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mikyopii, do games w Metroid Prime 4: Beyond – Announcement Trailer
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Was anyone else hoping for more of an evolution in gameplay? It looks like it plays exactly like Metroid Prime 2 but that game is 20 years old.

I really want this game to do well but that trailer is making me worried.

billiam0202,

Let’s face it: that trailer was just bad. We already knew MP4 was in the works; there was nothing that was shown for us to get excited for. No new enemies, no new suits, no new abilities, no new weapons. If I had to guess, I’d say the team was told to put something together for Nintendo Direct at the last minute, so they threw together footage from the intro level. It worries me that Nintendo wants to drive the hype from the existence of MP4, instead of the content of MP4.

brsrklf,

Yeah, I suspect the last minute trailer request too. I am a huge fan of the Metroid Prime trilogy (hunters doesn’t count), and that trailer did practically nothing for me.

Woo, slight remix of the space pirate theme, scanning a dead pirate, and morph balling through a conduit. And three seconds of Sylux, again, because we’re supposed to care about that character for some reason.

skulblaka,
@skulblaka@startrek.website avatar

I actually liked Hunters :c

brsrklf,

It failed completely at being a Metroid game. It’s obvious the single-player “story” was just hastily hacked together from the multiplayer mode.

Maps were linear, without any kind of secrets or exploration. They were mostly boring corridors between multiplayer arenas for fights against bots.

The only abilities were different coloured guns, and while the MP trilogy gives the four beams specific properties to interact with the environment, I can’t remember what most Hunters guns were supposed to do beside opening corresponding doors.

There were three boring and mostly static bosses in the whole game, two of them copy pasted once to make it last a bit longer.

I don’t even think its controls or arena map design felt like Metroid Prime. The very limited Metroid Prime 2 multiplayer felt more like “competitive Metroid Prime”. It was more fun to me anyway, not that I’d buy a Metroid game for multiplayer.

skulblaka,
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I think this is all fair criticism. I played this game when I was 12, after all, and did mostly play the multiplayer after a single run through of the story.

Also important to note that I hadn’t actually played the mainline Prime games yet at that time, that probably had a lot to do with it.

jose1324,

Hunters counts 😭

brsrklf, (edited )

I have a personal beef with that game :)

I am sure there are people with good memories of it as an arena shooter, but I had little interest in that. And as a Metroid, it sucked (…sorry)

I remember trying the First Hunt demo, that was a demo cartridge from the beginning of the DS and was supposed to be a short teaser for what Hunters would be. Back then I thought, yeah, with a game around it, it could be great.

Turns out the actual Hunters was absolutely nothing like that, and focused only on multiplayer. The only reason they tacked a half-assed single-player mode on it is so it could be sold to people who wanted an actual Metroid game. I’d respect the game more if they didn’t try to sell it as more than it really was.

Tikiporch,

Your guess is very generous.

OpenPassageways,

This late in the Switch’s lifecycle, I’d argue that the existence of a new game as big as a Prime sequel is good to remind people of. Haven’t touched my Switch in a while, but will likely be picking it up again for Zelda and Prime.

fpslem,

With a 2025 release, is may not even come out for Switch, it may release on Switch 2/successor.

emb,

Yeah, somewhat agree.

It’s great just to see it exist. And not every game needs to reinvent the wheel, especially when the series hasn’t had a game in 15 years.

But by the end of it, I was kinda left wanting some new hook.

Sylux showing up was a cool moment though. I didn’t expect them to honor that tease from Prime 3, and I appreciate it.

Carighan,
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It’s great just to see it exist. And not every game needs to reinvent the wheel, especially when the series hasn’t had a game in 15 years.

Plus it’s a MetroidVania. Well, kinda the MetroidVania, or half of it. Trying too much with it would feel weird IMO because I’d want the two grandfathers to focus more on the central tenets, not some inventive genre-spinoffs.

catalyst,
@catalyst@lemmy.world avatar

In retrospect yeah. I was very excited just to see a trailer at all. After sitting with it for a while I’m kinda like, that’s it? To me it looks exactly like the recent Metroid Prime remaster (which to be fair I did really like).

I wonder if the reveal of the big baddie was intended to carry more weight than it ultimately did.

Still amped for this game anyway.

brsrklf,

The reveal wasn’t a complete surprise though.

It was hinted that guy would return in MP3’s ending, and apparently in Federation Force too (I haven’t played that one, but of course the reveal has been floating around).

