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slartibartfast141, do games w Ron Gilbert cancels RPG project due to lack of support and funding

“They have formulas that they apply to games to try to figure out how much money they could make, and in the end you end up giving a whole lot of games that look exactly the same as last year’s games, because that makes some money,” Gilbert explained.

He continued: “That’s why I really enjoy the indie game market because it’s kind of free of a lot of that stuff that big publishers bring to it, and there’s a lot more creativity, strangeness, and bizarreness.”

There’s still a lot of creativity in big games but it’d be shame to see more movement towards nostalgia-driven/pastiche type games.

DudeImMacGyver, do games w Wreckreation maker Three Fields Entertainment puts whole studio on redundancy notice
@DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth avatar

I've never even heard of this, shame it's no good apparently?

Venator,

Seems like they didn’t spend enough on marketing… As a fan of the Burnout games I never heard of it until now either…

qarbone,

You also didn’t hear about it because it’s not great. I watched a stream of it: the gameplay looks uninspired, like a student project to mimic Burnout, and the visuals would have looked dated in 2010.

But it was functional. So it’s neither good nor bad enough to rave about. You just say “huh”, flip a coin, and either uninstall forever or play every 7 months when you remember it’s on your hard drive.

BuckenBerry, do games w Ron Gilbert cancels RPG project due to lack of support and funding

I wonder if he tried to get in touch with smaller indie publishers (something like yacht club games) or he focused on more established companies.

SlartyBartFast, do games w Ron Gilbert cancels RPG project due to lack of support and funding

I like Ron Gilbert.

Mellow12,
AllNewTypeFace, do gaming w Japanese devs face font licensing dilemma as leading provider increases annual plan price from $380 to $20,000+
@AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space avatar

Nowadays, creating fonts is easier than ever, with widely available tools. Creating good fonts that don’t look like hot garbage and don’t make your eyes hurt after reading a paragraph is somewhat harder, though type designers graduate from courses every year. There are lots of small independent foundries selling fonts around the world, and consultancies that will design fonts on commission for brands. If Monotype are going to play the private-equity extortion game, they’ll soon find game companies commissioning fonts they then own outright from designers, or even hiring a few type designers with the usual intake of 3D graphics/texture/animation artists.

it_depends_man, do games w Ron Gilbert cancels RPG project due to lack of support and funding

the interview that was mentioned:

arstechnica.com/…/after-40-years-of-adventure-gam…

Pickleideas, do games w Ron Gilbert cancels RPG project due to lack of support and funding

Using a screenshot of Stardew while quoting a developer saying it takes money and staff to finish a project is diabolical

CannonGoBoom,
@CannonGoBoom@lemmy.world avatar

That’s not Stardew Valley

dukemirage, (edited )

Stardew Valley totally would have taken staff and money if you can’t live in your parent’s house forever. edit: I didn’t want it to sound mean towards Barone, it’s great what his family did for him, but this game was made possible with a very strong support net – a luxury not many have.

Hudell,

No idea why you’re being downvoted, the guy who created Stardew literally had his wife take care of his whole life for him while he was working on it.

slimerancher,
@slimerancher@lemmy.world avatar

“It’s either a passion project you spent ten years on, or you need a bunch of money to be able to hire people and resources”

From the article.

fushuan,

I also thought I t was Stardiew but after 3 seconds looking it’s evident it’s not.

Jeffool, (edited ) do games w Ron Gilbert cancels RPG project due to lack of support and funding
@Jeffool@lemmy.world avatar

He’s been talking about it on Mastodon for quite a while now. It’s a shame.

/edit: It wasn’t the game he talked about on Masto; that game finished/released! My dumb. I thought it was continued development.

p03locke,
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It’s a shame, but also, there’s billions of games and RPGs out already. The game industry is so oversaturated, it’s not even funny.

Carnelian,

I will take this opportunity to recommend Crosscode, one of the best action RPGs of all time according to 90% of people who play it.

But yeah even amazing games like that fly under people’s radar in the huge deluge of games. I wish it were easier for good games to find their audience

brsrklf,

I like CrossCode, but I am going to bat for Phoenotopia Awakening, one of the best game almost nobody has heard about. Slightly different perspective but similarly massive game full of secrets, puzzles, fun characters and a consistent world where even the tiniest bit of banter can lead you to discover something on the other side of the map.

Carnelian,

Wow this looks incredible actually! Definitely giving it a go, thank you

Dagnet,

Not having a quest log made that game hell for me. Massive world with tons of little quests that take you all over the map and no way to track progress or see what the last part of the quest is asking for.

brsrklf,

I can kind of see that.

It was not a huge problem for me, but I play lots of metroidvania, and I am used to memorizing stuff for later. And for stuff that I know will be hard to remember, occasionally, I might take notes or screenshots of hints.

