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simple, do games w God of War is coming to GOG

Pretty awesome that Sony is embracing DRM-free. Now if only they would port Demon’s Souls and God of War Ragnarok…

CatZoomies,
@CatZoomies@lemmy.world avatar

Sales of God of War on GOG might influence Ragnarok to come. It’d be great if Ragnarok gets ported to both Steam and GOG on release. I think Sony is very supportive, as I vaguely recall their only IP that didn’t do so well on PC was Sackboy, and it was because it didn’t hit their expected targets.

ninchuka,

I’ll be very shocked if Ragnarok doesnt come to PC eventually

dunestorm,
@dunestorm@lemmy.world avatar

Bloodborne please!

Blackmist,

That didn’t even get a PS4 Pro patch.

I don’t think any game has been as well received and simultaneously neglected as Bloodborne.

Dasnap, do games w God of War (PC) is now available on GOG
@Dasnap@lemmy.world avatar

Finally, the true release.

Get on my NAS, lad.

LunchEnjoyer,
@LunchEnjoyer@lemmy.world avatar

This is the way

impiri, do games w Fallout 4 has been released on GOG

Just in time, too. Another settlement needs our help

RaivoKulli,

I played until the guy went to that fortress and I just never went to that fortress. Guess I accidentally improved the game for me lol

FordBeeblebrox,

Goddamnit Preston I just got back home

ampersandrew, do games w God of War (PC) is now available on GOG
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

Please give us Galaxy on Linux, GOG, so I can shop with you over Steam.

aksdb,

As long as GOG doesn’t invest in Wine/Proton, Valve has still the upper hand in Linux support and therefore deserve my money more.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

They don't even need to invest in its development. They just need to integrate it as a launch option.

aksdb,

That would be nice, sure. I am just saying, it still wouldn’t give them a significantly better standing over Valve, in my eyes. Valve is currently kinda the Linux Gaming Savior. Hard to beat that unless they also start actively (!) doing something.

HKayn,
@HKayn@dormi.zone avatar

GOG is tiny compared to Valve. They simply don’t have the resources to invest in Linux R&D. Expecting them to do so is futile.

aksdb,

What does that change about what I said? I don’t expect them to. I simply stated why I prefer Steam over GOG.

vinnymac,

Surprised we haven’t seen launchers adding native support for Linux. You’d think they would want to take advantage of the millions of steam decks on the market.

Perhaps they are busy contemplating their own hardware investments, which will surely flood the market with cheap and poorly constructed knockoffs.

HKayn,
@HKayn@dormi.zone avatar

There’s little to no business incentive for other launchers to add support for an OS used only by approx. 1.7% of PC gamers.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

Less incentive, but 1.7% of a huge number of customers may still be profitable.

HKayn,
@HKayn@dormi.zone avatar

You’d be doubling your building, testing and supporting efforts for a ~1.8% increase in sales at best.

Granted, these numbers are just rough estimates based on Steam’s hardware survey, but that’s the ballpark we’re finding ourselves in.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

Nah, it doesn't just linearly double like that. If it takes 10 people to build, test, and support the launcher for Windows, it doesn't take 20 people to support Linux, since most of it is going to be the same across platforms. A 1.8% increase in sales also isn't the best prediction. On Steam, the vast majority of their players and revenue are accounted for by just a couple of the most popular games, and a lot of that is dictated by what games are allowed or successful in China. If your game isn't selling in China, your addressable market is actually much closer to being 4.5% Linux. That's not to pick on China, but China is a massive market on its own, and it's the difference between the case where you're selling microtransactions in Counter-Strike 2 or if you're selling a metroidvania.

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

Please give us Galaxy on Linux, GOG, so I can shop with you over Steam.

Buying games on Steams results in development of the Linux technology stack. No other game company funds open source upstream development like Valve. As nice as DRM-free games are, GOG is not a force for Linux advancement.

stardust,

Steam Deck was reason I moved from GOG to Steam again. Installation process and getting the game running is so much more streamlined than using heroic launcher. And sync saves is spotty and I don’t think there is achievement support last I tried.

