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SnotFlickerman, do games w Square Enix’s president says it will be ‘aggressive in applying’ AI
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Welp, it’s officially a hype bubble like cryptocurrency/NFTs.

the_q,

Unfortunately AI’s impact is real. This isn’t a hype thing; this is a people losing their jobs thing

SnotFlickerman, (edited )
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I mean, it is and it isn’t. On one hand, yes people will probably lose their jobs with these tools supposed to filled the gaps.

But that doesn’t mean the AI tools are actually anywhere near as competent as a human, and it will result in watered-down, anodyne, and to be more blunt, just boring art and writing.

Corporate will use the tools because they’re “good enough,” but we all know they’re really not good enough. They’re just one more way to cut costs at the expense of user experience and employee workload (the employees that are left being expected to do more work).

scrubbles,
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Bingo. AI is shockingly good at building simple things, helping with direct questions about items. It cannot replace humans in its current state.

At this point it’s CEO bluster just like the blockchain, where the suits are talking about technology like they personally handcrafted it while the actual engineers are sitting in the back of the room thinking “uh, there’s no way it can do that”.

I think we’re going to see a couple hilarious cycles of some shit thinks they can replace humans with AI, fail spectacularly, and then quietly go back.

SnotFlickerman,
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I honestly don’t think they’ll even quietly go back. It’s clear “customer service” is becoming something that isn’t considered a return on value, so they’re shutting them down all over. Customer service will be the number one thing replaced with AI and they won’t go back on that.

Customer service for the last 20-30 years has absolutely been nothing but a shield for corporations to hide behind while screwing their customers. Low paid phone jockeys have to deal with people furious at being fucked over by conglomerates like Comcast. There is no way to contact anyone further up the chain, and that is deeply purposeful.

They record all the phone calls, but they refuse to learn anything that benefits the customer from them. All they do is deploy psychological tricks to try to get the customer to be happy while not actually rectifying the problem. It’s always a purposeful half-measure that has been deeply researched to calm people down and accept the big unlubed dildo in their ass like they should.

So yeah, the “customer service voice” will be long gone to be replaced with increasing shitty “customer service AI” with no human to talk to, and if you get lost in the shuffle and put in a digital black hole, well, “go fuck yourself” is clearly what they’ll be telling you. They already pretty much do this (especially Google) but it will become increasingly pronounced and difficult.

Clawing back anything that corporations have stolen from you will increasingly become an exercise in total futility as you’re stuck in an endless AI loop that refuses to give you options that actually address your issue.

kromem,

You do realize it isn’t staying the same, right?

There is no status quo with AI.

It’s within literal months that leaps are occurring that defy most expert expectations and predictions.

While yes, creative writing is not part of the target of where models are improving right now (and there are IMO clear mistakes being made with foundational models contributing to that poor performance), we’re probably less than one dev cycle from the best AI outperforming an above average video game writer with institutional integration of the models.

And really, people thinking this is going to put writers out of business are missing the true value add for publishers.

You’ll see the same amount of writers as before. What will change is the amount of writing.

Being able to have a core writing team do the normal work they do of writing out main and side quests and then feeding all that writing into a model spitting out side NPC dialogue fitting in with the events taking place allows developers to make their world come alive in ways previously only accessible to the largest budgets in the industry like RDR2.

This also allows games that are successful to transition into more of a live service product without needing to have a massive audience.

For most live service games, you need as many people as possible playing to justify dedicating resources to continued development, or you need a subscription fee. But niche products with a dedicated fan base which aren’t overly popular are too small to justify continuous content development.

With AI that equation changes. More games have the opportunity to keep players engaged longer for continuing adventures when a smaller team can use generative systems to flesh out the product.

Everyone praises No Man’s Sky for their continued development with a team of about a dozen putting more and more content out, but the other side of the coin is that they can only successfully deliver updates that feel weighty because they are leveraging procgen to extend their efforts.

Imagine the next version of FF online where not only is there a core main story everyone experiences, but there are also individualized stories woven into it that are shaped around your interactions. Where every NPC can be spoken to and any one of them might lead to your next individualized adventure. A world that feels at once epic and shared with millions of other players while also personal and unique just for you.

Even if the individual writing wasn’t as planned out as world event scenario writing from lead writers, I’d sure as hell prefer to spend $16/mo on a world with little repetition and endless adventures than a world that only has a hundred hours of story every year and is mostly running the same things over and over in between waiting for small bursts of content updates.

AI makes perfect sense for any live service provider, and Square Enix has one of the most successful live service products to date. Of course they are going to be investing into it as it rapidly improves.

dangblingus,

Live service games are shite and you shouldn’t be looking for excuses to play them.

dangblingus,

For every job that AI kills, you need at least 2 techs to train the AI. This isn’t meant to say “go get a job as an AI tech if you’re worried about job security” it’s more of a “businesses will see the obvious lack of ROI and vision and refuse to implement it”.