Sure, it was still kind of hidden, but for those who recognized him at all, chances are they’d knew that too.

The trailer certainly failed at making his apparition exciting in any case.

petrol_sniff_king,

The trailer certainly failed at making his apparition exciting in any case.

I… completely disagree, but you know, whatever.

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

My personal view is that I rather have more traditional gameplay than upgrade trees and whatnot.

OpenPassageways,

They did great with Metroid Dread, putting a new spin on an old classic.

I have some faith that they won’t just be rehashing an old formula and that this “Beyond” aspect will have some gameplay twists.

This trailer seems meant to reassure those of us who have been waiting decades for a true successor to Prime that “yes, in fact this is it”.

I expect we will see more trailers as it gets closer, teasing some of the new story and gameplay innovations once they are more polished.

doggle,

I’m cautiously optimistic, but prime is made by a completely different developer than dread so there’s no guarantees, unfortunately

RabbitMix,

yeah this was one of my most anticipated games, until I saw this trailer and noticed the gameplay looks completely unchanged, now all my interest has disappeared.

Grass, do gaming w Hi-Rez CEO Claims Valve Is Overpowered | Cold Take (11:38)

unlike nearly every other company in existence in any industry, they actually earned their position. It would be nice if they gave a bigger cut to devs, sure, but literally nothing is stopping devs from going on multiple platforms. I am also more forgiving of that due to their contributions to linux gaming, especially now that windows is continuing to go bonkers even after they reached the point that I could no longer tolerate it.

I only buy off steam, gog, and itch.io for some indie stuff as the rest are a terrible experience. And there’s the other part, other platforms need to be good for anyone to want to use them, because nobody will leave steam for a worse platform unless gabe dies and the supposed fuckery prevention plan fails and they go corporate and get an EA approved ceo. Even then it would likely be a slow burn like twitter and reddit. gog and itch have the minimalist store covered so even that is a hurdle. Maybe epic execs can pull themselves up by their bootstraps and figure out how not to suck, then people might use them for more than just hoarding free games they will likely never play.

pelotron,
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Remember how it took several years for EA to figure out how to let you put more than one item in your shopping cart? LOL

Grass,

I only remember the ea desktop app bugging out and having a terrible time trying to play with friends in multiplayer games

Lipriv30,

Check out zoom games.

Grass,

unless you mean zoom the chat with your coworkers thing, I can’t find it.

Lipriv30,

I’m confused about what you’re saying. I think you want this: https://www.zoom-platform.com/

Grass,

even if I search ‘zoom platform’ its like the 7th result after zoom the video conferencing software. just the sad state of the internet these days. anyway I found it now and I’ll check it out after work.

danc4498, do games w Metroid Prime 4: Beyond – Announcement Trailer

Some serious halo vibes. Are all the prime games like that?

bjoern_tantau,
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Visually maybe but not gameplay wise. They are very much Metroidvanias (that genre isn’t called that by chance) where you collect gear to open up the maps more and more and shoot aliens on the way.

I really loved Prime 3 on the Wii. One of the few shooters that played well on there. I got the trilogy when that was ported but got stuck somewhere in the first game. Was too proud to look up a walkthrough.

morphballganon,

Halo is more “figuring out how to defeat this room of enemies IS the puzzle” whereas Metroid’s puzzles are platforming and figuring out how to apply this new item to the areas you’ve already visited, and there just happen to also be enemies to fight.

danc4498,

This trailer definitely looked more halo then.

catloaf,

Probably because looking around a room doesn’t make a good trailer.

Magical_Spark, do games w Ace Attorney Investigations Collection - Reveal Trailer
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They actually went and made an official english version for Investigations 2. Neat.

I think that with that, every Ace Attorney game is now playable outside Japan.

Cadeillac,
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I’m so excited. Somehow I ended up starting with Miles Edgeworth and fell in love, but I didn’t finish it. Reading makes me sleepy. Maybe I’ll try to finish the first collection while I wait

VaultBoyNewVegas,

Would be nice to see a new entry. I’ve been dying to see Apollo learn the truth about Trucy since finishing the second Apollo game.

Katana314,

I hate to say this, but I doubt that will ever happen.

