How can you say that when they haven’t made a game in a decade? Its like saying the beetles are culturally irrelevant. GTA continues to influence other games and is relevant to society even if they never made another game. I think fortnite is a dumb capitalist nothing game but I can’t deny it’s relevance.
Eh, each game had a very different feel. I didn’t play GTA 1 or 2, so I’ll start after that point:
GTA III - caricatures the mafia and the FBI, but otherwise is somewhat light on satire (good setup for the franchise though)
GTA VC - lots of satire about the 70s and mafia in Miami
GTA SA - lots of satire about a wide range of topics, from 90s gang culture to the burgeoning tech scene in San Francisco
GTA IV - lots of statements about the immigrant experience, with satire along the way
GTA V - satire about middle class life in LA, the excitement of tech getting stale and turning bad, etc
Each has a fair amount of satire and something to say about the world, I just found GTA V a lot less interesting than previous titles. GTA IV is my favorite for a playthrough, GTA SA is a close second (I love exploring SA).
So far we’ve gotten good single player games along with those online modes, including RDR2 after GTA5, so it’s at least plausible that GTA6 will have good single player still.
Won’t be playing it until it’s on PC anyways, so I’ll for sure have found out by then.
You’re right! But the hype exists. It will reach peak for the four months post the launch, creating fomo. Peer pressure with such launches are a human problem
I get it’s a massive franchise, like Madden or Call of Duty… don’t buy those either.
whew, I’m trying to understand your comment, but this is kinda coming off pretty…holier-than-thou? Which, I do get that because I can find myself like that with movies/tv, but still…we gotta let people like what they like.
In this case though, I honestly think this is a pretty terrible comparison. Madden and CoD don’t have massive single player appeal that GTA or RDR have. They are total schlock in that regard (though, I hear CoD’s recent campaigns are actually good).
GTA and RDR on the other hand very skillfully mix elements of RPG, immersive sim, and adventure game. They’re huge sandboxes for the player to explore and discover new things, within which are nestled very well written stories that critique modern life and touch upon themes that, yes, you could find them in various indie games if you look a bit, but are somewhat unique in the blockbuster gamescape. It’s difficult to find other single player games with the scope of Rockstar games, though I think it is getting easier.
But comparing GTA to Madden or CoD is kinda whack unless you’re looking at GTA Online in isolation.
Still, there’s very little overlap in GTA Online and Madden/COD. GTA Online is still very much sandbox-y, caters somewhat well to playing alone, and has a team gameplay loop. People tend to play this periodically but probably don’t have it be their main/only game.
Madden and COD are both highly competitive games with pretty much no sandbox, and their appeal is pretty limited after a couple years when the next one comes out. People tend to stick to these franchises as their main game, playing very little else.
The main similarity is that they’re AAA games, but that’s really it.
I think GTA online could be compared to Madden and CoD in that they all have aggressive(-ly lame) monetization tactics. But the way jordanlund frames it (sorry jordan, I don’t mean to rag on you – like I said, I can also be like this) sounds more to me like a “i only listen to artists with less than 1000 monthly listeners” type of statement
Jordanlund’s comment could be read/interpreted that way sure, but personally I read it more as “yes gta is a big/popular/genre-defining game, but not my cup of tea” kind of vibe.
I have played and enjoyed previous gta titles, but I myself am partial to slower more thoughtful games like Baldur’s Gate (I suspect same could be said for jordanlund as well).
For sure for sure. I definitely read it that way, in part, because I have to consciously remind myself that my taste is my own and I should try not to dismiss people who like their art to be more…palatable, i guess? Because I have the capacity to be that guy, unfortunately. So I try to watch a blockbuster every once in a while, so to speak.
I think it was probably the comparison between GTA and Madden and CoD that threw me, because they have almost no similarities besides being AAA.
Their comment kinda reminded me of how the Kingdom Come: Deliverance fandom can be. I mean, I fucking love KCD and KCD2, they’re two of the best games I’ve ever played. They can slow AF though, and frustrating at times. But whenever someone mentions that, or that they didn’t like it, someone else invariably comes along and completely dismisses their opinion, like “You just don’t understand it,” or “Maybe you just don’t have the attention span to really immerse yourself.” It’s like dude, you don’t need to make someone feel bad for not liking a game.
Wow, I gave you a lot of benefit of the doubt in my comments, but you’re really out here to just denigrate other people’s tastes, aren’t you? How refined, how cultured your game library must be. How sweet your shit must smell. How does it feel up there, where you’ll never touch a game frequented by us Dorito-eaters and us Mountain-Dew-drinkers? Feels good, huh? Feels better.
