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ChaoticEntropy, do games w Devs on Unity Runtime Fee: "The trust is gone forever"
@ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk avatar

Some things you can’t take back, especially when as CEO you don’t even try to take it back but just indicate that they might scale some of its extremes back. For now.

Rexios, do games w EGDF calls for EU regulation on non-negotiable contracts in wake of Unity backlash
stopthatgirl7, do games w EGDF calls for EU regulation on non-negotiable contracts in wake of Unity backlash
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Unity well and truly stepped in it, eh.

Buffalox, do games w Unity reportedly told dev Planned Parenthood and children's hospital are "not valid charities"

“not valid charities” and are instead “political groups.”

Only the Insane Christian right fanatics would call Planned Parenthood a political group!

Insane is the new normal in right wing America.

Edgelord_Of_Tomorrow,

Starting to sympathize with the employee who made the death threats

agent_flounder,
@agent_flounder@lemmy.one avatar

Which is why I’m calling them the rabid right from now on.

Empricorn, do gaming w Unity reportedly told dev Planned Parenthood and children's hospital are "not valid charities"

Is Unity a Republican? They seem to want to be greedy and wrong at every possible opportunity…

SatouKazuma,
@SatouKazuma@lemmy.world avatar

110% they are. Even want to force women to carry ectopic pregnancies to term, apparently.

Teodomo,

I mean, nowadays I assume almost all C-suite execs (which make these decisiones) to be conservative (or “apoliticals”/“insert other tag” that act like conservatives)

can,

You don’t get to their position by being a caring, empathetic person.

flux, do gaming w Unity reportedly told dev Planned Parenthood and children's hospital are "not valid charities"
@flux@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t see an official statement but it would be really amazing for a company that is asking everyone to follow the new rules to ignore the well established laws at the same time. They can have whatever opinions they want but these places are recognized as such.

“Some organizations must also file a request with the Internal Revenue Service to gain status as a tax-exempt non-profit charitable organization under section 501©(3) of the US tax code.”

“Planned Parenthood Federation of America, Inc is a nonprofit organization It is a tax-exempt corporation under Internal Revenue Code section 501©(3)”

SatouKazuma,
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Why do I get the feeling this has something everything to do with the political inclinations of Unity execs?

HughJanus,

It’s probably entirely due to the political shitstorm that would certainly follow.

SatouKazuma,
@SatouKazuma@lemmy.world avatar

I mean, they kinda started that by the statement already. They could have just limited it to a pre-approved list of charities, but instead, by not calling it a charity, in direct contradiction with US law, they’ve dragged themselves further into the clusterfuck, as if that were somehow possible.

HughJanus,

I don’t think you can consider denying their tax exempt status on the same level of political shit-flinging as actively funding their work.

SatouKazuma,
@SatouKazuma@lemmy.world avatar

So denying them isn’t political, but approving them is? Got it.

HughJanus,

That doesn’t even resemble what I said.

hsr,
@hsr@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Unity executives kind of forgot they can’t change US law on a whim like they changed their Terms Of Service.

zcd, do gaming w Unity reportedly told dev Planned Parenthood and children's hospital are "not valid charities"

Unity management doing an mega-asshole speedrun or what?

SSUPII,

More CEO crying for “why isn’t line going up quicker?!? make more now!”

WagesOf,

The 2020s hot new business practice is self immolation through hypercapitalist greed and assuming that just because you're the most popular in an industry you're the only choice.

I guess the vulture capitalism has turned inward.

TrenchcoatFullofBats,

I mean, look at the eyes of the CEO - if he was featured in a Unity game, he’d have “DEAD INSIDE” painted on him in indie developer blood.

Jimbo,
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Holy shit those eyes

LegionEris, (edited ) do gaming w Unity reportedly told dev Planned Parenthood and children's hospital are "not valid charities"

Calling Planned Parenthood a political group is just telling on yourself. You hate women’s bodily autonomy and/or trans people enough to overlook the fact that they offer free and income cost adjusted birth control and vasectomies and hysterectomies and fertility treatments. They are a non-profit organization offering every type of sexual and reproductive health care. They, in fact, do not engage in politically driven discrimination against certain types of sexual health issues. They treat those trying to get pregnant with the same level of evidence based care as those seeking abortion or hrt or to be made infertile, without concern for public opinion or political discourse. I assume all of the above can be said of the children’s hospital mentioned, but I don’t have an ongoing relationship with them to base my comments on…

HappyMeatbag, do gaming w Unity reportedly told dev Planned Parenthood and children's hospital are "not valid charities"
@HappyMeatbag@beehaw.org avatar

Okay. I was already annoyed, but now I’m like “seriously, fuck these people.” I hope Unity is driven out of business.

k_rol,

That doesn’t sound like a great outcome: one less game engine in the market, developers having to change all their codes, tons of layoff, c-suites finding a new job like nothing happened.

