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workerONE, do gaming w What does everyone think about The Finals?

It’s fun and it’s not frustrating

NENathaniel, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of January 14th
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Quake Champions, still my fav shooter

pete, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of January 14th

@chloyster Guild Wars 2 World vs World and Ghost Recon Breakpoint (which was on deep discount). The latter appears to have been mostly turned around with regards to its release bugs but I am still in the process of gauging the capability of the enemy AI.
The fact that you can tweak the gameplay details on a scale of "the division Style looter shooter" right up to "almost mil-sim" levels is quite impressive to me.

Glaive0, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of January 14th

Been playing Dishonored for the first time and really enjoying it. I’m only at the bridge and trying to play a low/no kill game. I’m not succeeding just yet, but it’s been really enjoyable and they do stealth really well. I’m baffled that they mismanaged to get the team that made this and Prey to push out Redfall? Man.

Just picked up FFVII after the second or third hiatus or my third or fourth attempt to play it. FINALLY made it to the Nibelheim story and past Midgard. And that somehow still manages to work on me as a first time player.

Just beat Banner Saga 1 and have never felt so much like a failure after “beating” a game. That game is trying to unseat This War of Mine for decisions regretted/minute.

I’m wanting to start up my Nintendo series playthroughs again by either starting Mario Galaxy 2 or trying to remember what on earth was happening in Majora’s Mask (3DS) something about the water temple maybe?

Coelacanth,
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I’m baffled that they mismanaged to get the team that made this and Prey to push out Redfall? Man.

It wasn’t actually the same studio, Dishonored was made by Arkane Lyon while Redfall was made by Arkane Austin. Arkane Lyon are the ones working on the upcoming Marvel’s Blade game, however.

Glaive0,

So Prey team made Redfall and Dishonored team is making the new Blade game? Good to know!

bonegakrejg, do gaming w What games do you think are unfairly snubbed when talking about the best games of all time?

Morrowind and Oblivion both have a massive fan following but I think always get unfairly overlooked for Skyrim.

trustnoone,

I would return 5 Skyrim remakes for just 1 remake of oblivion or Morrowing. Does a great disservice that those games a regulated to past consoles.

Malgas,

I’m not sure I would trust modern Bethesda to remake Morrowind.

Good_morning,

Gotta agree, they haven’t inspired confidence lately, I was expecting redfall & starfield to be groundbreaking games that I would want to play for years, sadly no. It makes me concerned for elder scrolls 6

soulsource,
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There are some amazing fan projects though:

  • While it isn’t a remake, OpenMW improves upon the original game’s graphics - it does not change textures or models though, just rendering features.
  • Skywind is a remake though - it uses the engine of Skyrim to recreate Morrowind.
  • Skyblivion is the same idea, but with Oblivion.
bonegakrejg,

OpenMW may as well be a remake, it runs very well and updates everything for modern hardware. Thats probably the way to go if you want to play Morrowind today.

Sina,

I agree, Skyrim was a huge disappointment for me.

Kwakigra, (edited )

After Fallout 3, each Bethesda release was less ambitious than the last. Oblivion tried to do tons of stuff and ended up as a beautiful and memorable total mess (It’s my personal favorite). Fallout 3 was a bold new direction and a more stable but fudamentally compromised experience. Skyrim established the trend of scaling back and making what’s left more consistent, simple, and flashy. Fallout 4 was the last major fan outcry from those who believed Bethesda could have done better while Starfield is a confirmation that everyone’s worst fears about Bethesda are true.

saigot,

I can tell dozens of stories of buggy hilarious moments in oblivion stories that are memorable and unique. All I remember from vanilla skyrim are the official plots everyone went through. It was just as buggy just charmless.