Wish they had a proper Linux launcher, but they don’t see it worth it.

kralk,

For example, this game is Windows only

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

For example, this game is Windows only

OK, cool:

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/f1f77aad-0199-4bfb-84c0-6e025a720de0.png

Thx Valve.

kralk,

Yeah, I meant windows only on GOG

steeznson,

Yeah I’ve had issues playing GOG games on linux using arch/gentoo because the libs that the game wants to dynamically link are often not where it expects. It’s possible to resolve it but the Steam approach where they distribute a static bundle of libs into ~/.local/share is much less of a headache.

Presumably Galaxy could solve this problem and make Linux more viable. The dynamic linking of the libraries has been more of an issue than the missing Proton integration for me. Often it is easier to install GOG games with wine and take the performance hit!

refurbishedrefurbisher,

Why do they dynamically link libs instead of static linking, or better yet, distributing an AppImage?

steeznson,

Could be licensing or decreased server costs with smaller executable downloads? Not sure without being a fly on the wall at GOG.

Static vs dynamic linking is a huge, flame war-triggering debate in software. Like the original vim vs emacs.

haych,

Heroic Launcher is decent enough to use.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

Yeah, but I want things like auto updates and cloud saves as officially supported features rather than something they can revoke from Heroic at any time.

SidewaysHighways,

how long you been using it?

haych,

Since I got my Steam Deck, I think that was 2 years ago or so now? But I also ended up using it on my Windows PC to replace Amazon, Gog, and Epic.

It’s not perfect, but it does the job and means I don’t need multiple clients.

mox,

Just in case you don’t know: You can buy GOG games and download the installers in a browser.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

Yes, that's the selling point, but I also value automatic updates and cloud saves most of the time.

cmhe,

Do you really want auto-updates for your games, or actually just want updates-on-demand? Or just a notification with a button to update the game?

Personally I dislike Steams auto updates, because I want decide when a game should be updated. I might have mods installed, only mobile internet or a myriad other reasons not to be forced to download and apply an update right at that moment and instead just play the old version.

For saves, I normally just use syncthing. I have regularly issues with GOG and Steam cloud saves, and syncthing works well enough,

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

I want auto updates for my games so close to "always" that you can only tell it's not 100% if you squint a bit. I use Syncthing in other contexts, like syncing emulator saves to and from desktop and Steam Deck, and it's not quite as easy as Steam cloud saves.

AdmiralShat,

Why so? I use SyncThing and I have no issues with it what so ever.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

Setup is annoying, and feedback on whether or not it's working is a bit rough. I've lost data by misconfiguring it before. You have to run a background daemon on a device where battery life matters, so I tend to shut it off when I'm done. Syncing saves with SyncThing requires knowing where those save files are, whereas being built into the launcher client means they already know where those saves are, and that step is already done.

HKayn,
@HKayn@dormi.zone avatar

You can use the Heroic Games Launcher, which runs GOG games through Proton, offers automatic updates and integrates with GOG cloud saves.

Buying games on GOG through their launcher also gives them a cut of the money!

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

Do you have a source on Heroic getting a cut? I can't find it in their FAQ.

HKayn,
@HKayn@dormi.zone avatar

It’s in their latest release notes: github.com/Heroic-Games-Launcher/…/v2.13.0

It’s also featured on their donate page: heroicgameslauncher.com/donate

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

Neat. I was aware of Heroic before, but I haven't heard of this. This does change the equation for me, because now there's a data point that GOG can use to see where my money's going and how they can get more of it. What can you tell me about their refund policy? Are the results on ProtonDB just as reliable for GOG versions as they are for Steam versions of games? Does Heroic pre-compile Vulkan shaders the way that Proton on Steam enforces it? Whatever answers you don't have, I can do some of my own homework, but I'm intrigued now.

HKayn,
@HKayn@dormi.zone avatar

What can you tell me about their refund policy?

You can refund any purchase within 30 days. There are no restrictions on playtime, since GOG can’t feasibly control that.