Though most of the time, there are more than one hint for a single quest. The game does a very good job at updating every related NPC dialogue when something has changed.

But if you want to find everything, yeah you have to talk to absolutely everyone. TWICE. Almost everyone has two lines of dialogue at any moment.

MoonManKipper,

Thank you both for the recommendations

pumpkin_spice,

Hey a fellow Phoenotopia Awakening fan!

I love that game but I made the mistake of putting it down for a year. When I came back I was completely lost and had no idea what I had already done or what to do next. The game does not have quest logs and does not hold your hand this way. It’s a game where people might benefit from documenting their progress as they go, especially in case they ever take a break from it.

jjjalljs,

Weird that it’s unsupported on steam deck. Doesn’t look that demanding technically.

brsrklf,

A bit weird indeed. I’ve played it on switch and it runs perfectly fine on it.

Adulated_Aspersion, (edited )

It runs fine on the Deck.

Source: i have only played it on the Deck.

Mind you, it has been docked and played on a TV, so the text is fine and the controls are from an Xbox controller, so YMMV.

Edit: I am talking about CrossCode. I haven’t played Phoentopia, yet.

Adulated_Aspersion,

I bought it last night after reading this. I hadn’t heard of Phoentopia at all. You suggested it. I watched one video. I found it on sale on GOG, and I bought it. I will install it and play it this weekend.

Thank you!

jjjalljs,

I really liked CrossCode’s art and vibe and everything. The puzzles are good, too. But the puzzles are kind of hard in a way that tires me out.

I guess that’s how some people feel about dark souls. “Oh, I’m glad that’s over”. That’s not quite the vibe I’m aiming for.

Maybe I’ll play it with a friend who’s good at puzzles so I can just do the fighty parts.

IceSoup,

That’s funny, I loved the puzzles, but dropped it because the combat didn’t click for me.

dan1101,
@dan1101@lemmy.world avatar

And there are so many games that never got finished or polished properly.

brucethemoose,

And the discoverability pipe is breaking.

  • No one reads oldschool curators like RockPaperShotgun anymore. They’re barely afloat.
  • Generic algorithmic social media like YouTube tends to snowball a few games.
  • Forums are dead. Reddit is dystopian.

That leaves Steam’s algorithm, and a sea of sparsely seen solo reviewers. But there are billions of people oblivious to passion projects they’d love, and playing AAAs or gacha phone apps instead.

jjjalljs,

There are dozens of us reading rock paper shotgun!

But yeah, the modern web sucks. It’s all soulless algorithms and profit/rent seeking.

Even if someone tried to make forums again, they’d probably fill up with AI slop.

brucethemoose,

I mean, many forums are still live.

The problem is engagement. Discord, YouTube, even Lemmy all ping you in your pocket and offer more “instant” dopamine hits than a forum or news site, hence they’ve sucked all the attention.

It works. I’m guilty of falling into it for sure, even when I keep telling myself I will change my information diet.

criss_cross,

And even if you don’t a lot of your friends and community do. Forums aren’t fun when it’s just you there.

Chingzilla,

I still enjoy Yahtzee on Second Wind since the whole Escapist debacle. They seem to be trying to stoplight more indie games which I really appreciate.

techt,

I know you meant “spotlight” but that typo made me chuckle

jeeva,

John Walker (founder of RPS, back when it wasn’t a window to Eurogamer style content) is currently doing Buried Treasure, a small review blog for things that aren’t being appreciated by the masses. Well worth checking out!

Melobol,

For finding new games Steam peek is pretty good. And playtester io isn’t bad either.

spaciouscoder78, do gaming w Japanese devs face font licensing dilemma as leading provider increases annual plan price from $380 to $20,000+
@spaciouscoder78@lemmy.ml avatar

There are a lot of free fonts (open source in your language) out there that cost nothing to use.

Azzu,

Are you sure about this being true in Japanese? Open source culture over there might be different, and I don’t think many Western fonts include Japanese glyphs.

It’s likely, but I wouldn’t extrapolate from my Western experiences in this case.

ArcaneSlime,

I’d bet it’s easier (and probably exists) with Katakana and Hiragana, Kanji OTOH, maybe not.

Burnoutdv,

Unfortunately there is a high level of complexity in some asian text, Chinese and Japanese kanji that are very similar have thousands of characters that are built in parts as far as i understood the technical site but are still annoyingly diverse, so you need a lot more than just lower, upper case, numbers and special characters

scratchee, do gaming w Japanese devs face font licensing dilemma as leading provider increases annual plan price from $380 to $20,000+

Notosans all the things everywhere? It’s a shame, but font users have an ethical duty to not pay these scumbags anything

nasi_goreng,
@nasi_goreng@lemmy.zip avatar

Noto Sans definitely not choice for most of games.