I enjoy it, I don‘t (allegedly) 100 bucks enjoy it though. I‘ll wait for a few years and grab it on sale. And ngl, I‘ve grown pretty tired of triple digit playtime games anyway.
I’ll still want it, I’ll feel a strong sense of FOMO if I don’t, but I don’t really care any more. After seeing how much money GTAO was making I strongly suspect they’ll put a lot more focus on that. In my opinion gta online sucked a lot of ass. It was fun as a playground to hang around with friends in, but as an actual game I’d rather we’d have agreed on any other game to play. I would never load it up to play by myself.
I hope I’m wrong and the story mode slaps, but at the super-premium price it’s going to end up costing i won’t justify it.
Rumors are that they want to charge $100 and they’re sitting back to see the financial climate with the price increases to see if consumers will bend over and take it without any pushback
Or…switch 2 version taking longer than Expected…
OR. they’re seeing the writing on the wall for the console industry and they’re going to release VI for all platforms (PC included) next year
My guess would be they’ll do some kind of tiered release strucructure, and/or have already finished or mostly finished 2 years+ worth of major updates, including new ‘chapters’ of the main single player story… and basically, you’ll have to subscribe.
Like … $160 for whole game, major expansion 1, 2 and 3, $120 for game + 1st expansion… Or your baseline $100, and then a subscription battlepass mmo monthly charge, or you can pay more for expansions in chunks, seperately.
Speaking out of my ass, I think the majority will take it without pushback.
I’m sure there’s a swath of people with a console just play the yearly COD/FIFA, eagerly waiting for GTA 6 to drop. They’ll buy it without blinking.
I wonder if the next one will take so long that the world it satirises is long gone. Facebook being parodied in GTA V no longer makes much sense, for example
I hope they have at least two cities like Miami (beaches and organized crime) and Orlando (Disney and big business). Could be cool to have a three like SA to add in either Daytona (racing and rednecks) or Tampa (ghetto Miami).
… Untill Florida gets absolutely wiped out by a combo of its housing market and tourism economy simultaneously eating shit (this is currently occuring), and then also gets slammed by a, oh i dunno, a series of near record breaking hurricanes … in a record breaking short amount of time, and then can’t rebuild because FEMA either doesn’t exist or is massively underfunded.
Oh and way more people will die, and there will be way more property damage than there otherwise would be… becauase all the agencies and funding that went into tracking hurricanes just got cut to almoat nothing.
Its been … what, over a decade, between GTA V and 6’s planned releaae date?
I’d say that chances are actually quite good that within 10 years after 2026, Florida becomes essentially a mostly destroyed disaster zone, with maybe a few parts of semi-civilization… like a swampy version of the first Mad Max movie.
(For reference, GTA V is based on an amalgamation of LA, San Fran, San Diego, out into the sticks… oh and while we are in thr GTA V to GTA VI gap, a huge chunk of LA got burned to the ground, yay climate change!)
(To me, the challenge of GTA VI would be… how do you even fucking do parody anymore? The country has gone batshit insane during the game’s development, I will be amazed if they actually manage to work in the biting and underhanded social commentary that previous GTA games had… because it would be essentially impossible. My guess is it’ll have some parody and satire, but nowhere near as much as 4 or 5… and the story will basically just be about some cool badasses who are cool and badass and are getting their bag however they can because YOLO)
After looking at the jokes featured in the leaks…it hasn’t aged a day.
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GB is personality driven, when Alex, Vinny and Brad left, it already felt like a shift to the end. When Gerstmann was let go, GB really seemed doomed.
Fandom dictating what they can and cannot do when the site relies on their personalities and free form content just shows they don’t want the brand or people.
I really love Nextlander. I like fire escape. I miss Gerstmann, but I don’t want to listen to a solo podcast.
Yeah I loved Giant Bomb back in the day, but it was all about the people. With Vinny, Brad, Alex, and Jeff gone I just moved on to their new projects and stopped paying attention to Giant Bomb. Nowadays Giant Bomb is just a name to me.
I am absolutely in the same boat. I would love to listen to Jeff as well and every time he has a guest on I make sure to grab the podcast, but I can’t listen to one person podcasts. He absolutely needs a co-host or guests every week.
Damn, for me Jeff, Dan and Mitch/Mike formed the new nucleus and were quite entertaining.
Usually I am open to change, when it comes from a creative directive. However Giant Bomb seems increasingly to be jerked around by corporate interests in faster intervals. I have doubt’s that GB will keep its identity and not just be a name.