HappyMeatbag,
@HappyMeatbag@beehaw.org avatar

No, it’s far from great, but it’s better than allowing shenanigans like this to become the norm - and they will become the norm unless Unity pays severely.

k_rol,

Then I’d rather wish for the execs to be fired and replaced. They are the ones making those decisions that should pay for it.

Poggervania, do games w Unity reportedly told dev Planned Parenthood and children's hospital are "not valid charities"
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Obligatory plug for Godot if you want a FOSS game engine

eltimablo,

There's also O3DE, though I don't know what kind of state it's in.

Serinus,

I’m excited for the push this is gonna give Godot. Wouldn’t mind it becoming the mainstream engine.

Jaysyn, do gaming w Unity reportedly told dev Planned Parenthood and children's hospital are "not valid charities"
@Jaysyn@kbin.social avatar

Devs may as well bite the bullet & switch engines mid development now, because I'm not buying any new games made in Unity.

cupcakezealot,
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  • 1984,
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    I am not a developer but don’t they have to state the engine at the beginning of the game? Really no idea, just guessing, as I’ve seen a lot of games with it.

    CharlesReed, (edited )

    That would involved buying/downloading the game first to find out though (which would defeat the purpose of avoiding Unity in the first place). Out of curiosity I checked some of the games on my Steam wishlist to see if Steam had the engine listed anywhere, and unfortunately they don't. A few had it under the fine print copyright section under System Requirements, but not all. Because of this whole thing, it would be nice if Steam would include that as well, like in the sidebar where they list the developer and publisher. I can't speak for other pc storefronts though.

    OMGparticles, (edited )
    @OMGparticles@partizle.com avatar

    You can go to the SteamDB page for a game, click App Info on the left, then look for the “Detected Technologies”. This will usually tell you what they’re using if it’s not a custom engine. You can use the Augmented Steam or SteamDB browser extensions to get a direct link to the SteamDB page from a game’s store page.

    Also, SteamDB has a page here with aggregate data of how much each detected engine is used across Steam. Unity currently accounts for over half of the games using known engines (snapshot).

    Edit: For non-Steam games you could check out IGDB.com. It has crowd-sourced data on all video games, including which game engine was used.

    sculd, do gaming w Unity reportedly told dev Planned Parenthood and children's hospital are "not valid charities"

    At this point? Fuck Unity!

    Tywele, (edited )

    Yes even if they backpedal no one knows if they don’t try something again in the future. So everyone who can switch to a different engine should do so.

    Lmaydev, (edited )

    Trust is broken now. If they can just drop a new charge like this when ever they want how can you possibly plan a business around it.

    realitista,

    After all this would there really be any reason to use them especially when Unreal has just been crushing it lately with lumen, nanite, etc.

    MJBrune,

    I’ve used unreal professionally for 10 years. It’s not very good for smaller teams. There is plenty of reason to pick another engine over it. Unreal is great for medium to large studios. 15 people or more. It can absolutely be used with less but the pain of doing so it’s more apparent.

    Also before this whole unity fee change, unity was cheaper than unreal. Although I’ve always skipped over it because I want source access.

    Computerchairgeneral, do games w Unity reportedly told dev Planned Parenthood and children's hospital are "not valid charities"

    Unity really just keeps stepping on rakes right now huh? Can't wait to see how they manage to make this situation even worse before it's over.

    bappity, do games w Unity reportedly told dev Planned Parenthood and children's hospital are "not valid charities"
    @bappity@lemmy.world avatar

    I’ve got to say, seeing all these big companies with shit management making shit decisions this year has been great.

    Chailles, do gaming w Unity reportedly told dev Planned Parenthood and children's hospital are "not valid charities"
    @Chailles@lemmy.world avatar

    Regardless of any political machinations, this is Unity being given a choice between making more money and making less money. Unsurprisingly, they claim that they’re choosing to make more money.

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