Aurix,

Which is also what the last CEO of Square Enix rode on. This is either investor appeasement or indeed improvement of quality with these tools or, and far more likely both buzzwords and producing crap to cut costs.

loobkoob,

It absolutely is. Although, putting aside the obvious ethical debates, I will say that least AI has some practical uses. Crypto-currency and NFTs felt a lot like a solution looking for a problem, and while that can be true of some implementations of AI, there are a lot of valid uses for it.

But yeah, companies rushing to use AI like this, and making statements like this, just screams that they're trying to persuade investors they're "ahead of the curve", and is absolutely indicative of a hype bubble. If it wasn't a hype bubble, they'd either be quietly exploring it externally and not putting out statements like this, or they're be putting out statements excitedly talking specifics about their novel and clever implementations of AI.

Tronn4, do games w Square Enix’s president says it will be ‘aggressive in applying’ AI

I rwas this as them saying they’ll be cutting jobs left and right using an AI based solution to keep more profits for the top instead of making game characters smarter

mcc,

Where did you get the sense SE is like that? Or their new CEO operates that way?

ekZepp, do games w Square Enix’s president says it will be ‘aggressive in applying’ AI
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HowManyNimons, do games w Square Enix’s president says it will be ‘aggressive in applying’ AI

Ha ha ha this dumb chord.

Fizz, do games w Square Enix’s president says it will be ‘aggressive in applying’ AI
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

Just when I thought their games couldn’t be any worse

Carighan, do games w Square Enix’s president says it will be ‘aggressive in applying’ AI
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

I wish they’d aggressively apply it to replacing middle-top management. The jobs that don’t add anything except a lot of money being siphoned off, anyways.

Quetzalcutlass,

I welcome our robot middle-lords.

dumpsterlid, do games w Square Enix’s president says it will be ‘aggressive in applying’ AI

Hmm do y’all still believe the video game industry needed to make cuts and fire workers to the degree they did this year because of overshooting growth with covid? Yes I am sure it is part of it but why is nobody talking about the AI elephant in the room. The video game industry is in the midst of trying to strong arm workers into accepting a fundamental reduction in their quality of life because they can use the threat of replacing workers with AI. It doesn’t matter if it actually works to replace workers with AI, it only matters that it appears fairly plausible for it to pay off for massive companies trying to extract every bit of profit from video games they can.

Templa, do gaming w VGC’s Platform of the Year is Nintendo Switch

The platform I played the most this year was the Switch. My local library is blessed with a catalogue of physical games, including new titles such as ToTK, Pikmin 4, etc. There’s obviously a considerable wait list, but I’m so glad it exists.

I just wish the Switch had achievements. 🥲

BmeBenji, do gaming w VGC’s Platform of the Year is Nintendo Switch

They listed reasons why the PS5 and XboS were not the platform of the year, but nothing about the Steam Deck. It seems like the reason they claimed the Switch was the platform of the year was due to exclusives, so I suppose if that’s their only metric I guess the Switch wins out by a longshot. But I gotta say in any other metric except maybe raw usability (due to some UI bugs) the Deck wins against all other current platforms.

lud,

My main problem with the steam deck is probably portability and battery life. I have used it very seldom on the train to work, but I imagine it would be very cumbersome.

I will try it again when I am finally done with TOTK on my switch.

And then there is always the question: Is the steam deck really an unique gaming platform when it’s really just a small laptop.

alcyoneous,

I even find the Switch a bit too cumbersome for transit use! The PSP was the perfect size for me, but a modern version would be too underpowered for everything nowadays I guess.

BmeBenji,

If you ask me, the Steam Deck’s battery is its biggest weakness, however it completely depends on what you’re playing. I can play Cyberpunk 2077 on the Steam Deck graphics preset for roughly 90 minutes but I played Arkham Knight for 30 minutes and lost only 10% of the battery. Dead Cells takes only 5% in 30 minutes. That is to say battery life is completely dependent on the game you choose to play, but at least you have the choice, whereas many crossplatform AAA games just aren’t on the Switch.

The portability difference is also notable. The Deck is a chonky boi, though imo it’s not as big a difference as some people would say. They both fit well in a backpack.

However, I completely disagree with you saying that the Deck isn’t a new platform. Nothing has existed like the Deck before because yes, it’s a gaming laptop that’s dramatically more portable and more gaming-oriented than any gaming laptop ever before. The control options alone make it the best controller ever invented (here’s hoping for a Steam Controller 2.0) and the flexibility to plug anything in via that USB C connector is fabulous.

Sharing my Steam library between my PC and my Steam Deck is just the icing on the gravy.

sparky678348,

Love love loved my steam controller. I wish I bought 50 when they were 5 bucks.

The deck doesn’t feel right in my hands, im glad I was able to sit down and use one before I spent the money.

I would love a Steam Controller 2.0, or even just another run of the original.

BmeBenji,

I still use my Steam Controller fairly regularly. It’s so handy and I love the dual track pads.

I really want a 2.0 because as much as I love the trackpads, having only one stick for something like a driving game just doesn’t work well. I also can’t get over how nice it is being able to have a full 16-button controller PLUS buttons that can invoke keyboard shortcuts like alt-tab or move the mouse if focus gets lost or something.