It might end up just being a name for game guides, which sucks, but that core nucleus will still be doing Blight Club in some capacity, and Jeff will still do his news show. I think the same thing will live on by another name, just like the old school lives on in Next Lander and Gerstmann’s solo thing.
OP, please do us a favor of titling post with the true thesis of the article, and not their disingenuous headlines. E.g.
Ziff Davis, Inc. $ZD has contracts with $NTDOY & ¥7974.T that it selected three people to blurb out things that aligns with their portfolios:
Stephen Kick, CEO of Nightdive Studios (which specialises in modern remasters of older, often out-of-print games) said that “seeing Nintendo do this is a little disheartening”, adding: “You would hope that a company that big, that has such a storied history, would take preservation a little more seriously.”
Videogame Heritage Society co-founder Professor James Newman is somewhat less convinced that Game-Key Cards will be a major issue, noting that it’s rare for a game on a cartridge to still be the same game years after release.
“Even when a cartridge does contain data on day one of release, games are so often patched, updated and expanded through downloads that the cart very often loses its connection to the game, and functions more like a physical copy protection dongle for a digital object,” he explained.
Meanwhile, Paul Dyson, director of the International Center for the History of Electronic Games at The Strong Museum in New York said the move to a future where all games are digital is “inevitable”, and that Nintendo has in fact been “in some ways, the slowest of the major console producers to be going there”.
Giant Bomb deserves more than a thread hanging off the Polygon story post. I don’t think it’s ever looked nearly this dire.
I don’t remember exactly how I stumbled across GB, but I think it came up randomly during TheSpeedGamers Final Fantasy marathon in 2009 (which was the inspiration for the first GDQ marathon in 2010). They weren’t necessarily the first to do the very personality-focused, video heavy, gaming coverage, but they definitely went at it the hardest and with the fewest fucks given about doing anything the “right” way. I’ve spent over 16 years now following the site and the people that have come through it, the Giant Bomb Extended Universe. I couldn’t possibly quantify the impact they’ve had on me over the years. It may not technically be the end but I don’t see a path forward from here.
Giant Bomb deserves more than a thread hanging off the Polygon story post.
Agreed. Giant Bomb pioneered so much in games media, and for it to end like that is such a shame.
As far as I am concerned, the GB I loved was already struggling after Alex, Brad and Vinny left ; and it ended for good when Jeff Gerstmann was fired abruptly (again !). This news still saddens me however, and I wonder what will be the legacy of GB down the road.
Without knowing anything (beyond what’s said in the article) about Giant Bomb, I’d assume it’s the same path forward as when the F-word fucked up Gamepedia beyond all recognition. Find alternatives. In the case of Gamepedia other wiki hosting services, like Miraheze and wiki.gg, and more independently-hosted wikis. And some of the wiki.gg admins were Gamepedia admins, as far as I’m aware - it sounds like a similar restart may well end up being the case here too.
It sucks, especially because the F-word is good at search-engine optimisation, but it’s not the end.
Even going back to the 90s video game magazines and their reviews were ragged on as marketing material for publishers but there was still some semblance of reverence over the years for the big magazines and websites (IGN and Gamespot. Maybe 1Up). After the Kane and Lynch Gamespot review fiasco, that to me was when gamer internet discourse over game journalism tanked to ever worsening hostility towards games reporters/journalist.
That Kane and Lynch review scandal tanked Gamespots reputation. That was probably also the era of making fun of the game awards guy as the Dorito/Mountain Dew Pope with that Spike TV video game award show
The ~2010’s, official game review scandal which all big videogame influencers like IGN, G4tv, Gamespot etc… (this was before instagram and tiktok) got bribed by corporations so the aftermath of that was splintergroups of indie review sites like GiantBomb. And so let’s plays got born. Still never trusting triple-A game marketing ever again
The ~2010’s, official game review scandal which all big videogame influencers like IGN, G4tv, Gamespot etc… (this was before instagram and tiktok) got bribed by corporations
Got any sources for that? Unless you think advertisement are bribes, this didn’t happen.
Jeff was fired because he didn’t want to change his low score for a Kane & Lynch game, after Gamespot was pressured by the publisher, who was running some huge ads on Gamespot. He also said that usually this doesn’t happen, because the review side and marketing on these big sites are completely separate, and the reviewers don’t hear of these complaints. In his case however, Gamespot had new execs, who got cold feet, and caved. They left shortly after.
I have never heard of anything else like this happening, except from angry fanboys, that think reviewers are on the take, when Zelda gets an 8.8.
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