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ipkpjersi, do games w 70% of games that require internet get destroyed

Technically 100% do, games that require the Internet require the Internet, which means by design you’re relying on someone else hosting servers which means it may not be available, 50, 100, or even more years into the future. That’s not the case with single-player/offline-available games.

ProdigalFrog, (edited )

As the graph breaks down, some games are patched by companies to allow them to function offline or to enable self-hosted servers. Mostly its fan efforts to reverse engineer the server code, though.

The point of the stop killing games campaign is to legislate by law that going forward, developers/publishers would have to account for a way to allow the player to host a server or patch the game to run offline when they become unprofitable and are shut down.

ipkpjersi,

My point was more that games that require the Internet itself, and not just LAN-capable servers, are games that are inevitably going to disappear.

It may seem like I’m splitting hairs but what I said is technically true.

ProdigalFrog,

I understand, but I’m not really sure why you’re pointing out the exact problem that this campaign is actively trying to solve.

isekaihero, do games w 70% of games that require internet get destroyed

This is true. I’ve been grieving the loss of Isekai Demon Waifu, which shut down only a few days ago on the 19th of this month. I had been playing it over 3 years, and had unlocked most of the girls, become the #1 on my server, and had grown attached to seeing my harem girls every night when I play the game before bed. I missed the server shutdown notification and I was messed up the next day. It hit me hard.

I hope there is another harem game with succubi and monster girls. IDW had a lot of charm. The music, art style, aesthetic. Amazing monster girls. I’m going to miss seeing Ephinas, Fiadum, Hastia, Scardia, Palotti, Ymir, and all the others.

It doesn’t seem fair that we can spend years of our life, hundreds or even thousands of dollars, make a game experience part of our lives, and then one day it just goes poof and it’s all gone. Part of you vanishes in that moment. It’s like a bandaid being ripped off a wound, or a light in your life going out. Because someone else decided it cost too much to keep a server running?

They should be required to transition the game into an offline mode!

RowRowRowYourBot,

You paid this money knowing you do not have the ability to run the game. Why does the developer have the obligation to change the user agreement you signed off on when you created your account? You chose to play a game that you cannot run yourself.

isekaihero,

That’s weasel speak. Hiding behind a user agreement is a pathetic excuse for bad behavior on the part of the developer. The developer decides what is in that agreement. It can be changed at any time, and 'but you agreed to this" is a poor excuse for laziness and disrespect for the community that supported them for so many years.

Transitioning the game into an offline mode could be done with some development time spent on a final update. Take out the multiplayer stuff, let the game run offline, and put the game up for sale as an idler for like $5 or $10. It might not make much money but it lets players continue to play a game that they love. It shows that you as a developer care about your product and the customers who have supported you for so long.

steeznson,

Weasling out of things is what separates us from the animals… except the weasel of course.

TheKMAP,

That’s the point of agreements though. If you buy a game and don’t like the agreement you should be allowed to return it. If they change the agreement you should be allowed to return it. Agreements aren’t inherently a bad thing. There just hasn’t been enough backlash about bad agreements or the business models they create.

Regrettable_incident,
@Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world avatar

They should be required to transition the game into an offline mode!

Seems to me like this would be good business sense too. Wouldn’t people be more likely to buy their next online game if you felt there was a good chance you could keep playing it after a few years? Instead they’re going to get a reputation for making products with a short shelf life.

slaneesh_is_right,

I can’t tell if this is satire or not.

Olgratin_Magmatoe,

Given the username I’d guess not. Good username btw

MousePotatoDoesStuff,
@MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world avatar

Depends on whether they have heard of Josh Strife Hayes.

