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LocoLobo, do gaming w Shower thought: Valve could do the ultimate boss-move this year

OP clearly overestimates how many people would use SteamOS or any other Linux distro for that matter. Most users are casual gamers these days, they are not changing OS just because there is a forced Windows update.

princessnorah,

I don’t know, I think you’re clearly underestimating how many people would install Valve’s OS. The number of people with a Steam Deck that don’t know that what it’s running is a Linux distro is pretty high. The other piece to this is that it’s not just a forced Windows update for a huge chunk of users, it’s a forced device upgrade. Valve offering a free upgrade that negates the need to buy new hardware would absolutely capture people’s attention.

LocoLobo,

Yes and no, people can still use win10, it just won’t receive patches anymore. And in this particular case, my best guess is, that most people would rather use and outdated OS for a long time, rather than changing the OS altogether. Not every game is on steam, also not every non game programm is easily available for Linux. Humans are lazy.

princessnorah,

I don’t disagree in principle, but from what I’ve heard the full screen “buy a new computer” pop-ups are pretty bloody annoying!

teawrecks,

You’re forgetting that valve can also drop support for EOL versions of windows, which so far they have.

LocoLobo,

True, but for example for Win7 they dropped support last year I think. So quite some time.

teawrecks,

I think that was them drawing a line on eol windows. They cut both 7 and 8.1 at the same time. Could just be the policy now.

Part of me wants them to take the opportunity to push people to switch to Linux, the other part of me thinks that will be perceived no differently from msft’s badgering about win11.

LocoLobo,

That would be quite the power move, but unfortunately Steam doesn’t hold that much power alone, I think. There are still enough games that are not on Steam. As of today , Microsoft is the biggest games publisher (with Bethesda, Blizzard, Obsidian, ID, Mojang etc. belonging to them) and there are also giants like LoL or Fortnite.

teawrecks,

It’s hard to say. I agree, it seems like the MAU data for each of League and Fortnite is roughly the same as MAU for all of Steam (which is nuts). Of course there’s no way to know how much overlap is there. Still, both of these titles would be a hard stop for people deciding whether to switch to Linux.

As for msft themselves though, ironically I don’t know what titles they have that keep players on windows. Battle.net works on Linux, Minecraft Java ed works on Linux (not sure about bedrock ed compatibility or player count, but afaik most of those players are on non-PC platforms), all their zenimax titles are sold through steam and work great on Linux. CoD might be their biggest hold.

I disagree on number of games, but I agree on player count. The number of PC games that are not on steam (or don’t work on linux) is tiny these days. But the number of PC gamers who don’t need steam, or need something that doesn’t run on linux is probably still quite high. Still, even if valve was able to push a few % of PC gamers to Linux, that would be huge. We’re currently at 2% on Linux in steam surveys. I could see a power move by valve around win10 eol bringing that closer to 10%.

LocoLobo,

Yeah that’s true, I think the biggest hurdle are games that use anticheat that don’t work on Linux, which are afaik usually multiplayer games. So they might be able to pull gamers, that only play Singleplayer games.

bloup,

This isn’t about people not wanting to use Windows 11 this is about people not wanting to purchase a new computer

Honytawk,

They don’t have to purchase anything if they just keep using an unsupported OS.

Most people don’t care enough to change.

Shayeta,

They are if they can’t afford a new computer.

JohnnyCanuck,
@JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca avatar

Windows 10 won’t just stop working. I still see businesses rocking Windows Vista occasionally.

teawrecks,

No one is trying to play games on those vista machines, though. Valve pulled steam support for win 7 and 8.1 over a year ago because they were EOL. If they also pull support from win 10 once it’s EOL, then people will need to make a change to keep playing their games. If msft refuse to support existing hardware with win11, then many people will be forced to choose between buying a new laptop/PC, or trying Linux.

Rose,

They won’t stop supporting 10 unless its use drops significantly. They’d not shoot themselves in the foot.