Kwakigra,

Too true. Being able to jump over buildings was the basis for many of my old Oblivion shenanigans. You can’t really get weird with the Skyrim options without modding.

massive_bereavement,
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It's truly you! The hero of Kvatch!

ampersandrew, do gaming w How about starting a challenge #VoiceLikeAGirl to put on the other shoe in gaming?
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Online games that let you talk to strangers aren't great when you're a guy either. Not because of targeted harassment, but because you often enough just end up with people screaming into the mic or repeating the N word over and over again for no reason. The last time I turned on voice chat with strangers was 7 years ago, with PUBG, and I quickly turned it back off. (It feels wrong that that game is somehow 7 years old.)

memo,
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I’m sorry but it is definitely nowhere as close as the kind of harassment women receive. They have to deal with insults based on their gender, sexual harassment, digital stalking outside of games, etc

ampersandrew,
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I didn't mean to imply that it's close, only that it's already awful enough that I'm not about to run some experiment for how much worse it can be. It's already an activity so bad that I haven't engaged with it in years.

memo,
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aaah sorry my bad, I guess I misunderstood

autumn, do gaming w What games do you think are unfairly snubbed when talking about the best games of all time?
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ooblets and fire watch are not difficult or lengthy games, but both were so enjoyable. i think casual games often get the short end of the stick unless there’s some online element a la animal crossing.

zepfhyr, do gaming w What games do you think are unfairly snubbed when talking about the best games of all time?
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Marathon Infinity - The whole Marathon trilogy did a lot for defining the story-driven FPS (as did System Shock), but since the first and last title were Mac only for years, they didn’t get the credit they deserved among the pantheon of FPS greats.

Superbrothers: Sword & Sworcery EP - For years, whenever someone asked me what the must-have game was for iOS, this was always my answer. It shows up on a fair number of iOS lists, but doesn’t get the same level of recognition on PC. One of the most well-crafted experiences ever.

Clash at Demonhead - Despite having an Easter egg in Scott Pilgrim, this NES game is largely forgotten. It was one of my favorites in my youth and I am always surprised by how few people have played it, let alone finished it.

naevaTheRat, do gaming w What games do you think are unfairly snubbed when talking about the best games of all time?
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Basically everything old. There’s such massive recency bias in game discussions. It’s very much an explicit marketing strategy to promote the new thing as more everything but somehow it’s infected almost all discussions.

Sure ok, playing an old game requires a bit more investment and effort than watching an old film or even reading an old book but mostly it’s just about lack of familiarity. Especially outside of fps style games where I’ll admit prior to halo 1 things were pretty all over the shop many older games are still approachable.

Coupled with the general dismissal of strategy and simulation genres (which were comparatively bigger in the past) and many things get forgotten outside of cult classic status.

ampersandrew,
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If I'm rattling down a list of my favorite games ever, they're heavily concentrated in the last decade, with a couple of stragglers from earlier than that. I don't think that's recency bias; I think developers have just, in general, gotten better at honing in on what people like, especially in the age of rapid patching. There's plenty of negative that comes along with this too, but for every game like Diablo IV that patches out builds because they were too much fun and impacted their live service retention rate, there are plenty of games coming out of early access after learning what worked and didn't work with their players, much more rapidly than the old days of iterating on yearly sequels.

JohnEdwa,

Old is relative though. Age doesn’t hit movies or books nearly as hard as it does to games and gameplay mechanics, and where exactly that acceptable limit happens to be differ for each individual - with no doubt a large correlation based on your age.
It’s just really hard to imagine yourself in the shoes of someone who didn’t grow up with them and doesn’t have the appreciation and nostalgia of those times. Heck, back when I was a kid with my PSX, anything on the NES felt like an ancient unplayable relic.

naevaTheRat,
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Idk, it’s pretty difficult to get my peers to check out black and white film, let alone silent, and yet most enjoy what they see.

I came to gaming after the NES (although I was alive at the time) and have recently been emulating games and have been surprised by how good some are.

There are still modern games that expect you to read a manual before playing, there are still modern games where it takes about 2 hours to learn the UI. There are older games with 3 page manuals and simple controls too.

You’ve got to remember you’re not immune to marketing tactics either. Like part of the resistance to checking out older stuff has been placed in us all by gaming companies training us to interpret stuff like low framerate as bad, or controls that aren’t fluid as bad.

Best game doesn’t necessarily mean most enjoyable now, or even an enjoyable experience at all. Some of the greatest art is difficult, unpleasant, and challenging. Some of the greatest video games are those that set trends, or do something unique despite rough edges, or are even straight up hostile to their player.

amju_wolf, do gaming w What games do you think are unfairly snubbed when talking about the best games of all time?
@amju_wolf@pawb.social avatar

Where are my Outer Wilds boys at?

knokelmaat,

Always ready to bump my favorite game of all time, but honestly I feel this is quite a popular opinion (compared to some of the games in OP’s list that are really overlooked on these discussions of best games ever).