It’s the ‘Kingdom Hearts’ issue. When you build on a plot thread across multiple games, you devalue a number of entries as a result. People want the modern convenience and superior design of recent releases, but also don’t want to be left out of central information. It’s why it’s hard to get people into the Trails series. To Ace Attorney’s credit, something they’ve done right in their games is avoid spoiling the central culprit of past games in future ones, even going so far as to only reference vague turnouts of past cases.

It really, really doesn’t help that a large number of people consider AJ:AA to be one of the least satisfying games in the series (in part only because they almost all hit a high bar). So if anyone were to skip a game, that might be it.

Katana314, do games w Ace Attorney Investigations Collection - Reveal Trailer

There’s going to be a bunch of confusion abound in fan discussions, as each of the characters appearing in this game get different names from the fan translation.

Thcdenton, do gaming w Hi-Rez CEO Claims Valve Is Overpowered | Cold Take (11:38)
@Thcdenton@lemmy.world avatar

Bruh Hi Rez is one of the scummiest game companies around. Dgaf what this goober thinks.

DebatableRaccoon,

And as Frost points out, he’s a massive hypocrite.

Carighan,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah that’s the point of the video.

He’s not wrong, Valve does have a lot of power over the PC gaming market. Worryingly so. But Hi-Rez of all possible asshole companies with an asshole boss should be very very quiet about such subjects.

JackGreenEarth,
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A broken clock is right twice a day

forrgott,

I’m still not gonna check a broken clock for the time, so what’s your point?

Carighan, do games w Metroid Prime 4: Beyond – Announcement Trailer
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Quite odd that this is supposed to come to Switch just about when the next console will probably release. I wonder whether this will be the switchover (ha!) title akin to Twilight Princess or Breath of the Wild.

Voytrekk,
@Voytrekk@lemmy.world avatar

No doubt it will come to both consoles. I just wonder what upgrades there will be on the new console.

VindictiveJudge,
@VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world avatar

I’m guessing a single release, and the game being used to show off the backwards compatibility features of the next system. Probably the usual 800p-900p 30fps on Switch and something higher on Switch 2.

timo_timboo_,

30fps would be a joke on the normal switch. All the Metroid Prime games are running at 60, even the MP Remaster. I’d be surprised if 4 would run at 30.

Were at the end of the generation, this game has been in development for years. If there’s a time where the devs really know how to use the hardware to its full potential, it’s now.

NewNewAccount, do games w Metroid Prime 4: Beyond – Announcement Trailer

Besides the low resolution, those don’t look like Switch graphics to me.

VindictiveJudge,
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Devs tend to go with simplified or cartoony graphics for legibility on the small integrated screen, but that’s just an art style choice. Doesn’t look too far off from Xenoblade 3, especially given polygons will be saved by not having to render a mile out. Or consider that Doom 2016 runs decently on the Switch.

llii,

I thought that too. But this is the end of the consoles life and devs now know every trick. Also the areas in the trailer are pretty limited, so it’s a bit less taxing than an open world game for example.

thorbot, do games w Metroid Prime 4: Beyond – Announcement Trailer

Meh.

Num10ck, do games w Donkey Kong Country Returns HD – Announcement Trailer

i love how the Donkey part of his name was a mistranslation of Stubborn from Japanese.

technomad, do games w Donkey Kong Country Returns HD – Announcement Trailer

This is something that should’ve been backwards compatible, not re-released

hasnt_seen_goonies,

What do you mean? It has never been playable on the switch before.

n3m37h,

This is a game from an older platform, it should be able to play THAT version instead of paying $70 to have it ported to the switch

RedIce25,

Well it was backwards compatible on the Wii U

But yeah there should be a better system for being able to play games you own on your current hardware.

callouscomic,

It’s called PC gaming.

callouscomic, do games w Donkey Kong Country Returns HD – Announcement Trailer

Donkey Kong Country

Donkey Kong Country Returns

Donkey Kong Country Returns HD

Donkey Kong Country Returns HD Re-Barreled

Donkey Kong Country Returns HD Re-Barreled: Bananas Edition

callouscomic, do games w Mario & Luigi: Brothership – Announcement Trailer

They’re trying to ship Mario and Luigi? Wow, what a pride month.

RedIce25, do games w Mario & Luigi: Brothership – Announcement Trailer

Genuinely excited about a new entry in the Mario & Luigi series. I thought it would be dead an buried with AlphaDream’s bankruptcy. The animations look so good!

Mandy, do gaming w Hi-Rez CEO Claims Valve Is Overpowered | Cold Take (11:38)
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