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Fiivemacs, do gaming w What's The Point Of Hard Games, Anyway? [Game Maker's Toolkit, 12:22]

some people live the challenge in games.

some people enjoy cozy games just to have fun

both are absolutely good and correct in their own light.

jonathan7luke,

As someone who likes the difficulty of Hollow Knight and Silksong (despite being pretty bad at the game), I think the best point in the video is that it would be really nice to give the player options. I would still play on the hard setting, but there are friends I have who would love exploring the map and seeing all the amazing art, but I can’t recommend the game to them because I know they’d be super frustrated within an hour or two.

FlihpFlorp,

Dead cells has something called assist mode. Doesn’t disable achievements or anything. Personally I use it as a second chance, the only setting I’ve touched is lives. Normally in the game you die, get sent back the start. With assist mode you can respawn (either at the level start or door you crossed). I usually have it on one life extra to avoid the “that was so bullshit” deaths but still keep death an actual consequence

It also has some stuff like bigger parry windows, lower enemy health and damage.

IMO it’s great because people can make the game as causal and forgiving as you want

Segab,

Those are great because they don’t change the nature of the game. You just adjust the difficulty of the self-imposed challenge. It’s still essentially the same experience. If you ruin the game for yourself by setting it too easy that’s on you.

When people say stuff like “I just want to explore Elden Ring”, that’s like watching behind-the-scenes content or looking at a concept art book of a movie without watching the movie. It can be enjoyable but it’s not a complete experience, you’re missing the original context entirely. I wish people realized that.

FlihpFlorp,

I agree with you in that people are missing out but I’m of the mind that if that’s how they want to play the game, let them. Back to dead cells, there’s also a mechanic called aspects where the game will warn you that achievements are disabled and it may make the game too easy (maybe idr if actually tells you or just implies it). So they partially or completly remove challenge. But some people don’t want to challenge themselves they just want to nuke rooms. And I’ve done that few times and being an unstoppable force of nature via abilities can be fun

Another example is settlements with my buddy in no man’s sky. Yes he’s missing out on game content such as all building and timers wand watching the settlement grow. But he just doesn’t find that fun but rather building intricate bases and structures

Where you say people can ruin the challenge by making it too easy 1000% agree. In dead cells nothings changing me from setting that one extra life I get, to unlimited, effectively bashing my head against a level or boss till I clear, leaving death with no consequence and as such, making it so I don’t have to git gud. My comfort zone is difficult, but a little room for error

As for the part of easy mode or just exploring is like behind the scenes content or art books, I’m gonna have to disagree. Maybe I’m taking that to literally or missing something but I’d consider those supplemental to the original media. Like I don’t need to see a behind the scenes video to enjoy Skyrim, maybe I’ll pay more active attention to level design or how things are place to draw attention. But I can still fully enjoy the city of Whiterun without knowing the city was designed to route you through the shopping district, through the temple and up the castle.

I see it more as a different approach or focus. People who value exploration want that to be the focus rather than having a super tough fight. Some people want both, where that super tough fight is part of the journey see what’s across that clearing over there

TLDR, it’s about finding that sweet spot between challenging and comfortable people ARE missing content but it’s a trade off for what they find enjoyable

Edit: this kinda turned into a rant, hopefully it makes sense

BuboScandiacus, do games w [Lord Frogmire] The Switch 2 is EVIL and I'm Tired of Pretending It's Not
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Legends ZA isn’t that expensive. It costs the equivalent of 69€ or $81 in the high VAT country I live in for the switch 2 version.

caseofthematts,

I assume they’re talking about the DLC as well. All together, the game + DLC over here is $140. I assume it’s closer to $120 for America, but haven’t done the conversions.

aislopmukbang,

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  • caseofthematts,

    Wow our dollar is shit. Not certain where the $120+ is coming from, then. But it is clickbait, so I suppose that’s the point.

    hal_5700X,

    $20 for online for Ranked Battles. The reward for them are Mega Evolve Pokemon. If you want them you need online and that’s $20.

    aislopmukbang,

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  • hal_5700X,

    Is that really fair to add?

    Yes. We are talking about Pokemon. You know “You gotta catch em all!!” series. You need online to do that.

    missingno,
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    Then you should be consistent and count the cost of PSN and XBL the same way.

    hal_5700X,

    Okay, but we are talking Nintendo.

    missingno,
    @missingno@fedia.io avatar

    It seems a little disingenuous to single them out this way, especially when the competitors you're strangely silent on are more expensive.

    hal_5700X,

    Man, they really got you by the childhood.

    missingno,
    @missingno@fedia.io avatar

    Why do you only single out Nintendo for something that Sony and Microsoft charge even more for?

    BreakerSwitch,

    Probably because neither Sony nor Microsoft are locking single player content behind their online subscriptions. Not to mention you’re strawmanning really hard right now. Those two do it. In PC circles you’ll hear it bashed all the time. Meanwhile, Nintendo is doing it worse than anyone else because they’re deliberately locking single player content behind a subscription, not just here but also for any of their classic library, which just isn’t available for sale. Meanwhile, I could go buy a digital copy of an original xbox game on the latest xbox and it’ll just play and if I owned a digital copy on a previous console it’s transferable.

    Stop it. The things you’re arguing aren’t relevant and even if they were, Nintendo is STILL the worst offender.

    missingno,
    @missingno@fedia.io avatar

    It's not at all uncommon for games with an online component to have elements you need to play online to access. That's been a part of Pokemon since the series first added online play. Hell, even before that, Pokemon was conceived from the beginning to be a social game, built around the Game Boy's Link Cable if you want to see and do everything. It's never been exclusively singleplayer.