AlexisFR,
@AlexisFR@jlai.lu avatar

Can’t you use that money to see a therapist now?

creamlike504, (edited ) do games w 70% of games that require internet get destroyed

https://jlai.lu/pictrs/image/d350b95c-d7f5-430e-ada6-1c7298cfda94.jpeg

Dead games, which means no one on Earth can currently play the game. It’s not possible…

At-risk games, which means these games are currently working, but they’re designed in such a way that the second the publisher ends support, they will become dead games without some sort of intervention…

Dev Preserved, which means the game would have died, but the publisher or developer implemented some sort of endof life plan, so now the game is safe…

Fan Preserved, where the publisher did nothing or practically nothing to save the game, but fans managed to either hack it to remove dependencies or reverse engineer a server emulator so that the game was saved in spite of the publisher actions.

MrScottyTay,

Out of curiosity what are the 16 dev preserved ones?

creamlike504,
sugar_in_your_tea,

Why doesn’t that graph show at risk games?

creamlike504,

https://jlai.lu/pictrs/image/b8409aa6-6113-43b5-8955-5f5fe6c9b3b4.png

These are the total numbers and includes the at-risk games. Which may not be helpful to some, since the fate of those games is unknown.

NotASharkInAManSuit, do games w 70% of games that require internet get destroyed

I still miss GhostX.

Blackmist, do games w 70% of games that require internet get destroyed

If your game requires a server for single player content, I ain’t buying it.

I’m not paying full price and getting a rental.

Korhaka,

Only exception to this is if I can run the server myself. Even multiplayer games I feel somewhat cautious about now.

killeronthecorner,
@killeronthecorner@lemmy.world avatar

Me building mega castles on my one man modded Rust server.

Surp,

V rising kind of does this but a single player game is just called a server it’s on your local machine though.

Evotech,

And I kind of hate that

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

It shouldn’t require a server that I can’t control for multiplayer either.

BroBot9000, do games w Tainted Grail: The Fall of Avalon - Official Release Trailer
@BroBot9000@lemmy.world avatar

The demo is pretty solid and I’m going to give it a shot once it starts going on sale and hopefully gets past the launch glitches and received a few patches.

No game is worth it on day one anyways, so many greedy publishers putting out unfinished slop and making the devs fix it post release.

arakhis_,
@arakhis_@feddit.org avatar

I’m eager to find energy and test the demo. its already istalled too, haha

and the demo in 2025 is such a sad reality, golden age was so nice… literally all games always had demos :'(

slaacaa, do games w The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt — 10th Anniversary Trailer

Such an amazing game. I’m not into RPGs but somehow got convinced to play this.

I don’t understand how I even had the energy to play 100+ hrs next to work. I often played until 2 am on weekdays, or woke up earlier to play.

I understand the complaints of the gameplay or controls, but the story and the characters are what makes this game special. It’s a journey I will never forget, some memories and feelings from it will stay with me forever

commander,

The controls I thought were really easy but I played on PC so I could swing the mouse around and I don’t need to looks at the keyboard to hit almost any key. So for me I thought it was real easy to control contrary to what I read online

Then I played on a console and then I understood the hate for Witcher 3 controls. I remember it feeling very heavy. Weird to control the camera and Geralt

FenrirIII,
@FenrirIII@lemmy.world avatar

Have you read the books? Half the fun is spotting all the divergent plots

ssfckdt, do games w 70% of games that require internet get destroyed

There ought to be a law…

Ulrich, do games w 70% of games that require internet get destroyed
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That’s why the first thing I do when I buy a new game is to turn off the internet and boot the game. If it doesn’t boot or work offline, I refund it. And I just don’t buy games that have Denuvo.

barnaclebutt, do games w 70% of games that require internet get destroyed

This is why it is so important to find exploits for current gen consoles. It is not about piracy, it is about preservation. You don’t own a game that requires the internet, or a fucking download code Nintendo.

thisisnotmyhat,

A PS3 with Evilnat custom firmware is truly a thing of beauty. A great era for videogame creativity and experimentation, when F2P was just a twinkle in Tim Sweeney’s eye.

samus12345,

It is not about piracy, it is about preservation.

https://i.imgflip.com/9uzcnr.jpg

grrgyle,

Nice. Did you make this?

samus12345,

Slapped it together real fast, yup.

grrgyle,

Nice.