DokiDokiCT, do gaming w Let's hear both sides

I always make a point to at least look at a few of them. Sometimes it’s ragebait, but there have been a few times where the review has actually mentioned something that was a deal breaker for me.

DokiDokiCT, do gaming w Claire fuckin Redfield

Redfields are just straight up built different.

JakobFel, do gaming w Shower thought: Valve could do the ultimate boss-move this year
@JakobFel@retrolemmy.com avatar

That could be what they’re waiting for.

However, I do not believe SteamOS is going to be the silver bullet people think it is. I’m somewhat of a fanboy of Valve but SteamOS is really only good for a console-like PC experience.

People who want to ditch Windows need to look at Linux as a whole, not just SteamOS.

Michael Horn talks about this in greater detail: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4g1dZfF5KA

DeathsEmbrace,

If people want to ditch Windows then the gaming industry needs to stop gating the community. Either get rid of the shitty anti Linux anticheat or tell them to turn on Linux support naturally. For fucks sake I can’t believe I find out most anticheat just needs a simple email to turn it on for Linux.

JakobFel,
@JakobFel@retrolemmy.com avatar

I agree entirely. An argument could be made about native Linux releases being too much but most games run with Proton if the devs don’t intentionally cripple it through kernel anticheat or other arbitrary limitations.

QuadratureSurfer, (edited ) do games w Starting today, Heroic Games Launcher is indexing their Discord server

This is awesome! I hope more groups start doing this.
Edit: Are they using a script/tool for this, or are they manually copying over the questions and answers?

PerfectDark,
@PerfectDark@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve asked Linguin for you :)

answeroverflow provides everything just add it to the server and channels and it’s done

blomvik, do games w Steam Deck / Gaming News #15

Played the first demo of Gothic they released, an that felt very different from the original. Will have to check out the new one. But, for anyone interested, the original games are still great to play.

I finally finished the Witcher 3 after 10 weeks and 160 hours, and have since moved to my computer for System Shock 2. Still early in the game, but it’s really different from Nightdives remake of SS1.

kinther, do games w Steam Deck / Gaming News #15
@kinther@lemmy.world avatar

Thank you for your posts. I find them great to read over coffee and it really helps me stay informed!

PerfectDark,
@PerfectDark@lemmy.world avatar

You had me at ‘coffee’!!!

arakhis_, do games w Steam Deck / Gaming News #15
@arakhis_@feddit.org avatar

why is the whole post expanded in my thread, like i need to scroll 30 minutes to get past it LMAO

PerfectDark,
@PerfectDark@lemmy.world avatar

That’s odd!

Not my doing, must be something to do with your instance? Perhaps? Has it stopped now? I hope it has, because my posts as you pointed out…they’re not short ones!

harcesz, do zapytajszmer w Płatność NFC po roocie
!deleted269 avatar

Nic nie wiem, ale jestem ciekaw i o pół kroku od noszenia dwóch telefonów…

lemmur,

Nie lepiej nosić kartę?

harcesz,
!deleted269 avatar

Karta jest jednej z amerykańskich korporacji, blik lokalny 🤪

BuboScandiacus, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of May 11th
@BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz avatar

Stardew.

I’m tired boss

CountCorvinus, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of May 11th
@CountCorvinus@beehaw.org avatar

Fallout 76 has a new springtime event so I’ve been playing that a lot. Little bit of the Oblivion remaster. Started Cabernet.

Poopfeast420, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of May 11th
@Poopfeast420@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Decided to give Overwatch 2 a shot, until the new Doom is out.

First time playing OW in a couple of years, just doing normal 5v5 Quick Play, and it’s been fun. Mostly Tank and Support, but occasionally the Matchmaking Algorithm graces me with a DPS game. Current favorite heroes: Hazard and Orisa for Tank, Brigitte and Juno for Healer, and Venture for DPS.