    All I'm saying is that if you count online play as though it was part of a game's cost, you should be doing the same thing for games on other platforms too. You can't selectively pretend it only counts here.

    ampersandrew,
    @ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

    I think these online subscriptions are proving to be a major factor in why there’s been a migration of audiences from consoles to PC. People are seemingly running the long-term calculus in their heads and realizing PC is cheaper at a certain threshold.

    BuboScandiacus,
    @BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz avatar

    Wtf

    I live in europe, in the country with the second highest VAT in the world and it’s still cheaper by ~20 USD

    BuboScandiacus,
    @BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz avatar

    Isn’t that a DLC ? Bonus content for a bonus price.

    Passerby6497,

    Who doesn’t love day one Should-Have-Been-In-The-Base-Game DLC?

    Complete game, bonus money

    BuboScandiacus,
    @BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz avatar

    I mean, we just saw two pikachu forms, nothing about what is in the dlc

    psx_crab, do gaming w Alabaster Dawn demo trailer extended

    This remind me that i haven’t played crosscode and it’s been forever in my wishlist now.

    Berin, do gaming w Alabaster Dawn demo trailer extended
    @Berin@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    Had the chance to play the demo at gamescom and talk to the devs. the game is both really beautiful and fun, really looking forward to it!

    Treczoks, do games w American Truck Simulator/ Euro Truck Sim coming to consoles

    American Truck Simulator? Why? Desert Bus already exists.

    Hadriscus, do games w Bubsy in: The Purrfect Collection Release Date Trailer

    I watch too much Joueur du Grenier to fall into this trap

    gheesh, do games w American Truck Simulator/ Euro Truck Sim coming to consoles

    Actually it’s been on consoles since the Steam Deck launch. Works beautifully 👍

    B0NK3RS, do games w American Truck Simulator/ Euro Truck Sim coming to consoles
    @B0NK3RS@lemmy.world avatar

    Looking forward to this as it should be a great quick resume game. Nice and chill just jumping in/out for long deliveries :)

    voytrekk, do games w American Truck Simulator/ Euro Truck Sim coming to consoles

    Not too surprised. They have really improved their controller support over the last few years. I am able to play the game without issue with my HTPC using a controller.

    CaptDust, do games w American Truck Simulator/ Euro Truck Sim coming to consoles

    You’ll have to buy the DLC, no doubt. I could imagine them bundling an extra state or two for the release though, perhaps the whole revamped west coast

    IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds, do games w Hell Let Loose: Vietnam | Reveal Trailer

    can you play as the Vietcong and protect yourself from colonial imperialists?

    Microw,
    @Microw@piefed.zip avatar

    HLL let's you play both sides, so I expect this to also do

    NuXCOM_90Percent, do games w Hell Let Loose: Vietnam | Reveal Trailer

    I always preferred the HLL model of sweaty milsim over Squad but…

    A decent number of games have tried (US-)Vietnam over the years and it just doesn’t work. Because people think of the Vietcong versus GIs in jungles or ambushes in towns and along the river. And… the problem with that is it was a ridiculously asymmetrical fight. Like, yes, some troops did have AKs but mostly they were using WW2 era weaponry and maybe SKSes And firing precision shots through a jungle was a whole thing.

    It was incredibly rare that these were standing fights. They were bloody ambushes that either ended in slaughter or… kind of just wandering away. And while that could be REALLY REALLY interesting from a gameplay standpoint it also breaks the milsim model of “every ticket matters”

    As for those standing fights? They really weren’t that different than any other cold war conflict except that the ridgeline might be a wall of jungle.

    Also… look, playing HLL pretty much guarantees you are dealing with, at best, rampant racism because “They were racist back then”. As someone who has tried to find some fun shooters over the years… going to Vietnam IMMEDIATELY reminds everyone that it is still perfectly okay to be mark wahlberg levels of racist towards Asian people. The number of videos on games like Rising Storm that just have random “ha ha, spawn at ching chong” from even “respected” youtubers is just infuriating.

    So… not really happy this exists

    Hubi,
    @Hubi@feddit.org avatar

    Have you actually played Rising Storm 2: Vietnam? I thought the setting worked decently well there. And I really didn’t encounter any racism aside from popular lines like “Welcome to the ricefields mfer”. It still has a couple of populated servers going even though it’s kinda outdated compared to HLL or Squad 44.

    NuXCOM_90Percent,

    Yes, I have. RSV is mostly corridors outside of a few maps that try to represent a trenchline. It sort of works because spawns are fast and tickets are plentiful but it is still mostly just a day at the Metro in BF3+. Once you start making tickets count more, that starts being a lot less viable.

    And yes, I experienced a LOT of anti-Asian hate while playing. Understand that some of us have different levels of tolerance for that than others (which was kinda my point on why this is gonna be extra bad).

    AlexisFR,
    @AlexisFR@jlai.lu avatar

    My dude, most of the biggest battles of both Vietnam wars were against the standing army of North Vietnam (PAVN), which was a proper army, not just against the VC that were irregular insurgents attacking the South.

    somerandomperson, do games w Bubsy in: The Purrfect Collection Release Date Trailer

    “What could possibly go wrong?” -Bubsy, idk when

    Agent_Karyo, (edited ) do games w Bubsy in: The Purrfect Collection Release Date Trailer
    @Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world avatar

    Played the original (but Win95) release as a kid in the 90s.

    Exploration was a huge part of the maps. I remember constantly getting stuck and not being able to progress forward.

    tanisnikana, do games w Bubsy in: The Purrfect Collection Release Date Trailer

    Bubsy 3D? I can’t wait! My wife says I should play it without any spoilers.

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