Evotech,

First original content on lemmy

rabber, do games w 70% of games that require internet get destroyed

that’s why i dont buy digital games on nintendo. one day the service ends and it’s gone forever.

pdqcp,

I’m not buying Nintendo at all, so many shitty policies from that camp

rabber,

i buy physical because i genuinely think nintendo is one of the last good game devs remaining. but switch 2 is just download cards. i will not be purchasing it.

RedStrider,
@RedStrider@lemmy.world avatar

i think that’s a myth, switch 2 will have real games.

Owlboi,

“one of the last good game devs” brother there has been so much drama with nintendo being a god awful company the past year ALONE.

topherp,

Their games are genuinely fun though, and they work offline

Owlboi,

you can say that about a lot of games and their devs. tons of great indie games out there.

topherp,

Can’t argue with that!

gonzo-rand19,

Not in 10+ years when you can't download the rest of the game from the servers because they don't put the whole game on the cartridge anymore. Not to mention patches and DLC aren't on the cartridge either.

topherp,

They do put the full game on the cartridges, for example I can play TOTK on a new switch with just the cartridge without ever going online.

www.gamespot.com/gallery/…/2900-6508/

gonzo-rand19,

Did you read this article? It literally says this:

As you can see, the number of Switch 2 titles not on Game-Key Cards is very slim.

The only games that will be fully available on the cartridge are the ones explicitly singled out. There are 10. How is that significant?

topherp,

The article literally says

All of Nintendo’s first-party Switch 2 games have the full game on the Game Card. That includes the $80 launch title Mario Kart World.

We were talking about Nintendo as a game dev.

rabber,

But just judging by quality of games they are still the best

Owlboi,

have you seen any of their pokemon releases the past years? its actually embarassing how bad the games are in terms of quality and polish, for a game that is the biggest IP in the world.

rabber,

Nintendo has not developed those. Blame gamefreak.

Check out the new pokemon snap which isn’t that dev. It is legit a 9/10 game. I play it a ton.

Owlboi,

they do own the pokemon IP though, so even though they dont develop the game, i’d argue its still their fault if the game turns out ass. its time they put some stress on gamefreak to do better.

rabber,

Oh yeah fuck nintendo for real. But as long as they keep making quality games I’ll keep coming back, unfortunately

Owlboi,

it do be like that. cant stop a gamer from enjoying good game.

Sabin10,

It’s already happening on other platforms. Doom dark ages only has something like 28 megabytes on the disc.

DrSteveBrule,

I’m not even aware of any ps3/xbox360 games that are fully contained on discord. Maybe Orange Box?

ProdigalFrog,

AFAIK, most PS3 (and even PS4) / Xbox 360 games will play and function with just the disc, an internet connection will just let them download updates to the game.

It was PS5 and Xbox One where the discs became glorified physical download codes, and did not actually contain the entire game.

leave_it_blank,

That’s why I only buy games on GOG. After purchase I archive the installer, and it’s mine forever. On console you are really fucked.

Nima, do games w Tainted Grail: The Fall of Avalon - Official Release Trailer
@Nima@leminal.space avatar

wanted to buy it, but the price increase happened before I could.

will wait for a few years, maybe.

MarcomachtKuchen, do games w Tainted Grail: The Fall of Avalon - Official Release Trailer

The visuals are soo good. Love the art direction.

CIA_chatbot, do games w Tainted Grail: The Fall of Avalon - Official Release Trailer

I bought the early access, it’s pretty fun with a bit of jank, but the jank is minimal - it’s worth a purchase I think, especially if you like elder scroll type games

CatDogL0ver, do games w The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt — 10th Anniversary Trailer

How much longer they are milking the Witcher? It should be dry by now, right?

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