Imagine having Elden Ring or Persona being served as Noto Sans. Even text heavy games, especially visual novel, use unique suitable font on main menu.

AntiBullyRanger, do gaming w Japanese devs face font licensing dilemma as leading provider increases annual plan price from $380 to $20,000+

Have the penalties for what you ratified for. 🎻

nasi_goreng,
@nasi_goreng@lemmy.zip avatar

Yeah, Japanese copyright law for software seriously needs to be overhaul.

AntiBullyRanger,

nah, the whole thing. authoritarianism needs to die.

Megaman_EXE, do gaming w Japanese devs face font licensing dilemma as leading provider increases annual plan price from $380 to $20,000+

So then it sounds like somebody just needs to provide a font for applications that is a low priced one time payment and they would do pretty well. I wonder how difficult it is

AntiBullyRanger,

Or kill copyright. Japan is nothing without that fascist slave collar^MET^.

Fredthefishlord,

Yes, I too love allowing large corporations to steal from independent artists and use their larger resources to take market share and all of the profit

AntiBullyRanger,

… you know it is precisely copyright that allowed large corporation to form, right?

Fredthefishlord,

That’s strictly untrue

AntiBullyRanger,

Wait, you’re serious claiming the opposite of the reality.

Fredthefishlord,

Large corporations predate copyright, including the west india trading company. So yes, it is strictly untrue. Not all business relies on copyright and patents to run.

AntiBullyRanger,

Corporations created by government granted monopolies… Now, why would governments even entertaining the formation of corporations?

Fredthefishlord,

That’s a different conversation. You’re redirecting. My statement was as to that copyright is not necessary for large corporations. I’m still anti corpo. Without copyright large businesses would be the primary beneficiaries. They’d be able to freely do as china’s factories do. They’d simply undercut the original inventers with their massive wealth, making the products cheaper(and often worse), selling more and amassing more money for themselves.

AntiBullyRanger,

Without copyright large businesses would be the primary beneficiaries.

You merge or sue your competition to death for copyright violations first…

They’d simply undercut the original inventers with their massive wealth, making the products cheaper(and often worse), selling more and amassing more money for themselves.

Capitalism without copyright…

Fredthefishlord,

Yes,

Capitalism without copyright…

Capitalism is the issue. Not copyright. Why do you think copyright is causing the problems that capitalism is causing.

You merge or sue your competition to death for copyright violations first…

A nonsense statement when said in reply to what I said.

AntiBullyRanger, (edited )

Because the monopolies that capitalism creates, created copyright in the first place…. The monopoly on who gets to form corporations or not is a feature of capitalism that copyright or not strengthens. If you cease copyright altogether, capitalists will still abuse others because the government lobbied them so.

Capitalism ≠ Laissez-faire free markets, but government owning the rights on who gets to issue bonds and debts. You can’t form a corporation without their expressed permission, if not, you loose your status as a corporation.

Copyright was expressely created to control the free flow of information, so the King and his nobility could amass wealth + control. It keeps working precisely because folks want a class society: wherein the law protects them, but punishes everyone else.

Fredthefishlord,

You can’t form a corporation without their expressed permission, if not, you loose your status as a corporation.

This is just wrong. It’s not permission. You submit to their bureaucracy, yes, but that’s guaranteed if you submit your paperwork correctly, it’s not a permission.

Capitalism ≠ Laissez-faire free markets, but government owning the rights on who gets to issue bonds and debts.

This is not completely accurate. It implies it’s a prior approval situation instead of a post-revocable situation which while similar are notably different. The government cannot revoke those privileges arbitrarily. There is rules for them, but those rules do not restrict who does so, they restrict how it’s done.

Speaking broadly, a system where the king issues money, and controls said money, is not capitalism anymore than socialism is communism. When nobility exist and can arbitrarily set rules and taxes, that is not capitalism. That isn’t to say either are good, they’re both terrible systems. But the thing you described with a king is strictly not capitalism, it’s a different evil.

AntiBullyRanger,

government cannot revoke those privileges arbitrarily.

Ok, it’s just ignorance on your part.

Speaking broadly, a system where the king issues money, and controls said money, is not capitalism

Cripes, your comprehension is just appalling. Next your going to sell me your follicles for your fealty to copyright governance with your level of dissonance

Fredthefishlord,

The fact that you linked 3 links that don’t counter what I said is impressive.