You can get your refund either as store credit or to the payment method you used, however store credit is usually processed much faster.

Are the results on ProtonDB just as reliable for GOG versions as they are for Steam versions of games?

I can only vaguely answer this by saying the games that I tried (mainly indie games like Dead Cells and One Step from Eden) worked flawlessly.

Heroic Games Launcher has a Mastodon presence, so you can ask them there! mastodon.social/

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

Thanks a bunch. If I get the answers I'm looking for, maybe GOG will be my go-to.

HKayn, do games w God of War is coming to GOG
@HKayn@dormi.zone avatar

This. Is. HUGE.

Huge props to GOG for securing these titles!

scrubbles,
!deleted6348 avatar

I’m OOTL, why is GOG such a big deal? Isn’t it just another storefront like steam?

Gabadabs,
@Gabadabs@kbin.social avatar

It is, but most of their library is DRM free, so once you download it, those files are yours. Steam won't let you launch a game without logging into your account, gog doesn't even check.

CADmonkey,

Is this for real? I’m able to go to the folder on my hard drive and launch steam games without opening steam.

LUHG_HANI,
@LUHG_HANI@lemmy.world avatar

Huhh. Very unusual. You don’t already have steam open?

CADmonkey,

Nope.

echo64,

Steam has a drm system, not everything uses it though

kadu,
@kadu@lemmy.world avatar

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  • Chet_Awesomelad,
    @Chet_Awesomelad@kbin.social avatar

    GOG once did enforce the use of DRM-free executables, but (as far as I understand it) once they expanded their store to include modern AAA titles, some of the bigger game companies refused to follow that rule so they dropped the requirement.

    HKayn,
    @HKayn@dormi.zone avatar

    This is wrong.

    There’s only one game on GOG that doesn’t offer DRM-free installers, and that’s their live service game Gwent.

    Chet_Awesomelad,
    @Chet_Awesomelad@kbin.social avatar
    HKayn,
    @HKayn@dormi.zone avatar

    And that contradicts my statement… how exactly?

    TallonMetroid,
    @TallonMetroid@lemmy.world avatar

    Really? Huh, the about page still claims everything’s DRM free. Got any examples, so I know which games to not buy?

    HKayn,
    @HKayn@dormi.zone avatar

    Care to name the games you’re referring to?

    ninchuka,

    not all games on steam use the DRM

    HKayn,
    @HKayn@dormi.zone avatar

    Are you able to launch all your Steam games without Steam?

    Cethin,

    It’s almost certainly still going through steam. Steam has a .dll in all your game folders and it interacts with Steam. You don’t have to launch it through the launcher for it to use Steam. If you ever pirate a game and look at the crack files, there will often be that same name .dll in it. This is to bypass that Steam interface. If the game came from GoG it won’t even have a crack. It just works.

    HKayn,
    @HKayn@dormi.zone avatar

    As opposed to Steam, GOG will let you create backups of your games that will survive GOG itself. GOG provides offline backup installers that don’t need a launcher, internet or anything.

    I always tell everyone to at least get a fully DRM-free copy of their favorite childhood gaming memory.

    mox, do games w More ways to play your GOG games with Amazon Luna

    Maybe neat from a technology perspective, but one of the reasons I buy from GOG is to play my games without surveillance. Making Amazon a middle man would be antithetical to that.

    CatZoomies, do games w God of War is coming to GOG
    @CatZoomies@lemmy.world avatar

    Meanwhile, patient gamers waiting for Sony’s next GOG port:

    https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/11634abf-b57f-4166-b407-c837b55e7392.png

    ghostsinthephotograph, do games w Hardspace: Shipbreaker now on GOG

    Loved this game, though I really hope the studio gets to expand on that genre, storyline, and environment. Very enjoyable for what it is, but I want more! Would love for a future story to take you outside of that shipyard, more like you’re running an independent derelict salvage operation, traveling around star systems searching for your next score (i.e. early Firefly).