But still, what an incredible experience, the OST for outer Wilds was my fourth most listened to on last year’s Spotify Wrapped :)

Thanks for reminding me!

astrionic,

Yeah, it may not be as popular as Mario or Zelda, but I wouldn’t say it’s “unfairly forgotten”. People who have played the game tend to be pretty vocal about it. And justifiably so, I’ve never had a comparable experience in another game. I wish I could forget about it and play it again.

amju_wolf,
@amju_wolf@pawb.social avatar

For the people who do find out about it and it hooks them enough sure, it’s not really forgotten or underrated. But I still think it’s kinda obscure / not well known?

apprehensively_human,

I’m not sure how this compares to Spotify but I still feel pretty good about this one

https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/48f9290b-3bb1-4657-b1c4-2455db6e4e54.jpeg

iegod,

I started playing the Outer Worlds thinking I had simply misheard the name Outer Wilds and found myself very confused but still kept trudging on. Thank you for bringing some sanity into my life; Wilds seems like the game I wanted to play the whole time, not Worlds. I’ll see how chaotic I can fuck out Worlds before I ditch it for Wilds.

apotheotic,

Not a boy but I’m fucking HERE for Outer Wilds. And TUNIC, in the same vein.

moody, do gaming w What does everyone think about The Finals?

I saw a $100 bundle of in-game currency and decided I’d rather not play.

workerONE,

But they just buy skins and stuff. You don’t need to pay to play, it won’t help you win.

moody,

I wouldn’t pay $100 for an entire game. It grosses me out that someone is expected to spend $100 on cosmetics. Like obviously not everyone, but that it’s even possible is rather horrifying. Especially since it doesn’t stop there. You can buy multiple packs, and it’s fully expected that some people will.

VulKendov,
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And it’s true that some people will, but those people exist whether the game offers it or not. If The Finals won’t offer it, then they’ll just spend their money elsewhere.

Salad_Fries, do games w What are some of the best mini-games youve played? (games inside games)

“The coin game” has some of the best designed minigames ive ever seen!

The game is essentially just a collection of minigames, but it is put together incredibly well

mechoman444, do games w This console generation seems skippable

The last console I got was the 360 halo three special addition. Been on PC ever since.

Which as we all know makes me superior.

someguy3,

Keyboard and mouse or do you use a controller?

mechoman444,

I can’t believe you even have to ask.

someguy3,

People do different things. I notice you didn’t answer.

delitomatoes, do gaming w What games do you think are unfairly snubbed when talking about the best games of all time?

There’s a whole generation of players now who never got to experience Soul Reaver. Brilliant writing by Amy Henning, amazing voice cast.

People lauding Lords of the Fallen dual world forgot that Soul Reaver did it first.

At this point the closest thing would be a Zelda/ Dark Souls hybrid which we haven’t seen?

Walican132,

@delitomatoes @Lunar

Soul reaver is on my short list of potential games to start next. (It’s up against Half Life and Silent Hill). I went through the first blood omen about a year ago and loved it.

bonegakrejg,

I was thinking Soul Reaver too! I think the problem is that it had a handful of mediocre sequels that made people eventually lose interest in the series. But the original game was one of the best on the PS1. I loved the whole improvised combat mechanic where you have to use anything around you in the environment that could hit the vampires’ weakneses.

herorobb,

I think Soul Reaver 2 was the peak of the series for me. When Kain had his monologue during the climax about flipping a coin enough times that one day it lands on its side, jesus. I get goosebumps just remembering it.

Trainguyrom,

flipping a coin enough times that one day it lands on its side

There was a twilight zone episode based on this premise too!

roterabe, do games w This console generation seems skippable

Let’s put it this way. Split screen was a mostly console exclusive feature before some genius decided to kill it off. Locking multiplayer behind a pay wall at some point was also the stupidest idea I’ve ever seen.

Most new titles for consoles are exactly as enjoyable on PC. The experience is almost identical. Companies prefer it this way too.

They can make a nice exclusive and release it for PC 2 years later to reap double the profit.

The above has me thinking that consoles are becoming a niche. I’d just get a steam deck for portable gaming and a play pass for the exclusives not yet available on PC.

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