AntiBullyRanger, (edited )

It does, if u comprehend ðt private ownership of ð means of trade means exactly ðt ð Diet made ðmselves proprietors of ð font, & want ð developers to pay rent. But since you ðink ð yen was creatd by Monotype, ðn Laissez faire ur font away, dissonant trader.

xthexder, do gaming w Japanese devs face font licensing dilemma as leading provider increases annual plan price from $380 to $20,000+
@xthexder@l.sw0.com avatar

What is this even licensing? You can’t copyright a typeface in Japan or the US: en.wikipedia.org/…/Intellectual_property_protecti…

Technically the .ttf file could be copyright as a specific means to reproduce the typeface, but someone could just run it through something to copy the shapes and then there’s nothing to be licensed.

inconel,

Japanese law doesn’t consider font itself or the style to be copyrighted, but font files are considered “program” (it is very broad in jurisdictional sense, roughly translates to “digital data that produce products through computational process”, and displaying letters on monitor is applicable) and thus fall under under copyright protection.

xthexder,
@xthexder@l.sw0.com avatar

That’s what I was saying with the .ttf file being copyright. It’s entirely possible to generate a new “program” that produces the same shapes while being a brand new uncopyrighted program. There’s an infinite number of ways to describe how to draw a shape, only the one in the original file is copyright.

inconel, (edited )

IANAL but again, the program is not program in general sense. The regular “program” part here is ttf format and protocol around there, but protection goes over ttf data as a whole. It may be able to argue if such new font display system is developed and used, practically no gamedev/publishing industries want to reinvent the wheel and built the ecosystem from scratch.

Also, the infringement criteria is not necessarily on process but also end results similarity and intention in Japanese law. When intention comes up in argument defendant often provide proof they did not have access to the alleged source or its end product.

WatDabney, do gaming w Japanese devs face font licensing dilemma as leading provider increases annual plan price from $380 to $20,000+

People complain about the evil of landlords, but it’s nothing compared to companies like this.

Landlords at least nominally provide some sort of ongoing services. There are no necessary services a font company could possibly provide - there’s no maintenance, no upkeep, no ongoing costs at all. This is just pure, and purely evil, rent-seeking.

TehPers,

To be clear, there are some awful landlords out there. I agree with your point, but I don’t want to diminish the dislike of many landlords.

SARGE,
@SARGE@startrek.website avatar

Landlords province nothing to society, they are leeches who profit off others hard work simply because they “own the property” the worker lives on and takes care of.

Save a tree, axe a landlord.

TehPers,

This is not true at all. Good landlords also take care of the property, providing what is functionally a “home as a service” with none of the hassle of maintaining it.

There are bad landlords. Most rentals are owned by them. There are precious few that are not.

SARGE,
@SARGE@startrek.website avatar

Found the landleech

TehPers, (edited )

Imagine having a different opinion.

You could never.

Edit: I don’t even know why I responded. You are clearly incapable of having a real discussion. I’m done.

bear,

I’m a socialist and I agree with them.

The reality is that not everyone wants to own and maintain their current home, for a variety of reasons. So long as homes are commodified, which they effectively will be for the long-term forseeable future until we live in a true post-scarcity society, renting a home will be a necessary option that a functioning society must provide. Building housing is expensive in terms of labor and resources, and that labor must be compensated somehow, and not everyone will want or be able to front that entire cost. Or maybe they simply don’t want to settle down permanently where they are now, or even ever, and therefore homeownership would saddle themselves with unwanted debts and the trouble of selling the home when they do move.

The flaws we see in modern day landlords are largely a function of capitalism. Housing is a necessary resource for survival, but one that we’ve rendered artificially scarce through social and economic policy inflating the price, and then it gets bought up by the only people who can afford it and rented out to those who can’t. There’s nothing inherently wrong with, for example, a worker-owned cooperative leasing out housing and providing maintenance services at a fair price for those homes for people who don’t want to do it themselves. Ownership alone isn’t a job and such rentseeking would be forbidden in a sane and just society, but under a better system there would still be room for such a service that provides genuine value to society.

Kissaki,

Part of this service is covering the risk of unforseen cost. Heating breaks? That may become expensive. You pay a monthly fee and don’t have to manage risk and cost like that. Many people would be ruined if they had to cover that and repair becomes necessary, or face worsening condition.

TehPers,

As someone who owns my home (a moderately small 2-bedroom condo), I have tens of thousands of dollars worth of work to do to it that I really don’t want to do. Nobody is going to do it for me.

Sometimes I wish I was renting ngl, but rent would be even higher than my mortgage for the same sized place.

kate,

that’s a weird way to spell housing scalper

alyaza, do gaming w Japanese devs face font licensing dilemma as leading provider increases annual plan price from $380 to $20,000+
@alyaza@beehaw.org avatar

As reported by Gamemakers and GameSpark and translated by Automaton, Fontworks LETS discontinued its game licence plan at the end of November.

The expensive replacement plan – offered through Fontwork’s parent company, Monotype – doesn’t even provide local pricing for Japanese developers, and comes with a 25,000 user-cap, which is likely not workable for Japan’s bigger studios.

The problem is further compounded by the difficulties and complexities of securing fonts that can accurately transcribe Kanji and Katakana characters.

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