After I’m done with Doom, I’ll take a look at Stadium, the new game mode that was added to OW recently.

saigot,

I have a conspiracy theory that the game tracks your total playtime and rewards people who play a lot of support and tank with better dps queues. I mostly play support, but if I queue as both Support and DPS I will almost always get a DPS game, last night I got 8 games in a row as DPS.

Poopfeast420,
@Poopfeast420@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

These past couple of days, I’ve been always queuing flex and I got 5x DPS in 60+ games, including one in the final 10s of a loss, where I didn’t even make it to the point.

It doesn’t really bother me, I like Tank and Support, and since Blizzard added a bunch of them when OW2 came out, so there’s still a lot to try and learn.

mrodri89,

This is my game of choice. If you ever get a chance and want to laugh go to custom games and try out 12 hogs 1 hole.

Poopfeast420,
@Poopfeast420@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

That one at the Illios Well? I know that one and have played it a few times in the past.

mrodri89,

Yeah it’s hilarious. I was on an edible the last time I played it and was cracking up.

BmeBenji, do gaming w Shower thought: Valve could do the ultimate boss-move this year

I see all of these “Why SteamOS and why not another distro?” comments and it kinda blows me away how much the idea of approachability designed by a trusted name seems like a foreign concept here.

Then again, we’re talking about Linux fanatics who probably also argue over whether emacs, vim, or vi are the best text editor lol

ReversalHatchery,

real linux users don’t need a graphical session!!! everything can and should be done on the terminal!

/s

BmeBenji,

I love running Elden Ring in the terminal. Hells yeah, foul tarnished

ReversalHatchery,

the ASCII graphics are stunning, aren’t they?

mic_check_one_two,

You guys are getting graphics? Mine is just a Matrix-style series of special characters.

SkaveRat,

That’s called dwarf fortress

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@pawb.social avatar

VIM is the best because once you try it you are unable to quit.

BmeBenji,

Just like meth! :D

RisingSwell,

I keep seeing this, is it actually hard to close? Surely Linux has a version of alt f4, does that also fail?

arsCynic, (edited )

Alt + F4 does not fail to quit the terminal window where Vim is running in if that shortcut is configured so. But if that terminal has other things going on in it, they’ll be closed as well. It’s like demolishing a house to undo some text written on a fridge note, albeit exaggerated.
If Vim is not running in a terminal window, then that shortcut will indeed fail and users without knowledge of the commands below become stuck, sometimes to the point of a hard reboot.

Vim Cheat Sheet

:wq or :x or ZZ - write (save) and quit
:q - quit (fails if there are unsaved changes)
:q! or ZQ - quit and throw away unsaved changes
:wqa - write (save) and quit on all tabs

✍︎ arscyni.cc: modernity ∝ nature.

superkret,

It’s actually ed .

dbtng,
@dbtng@eviltoast.org avatar

Those editors are toys. Use something with real power. Use nano.

zerofk,

edlin or bust

zod000,

Nano’s a knockoff, use pico.

dbtng,
@dbtng@eviltoast.org avatar

Nano is the one true fork.

trashboat, do games w Steam Deck / Gaming News #15
@trashboat@midwest.social avatar

Just finished playing Outer Wilds for the first time- definitely one of the most incredible games I’ve ever played

Katana314, do gaming w Claire fuckin Redfield

What I absolutely love is the specific, mysterious revelation of “How is he doing this, this shouldn’t be possible”.

Spec Ops: The Line touches this a little bit - with some actions and messages leaning toward incredulity that 3 soldiers have been destroying an entire battalion.
The movie Willie’s Wonderland also aims for this. The lite mystery is how the animatronics became possessed, but the big mystery is who/what the hell the Janitor that wandered into town is.
On a similar note, you get a bit of that feel in Half-Life 2 from Dr. Breen’s angry message to the Nova Prospekt soldiers for them missing you at Black Mesa East; “This is not some agent provocateur or highly-trained assassin!! Gordon Freeman is a theoretical physicist!”

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