    Windex007,

    As opposed to… Late Firefly? Like, season 2?

    ghostsinthephotograph,

    Episode 1, where they are salvaging the Alliance ship and have to work quickly before they’re caught. In other words, not the planetary adventures and combat of Firefly because that would likely be too much of an undertaking to expand into that kind of game.

    Master,

    That would be ideal… with 6 player coop…

    ghostsinthephotograph,

    Man, maybe with specific roles, too? That could be awesome. Pilot, ship mechanic, engineer, security, salvagers, etc. With some danger/time tied to the salvages.

    yesdogishere,

    plus Entertainers on the local space salvagers cantina. Just before the Colonial Starfleet battlecruisers arrive and begin obliterating parked megacarriers with their pulse ion batteries.

    Ashtear,

    If they go back to this IP, I’m definitely picking their next game. Especially if it’s a similar narrative style.

    I don’t think I’ve ever played a spacefaring game in a setting with this kind of mega-corporate stranglehold, so I’m not sure how I’d feel about that. Maybe if the story involved some sort of game-changing technology breakthrough or discovery.

    Carighan,
    @Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

    Yeah, and there’s a fair few routes they could go with this.

    My favorite would probably be dedicated co-op, with variable player counts. That is, from 2 people where it’s two very different multi-role characters up to 4-6 where everyone only has a single role.

    It would just be quite difficult to design every ship so it has enough to do for everyone, but it’d allow for much bigger and much more detailed ship layouts if multiple people of varying specialized roles are working on it simultaneously.

    Alternatively, and maybe I’d love that even more, super large ships that are separated into “sectors”. You can see other players working next to you, and if you aren’t in a game with someone else, you’ll see random other players there.

    MrPoopbutt,

    I’d love to see capital class ships. Ships big enough to carry other ships!

    CatZoomies, do games w God of War is coming to GOG
    @CatZoomies@lemmy.world avatar

    Looks like Uncharted is also coming, too. gog.com/…/uncharted_legacy_of_thieves_collection I played the Tomb Raider reboots and loved them, so perhaps I’ll like Uncharted, too.

    Blackmist,

    Uncharted 4 is so much better than the TR reboot trilogy that it’s not even funny. That last one was especially bad.

    Coldgoron, do games w Fallout 4 has been released on GOG

    They have it on sell also. Very surprised that it came to gog before warcraft 3.

    Carighan, do games w GOG Autumn Sale
    @Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

    Disco Elysium for a 10er. Really, if you’re someone who has even the most passing interest in CRPGs, story-centric games or strong character dialogue, you owe it to yourself to play this. It’s beyond fantastic.

    Kolanaki,
    !deleted6508 avatar

    Disco Elysium is simply just a must have game for any gamer. Even if you don’t normally like the genre, you will like Disco Elysium. The only way you could dislike Disco Elysium, is if you hate incredible writing.

    Katana314,

    I got bored of it. I don’t remember laughing at any jokes a single time, and I never felt like the stat build I started out with (one of the game’s presets) ever let me do anything fun.

    all-knight-party,
    @all-knight-party@kbin.cafe avatar

    Yeah I think saying it's a must have for any gamer is a bit too much, no game is for literally everyone. Disco Elysium's humor doesn't strike me as overly humorous anyway, it's not really a comedic game, more of a dry chuckle now and then.

    And the fun is really just reading/hearing any of the dialogue or descriptions, it is very well written. You get a lot of different choices depending on the "build" stuff, but it's really mostly all well written and should be enjoyable if you're into the style at all

    Transcendant,

    I’m not going to link directly to any pirated content as I don’t want to break the c rules, but iirc the creators of Disco Elysium literally asked people to pirate the game instead of buying it, as none of the sale currently goes to them, seeing as they were (according to them) unfairly ousted and had lots of money kept from them.

    There’s a good summary here: pcgamer.com/disco-elysium-studio-declares-resolut…

    Chariotwheel,

    If you have time, I also recommend the People Make Games documentary that takes a look at and interview the people both sides: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGIGA8taN-M

    It's more than two hours, but it's worth every minute.

