Probably gamers put him in office in the first place. Steve Bannon capitalized on Gamergate and started latching on to it to recruit young white male gamers to the far right. Then these GamerGate proponents became manosphere followers.
This article about a gaming console was posted in a gaming community and you’re complaining that the term “gamers” is being used too much? Which term would you prefer, game enthusiasts?
The company has a price for the product, importers import the product at that price (sometimes the importer will also be the manufacturer, but that doesn’t actually make a difference as far as the calculation is concerned), then some official shows up and demands an import tariff, the important pays the tariff.
The shelf price is calculated as the total cost to the importer + a profit margin + sales tax. The tariff just gets lumped into the cost for the importer. Sales tax doesn’t make a distinction about how the price is arrived at.
Yes, technically correct and I am not disputing your points.
But, we all know the cost of the tariff the local importer will need to pay the local government will be passed on to local consumers.
My distinction and argument is if the government said “we will increase taxes on all products at your local grocery store by 145℅” people would flip. But when the wording become we will tariff “other countries” people forget who actually pays that tariff.
I don’t even want to imagine what is going to be the price for it here in Brazil. After the ps4 launched for nearly $2000 I haven’t even looked at any console retail prices here again.
Yeah I didn’t wanna pay that for a PS5. And the PS5 GPU alone is likely 5 times more power then what’s rumored to be in the switch 2… no way I’m paying that for a switch.
I wasn’t going to get one even if it was £20, but how? Trump set the tariffs. Obviously it’s going to cost a shitload more if there is a 145% tariff in the US.
I will buy a Switch 2 for however much it costs and when Nintendo first party titles start costing a whole week of work plus overtime I will still buy them. I will take out a mortgage for the eventual $49,999.99 console and $4,999.99 games. I will sell individual organs directly to Nintendo for whatever they want. I will singlehandedly commit genocide with my bare hands for Nintendo. I will gladly die for Nintendo. I live to serve my angel of salvation.
No offence to folks who like Mario games, but I don’t personally feel good playing them. They have a working class protagonist who works to maintain monarchic status quo (fighting evil kingdom to defend another kingdom). Also the games encourage violence toward turtles. Not cool in my books.
Anyway, jokes aside, I’m not getting a Switch 2 anytime soon, will probably get a Steam Deck before that.
Everyone knows Mario is cool as f–k. But who knows what he’s thinking? Who knows why he crushes turtles? And why do we think about him as fondly as we think of the mystical (nonexistent?) Dr Pepper? Perchance.
Interested too see how piracy works for the switch 2. I will not buy one, as much as I enjoy Nintendo’s games I cannot stand their software experience (UI, shovelware) or their eco system…how many peripherals do you need!?
He’s 100% right. Gamers buy terrible overpriced content all the time. Basically all of my friends that play WoW bought a 90$ a mount because it has an auction house on it. That’s more than the actual game costs.
Let’s say Switch 2 emulation doesn’t get good for a few years (which is totally possible, depending on how well Nintendo locked it up). He’s saying that if it’s the only way to play NEW Mario games, people will buy it at $80. He’s right, millions will, but there are some like me who are huge Mario fans who will refuse to support such naked greed. Enough to matter to them? Probably not.
But I hope Switch 2 emulation does get to a playable state sooner rather than later.
And he’s right. Switch 2 and its $80 games will not only sell like hot cakes, it will set the standard for AAA publishers going forward. I fully expect to see $100 base games as standard before the end of the next generational cycle, and they’ll still have microtransactions and endless special editions.
I’ll admit that I wasn’t sure about it at first and it was kind of an impulse buy, but I was hooked after my first couple of runs. Great game for the Steam Deck too.
Sure. Unless you have a gaming friend group that gets interested in some new multiplayer game. Then you either buy it so you can play with them, or you don’t play with them. If this continues for multiple games, you will slowly grow distant from your friend group.
That ought to be fine… it’s like saying your friends aren’t really your friends unless you play [x y or z]… In which case, I’m moving on to play what I enjoy.
Yup. Gamers, PC, console, mobile, all want their circus to escape reality, regardless of the cost short or long term.
I mean I keep hoping that gamers would have an epiphany and push back on these anti-consumer practices but I’ve seen nothing in the past twenty years, only desperate games defending being gouged.
Haven’t had the urge to buy a Nintendo game since the GameCube. Sure, the Wii was fun at parties back in the day but that’s about it. I’ve tried the new Mario and Zelda games but they always look and feel like low effort garbage meant to snare the same crowd as “Disney adults”.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but I honestly can’t fathom calling Mario or Zelda games low effort on the developers part. It seems like a lot of time and care go into them, for the most part.
For everyone chiming in with piracy (which I support): Layden is more calling Nintendo fans “junkies” than advocating for 80$ prices. His message (even in the face of Ryan’s LSG push) has always been “first party exclusivity sells consoles”.
Won’t they, though? Even disregarding the option of piracy, while new games will be $70 or $80 or whatever at launch, they go down eventually and Steam pricing has always been better than console.
Because being able to play your existing switch games with better performance is a big part of their sales pitch for this, but people were already starting to do that with the Steam Deck. At that point the comparison for the devices would look like:
Steam Deck: Cheaper, more ergonomic, can play more games, games cost less, games aren’t locked to the console, no charge for better performance if you upgrade to new hardware, can play any game from consoles up to some ps3 through emulation
Nintendo: Better battery life, 120Hz HDR screen, has a new Mario Kart and Donkey Kong game
In every other way it would lose the comparison.
With the emulator crackdown, people don’t perceive it that way, because they don’t think of emulation as an option for the switch. (I mean, some do, but even Retro Games Corps isn’t talking about that possibility anymore because of the strikes against his YouTube channel; they’ve greatly reduced the visibility of that as an option.)
For my part, I’m leaning towards sticking Moonlight on my existing Switch and just streaming from my desktop. It’s not elegant, but you can’t beat the price.
That also! My sense is that for the switch it’s basically only limited by emulator compatibility, but for ps3 and xbox one it’s partially limited by the available cpu and gpu power. I may be mistaken about that though, I don’t own a Deck and haven’t tested this stuff myself.
It’s been a couple years since I tried PS3 and Xbox 360 emulation, but when I did it on PC was the compatibility of the emulator rather than processing power that caused most game to not be playable. It ran Katamari Forever really well, so I’m hoping I can get it running on the Steam Deck, too!
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