w What's the state of Linux gaming with Proton?

As others have mentioned, it’s not really anything I even think about any more. The other day I bought Microsoft Flight Simulator 40th Anniversary, installed it and was playing it before I even thought that I should have checked for compatibility first.

The biggest question is deciding which OS you want to install… I went with Nobara because it already had all of the dependencies needed for Steam, but it is not the only distro that comes ‘Steam ready’.

psx_crab,

I heard Mint is closest to the window experience, not sure about steam ready though, i didn’t know that is a thing i need to watch out for. i think i might try that first

andrewta,

I use mint with steam. No real issues at this point.

If you can. Get an external solid state drive and install Linus there to figure out any issues then if you screw up, you still have windows 10 as back up until you figure out all the issues. Then when you are ready wipe windows and install Linux that way

Asafum, do gaming w What's the state of Linux gaming with Proton?

As others have said it seems to be great. I made the switch to Mint a month or so ago and while I haven’t tried anything multiplayer, any game I tried on steam worked fine. I even used Lutris to get some games running that I acquired… 🦜 🏴‍☠️… and they worked as well with a little tinkering.

I was even surprised to see I could transfer an already installed game folder from my windows drive over to Linux and then set up lutris to recognize it and it worked as well! I’ve been pleasantly surprised with it so far, I’d say dual boot (using a separate drive) and test it out!

refreeze, do gaming w What's the state of Linux gaming with Proton?
@refreeze@lemmy.world avatar

It’s really good from a compatibility perspective (i.e. most games at least will run) but there are still a few performance edge cases that have more to do with Linux than proton itself. For example, ray tracing for AMD performs significantly worse than on Windows unfortunately (I get ~45 FPS for CP2077 on my 9070 XT vs ~55 FPS on Windows with the same settings). Rasterization is a different story, and some games actually outperform Windows in this area. Another area which is a little annoying is dealing with games that require extra related programs running alongside them. I run Microsoft Flight Simulator (which performs great using proton) however it is a little tedious getting all the add-on software to start inside the same proton prefix, the same story is true for dealing with mod managers in other games.

Drewmeister, do gaming w What's the state of Linux gaming with Proton?

Some things I wasn’t told ahead of time but wish I had been:

  1. Your particular gfx card might have issues with your Linux distro. Save yourself a lot of troubleshooting and research ahead of time which distros are more likely to work out of the box with your card. After I started over and switched to PopOS for Nvidia, my life has been a lot easier.
  2. There is a fork of Proton called Proton-GE made by some dude with the moniker GloriousEggroll. It includes more features than base Proton like the ability to play more cutscenes and various graphical updates. For my build, it was essentially required.
  3. Just another note. Steam is great; for everything else there’s Heroic launcher. It’ll launch Gog, Epic… The non-steam launchers. And you can choose your compatibility layer, so if you install Steam first, it’ll default to Proton.
shiroininja, do games w Is it me or does it seem like review bombing on Steam has become so much worse recently?

Good thing I don’t pay attention to reviews. Half of them are people whining about things that aren’t a problem for me.

sugar_in_your_tea,

I find them really valuable. Before buying a game, I’ll skim 10 or so reviews, both positive and negative, to find what it’s good and bad at. If the negative reviews are all stuff I don’t care about and the positive reviews excite me, I’ll probably get it. But if the negative reviews consistently mention something that’ll bother me, I’ll pass.

supersquirrel,

What? Just sort reviews by most helpful and set it to a timeframe that is relevant for you.

I make sure to rate helpful reviews or leave them myself, so there are definitely people out there trying to help make the actually relevant, non-loweffort-meme reviews that contain illuminating information rise to the top.

mostlikelyaperson, do games w Is it me or does it seem like review bombing on Steam has become so much worse recently?

Nope, because review bombing doesn’t exist on steam. You have to own the game to review it. A customer leaving a negative review is not review bombing.

Novamdomum,
@Novamdomum@fedia.io avatar

I believe how it works is people buy the game, write the negative review and then refund it. Review bombing is not only definitely a thing but Steam have gone to great lengths to combat it, which would be odd if it was imaginary.

FigMcLargeHuge, do gaming w What's the state of Linux gaming with Proton?

Don’t see why you wouldn’t be just fine. I am playing Dune Awakening right now on my Linux machine. There’s the proton db website to help if you run into issues, but I haven’t had any so far. If I have a problem with a game, I usually force it to an older version of proton, or just fiddle with the versions and that usually fixes things.

Drives are cheap. Get a new drive, pull out the windows drive and put in the new blank drive and install linux and give it all a try. I just bought a new gaming laptop and the first thing I did before powering it up was swap out the nvme drive to a larger empty one and installed PopOs to match my desktop machine. It’s working just fine.

nocturne,
@nocturne@slrpnk.net avatar

I was unable to get past the privacy notice or Eula, I forget which to be able to play dune.

FigMcLargeHuge,

I just checked and I have Compatibility set to Proton 8.0-5. Try that and see if that makes it work for you.

AmazingAwesomator, do gaming w What's the state of Linux gaming with Proton?

it has gotten so good that i only check if there are compatibility issues if there is 3rd(4th?) party anti-cheat involved.

turbowafflz, do gaming w What's the state of Linux gaming with Proton?

Pretty close to perfect in my experience. I don’t even bother to check on protondb to see if games run before trying them anymore and I almost never find anything that doesn’t work. Off the top of my head the only things I know of that don’t work are things with really aggressive anticheat like Fortnite that intentionally detect and block players on Linux.

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RightHandOfIkaros, do games w Is it me or does it seem like review bombing on Steam has become so much worse recently?

Sometimes, the only way for players to get the developer’s attention is by doing something drastic like that. Not always, but many times. Because developers and publishers think Steam Review Scores are important for game sales (and I mean, they are, but maybe not as much as they seem to think).

Sometimes this comes from players in a different language complaining about bad translation or something.

Review Bombing, the term, is almost used to discredit when people have negative sentiment for something, and does nothing to explain why players may be doing it. Sometimes it is warranted, sometimes it isn’t. But most people are going to read that term and think “Ah, its just a bunch of whiney children,” only to later feel frustrated at the things those negative reviews were talking about.

HubertManne, do games w Is it me or does it seem like review bombing on Steam has become so much worse recently?

I honestly have never looked at the review section. I only get guides there because its practically the only place for some games

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