    Hyperreality, do games w Fallout 4 has been released on GOG

    It's annoying that so many mods require you to use the steam version, for this and skyrim.

    wizardbeard,
    @wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Is this just due to the mods only being on the steam workshop, or is there some other way the mods are checking the install type?

    I’m pretty upset that steam closed the method that allowed you to download from the workshop through a standard browser.

    Hyperreality,

    Not steam workshop, but nexus mods.

    Kolanaki, (edited )
    !deleted6508 avatar

    Nexus mods shouldn’t need Steam at all. Other than the steam_api.dll file, the file structure and all the files are identical, and all you have to do is out the mod files in the right place and turn them on in your load order. What mods do that? The only thing it really makes more difficult is if you want Steam Workshop mods. Which you can download, but you need to use a 3rd party tool to do it if you don’t own the game on Steam.

    There is also the new engine updates that fucked up old mods. Many Special Edition mods don’t work on the Anniversary edition, and Fallout 4 was supposed to be getting similar treatment recently. I don’t know if that is released yet or not, tho.

    Duke_Nukem_1990,

    Huh got an example?

    Pazintach,
    @Pazintach@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    My hundreds of Mods works fine on GoG version, including so many that requires skse. It’s hard to find a mod or function that I use since Oldrim without it’s GoG compatible version nowadays.

    Guy_Fieris_Hair, do games w God of War (PC) is now available on GOG

    Me want Ragnarock on PC

    Debs,

    Yes! I was just thinking about this last night. I’m finally playing through the first one and I’m loving it. I’d sure like to slide into the sequel…

    Cerothen,

    Maybe it will be here soon, horizon forbidden west will be out quite soon on PC (mar 21)

    Zahille7,

    Hopefully. And hopefully same with Spider-Man 2.

    0110010001100010, do games w Days Gone now on GOG ($16.49)
    @0110010001100010@lemmy.world avatar

    If you haven’t played this before do it, you won’t regret it. Amazing game all around. Such a shame the sequel got killed…

    newthrowaway20,

    I don’t know if I’d go so far as to say it’s amazing. But it’s totally worth this price.

    The pacing is all over, and if you hate radio buddies be prepared for a bad time. The story was also really lame. But if you can get through the halfway point, the game really opens up and gets a lot better. Your skill development follows a fun and challenging curve, and fighting hoards of zombies becomes a lot of fun. It just takes so long to get to that part of the game.

    Limeey,

    Agreed, I was pretty annoyed with parts of the main story.

    ::: Spoiler warning

    Imo boozer should have died, that would have made finding Sarah more emotional. His miraculous recovery always felt bullshit.

    Also Sarah’s character was ridiculous. I get that it’d been 2 years, but she didn’t care at all that deacon was alive. Their “keep it secret” thing was fine but like even in private she didn’t give a fuck, which was weird to me. And her whole “I can save them” arc was really weird.

    I remember thinking that there must have been a lot of cut content, because the end of the story progresses really fast compared to the rest, I had expected more build up.

    And finally, it would have been nice if at the end boozer and Sarah weren’t just boringly “sitting” at lost lake. like, they are badasses after that story but at the end they’re just content with sitting around while deacon goes off. The end game could have been vastly better than it was.
    :::

    ArtVandelay,
    @ArtVandelay@lemmy.world avatar

    Read all of Sarah’s lab notes that are scattered around as collectibles. They really help give insight into her thought process as soon as she saw Deacon again and flesh out the reasoning why her reception seemed as icy as it was.

    EeeDawg101, do games w Fallout 4 has been released on GOG

    Has anyone heard anything about the series x enhanced update for fallout 4? It was mentioned a long ass time ago and there’s been radio silence since then.

    Amilo159,
    @Amilo159@lemmy.world avatar

    I have One X and enhanced graphics look similar to PC at max.

    AbeFroman,

    I’m sure I read recently that they stated they have starfield as a priority at the moment. Hopefully before the end of the year.

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