I’m surprised you don’t like the feel of the Deck. It’s honestly the most comfortable any controller has felt sitting in my hands. It beats the ergonomics of the Switch by a mile too

sparky678348,

Something about the travel of the analog sticks was immediately and immensely off putting to me. Not the feel of the plastic surface that your thumbs rest on, but the physical feedback of moving the sticks.

I dunno it’s parhaps a nitpick but I went from ‘holy shit I need this’ to ‘eh it’s a cool device’ within 30 minutes of play time.

BmeBenji,

Lol I can respect that. Everyone’s got their preferences.

I do think it’s funny that at first I was like “eh, it’s cool” then I bought into the hype, got one, and touched it maybe a dozen times the first year I had it. But now the more I use it the more I fall in love lol

baconicsynergy,

The Steam Deck really is a very unique gaming platform. The Proton compatibility layer is a work of art. Crossover, Valve, and the WINE community should all be regarded as gaming heroes. I can play so many games on my Steam Deck that I never would’ve thought possible 5 years ago.

Being able to add your own external or custom games to your library, and still being able to make custom controls for those games, is just pure joy.

What’s really exciting is seeing the constant flow of games go from unverified to verified. It just keeps getting better.

The best part about the Steam Deck one might argue is being able to install ANY operating system you want on this thing. Want to play Destiny 2 and Fortnite really badly? You have the nuclear option of installing Windows. Want to take Linux gaming to the next level? Install Bazzite. Its up to you. YOU are in control.

Sorry, I just really wanted to speak my 2 cents about how much I love the Steam Deck. I hope I made some salient points.

sim_,

Akin to portability, the Steam Deck’s sheer weight is a factor even when it doesn’t leave the house. The SD will sometimes give me strain in my hands or wrists while the switch feels like a feather in comparison. If a game is on both steam and the nintendo eshop, I usually will get it for the switch.

I love my SD a lot, but battery life and weight are influential in a handheld for me.

LoamImprovement,

I take my Deck with me when I travel. The case is a little on the larger side, but it fits in a backpack under a plane seat. I do tend to have the opposite problem with the switch though, my hands cramp up because the joycon grips are so small. Battery life is an issue though, I can get maybe 3 hours out of it if the plane doesn’t have an outlet.

It is a little hard to call the Deck a platform on its own because the library is all borrowed from an existing client and Valve doesn’t really make games anymore, but for people who have a PC library or are looking to start one and don’t necessarily have the money to throw at a whole gaming PC, the Deck is a solid choice for something portable-yet-powerful - it’s good enough to run Elden Ring pretty stable. It’s also really good for gen 6 and older emulation, both because the hardware is capable and because Valve doesn’t give a fuck what you do with it.

delitomatoes,

I can’t buy the deck in my country, you can buy the rest almost everywhere in the world

BmeBenji,

Touche. “Can I buy it” is a pretty important metric.

lowleveldata,

Exclusives is the only meaningful metric for consoles. PC is superior in every other metrics.

Toribor,
@Toribor@corndog.social avatar

Don’t tell Nintendo, but I play Switch games on my PC and Steam Deck anyway.

lowleveldata,

Sorry bro. I am Nintendo.

LoamImprovement,

It’s true.

Source: I’m the uncle who works for him.

Jinxyface,

It seems like the reason they claimed the Switch was the platform of the year was due to exclusives, so I suppose if that’s their only metric I guess the Switch wins out by a longshot.

Steam Deck, being a PC and all, has more "exclusives" than every single currently sold console combined by an enourmous margin.

But naturally by 'exclusives' they mean hugely funded "AAA" games from Nintendo or Sony or Micrsosoft.

Coelacanth, do games w Max Payne voice actor James McCaffrey has passed away
@Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

This one hit hard, he was truly iconic. I haven’t played Max Payne 1 or 2 for decades but I still remember his performance vividly. I wonder what will happen now with both Alan Wake 2 DLCs and the Max Payne remake on the horizon.

MIDItheKID,

Maybe they will have him voiced by the real Max Payne - Mark Wahlburg

/s

runjun, do games w Max Payne voice actor James McCaffrey has passed away

Oh damn 😞

A truly iconic voice performance that will remain in gaming history.

9715698,

Definitely up there with Michael Ironside as Sam Fisher for me as irreplaceable performances in videogames.

Coelacanth,
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I was so happy he got to return for that Ghost Recon cameo. I was pissed at Ubisoft for a while for replacing him for Blacklist, but then it turned out he couldn’t do it for health reasons and just wanted to keep it hush-hush.

I’m glad he’s doing better now, can’t believe he beat three different cancers.

LemmynySnicket, do games w Max Payne voice actor James McCaffrey has passed away

Well at least he is no longer in pain.

ConstableJelly, do games w Max Payne voice actor James McCaffrey has passed away

One of the earliest pieces of media I can remember consuming was the mid-90s TV show Viper, where James played the main character. I remember very little about the show except James's face and that he played his character cool as fuck.

I've been replaying Alan Wake and Control recently, and I have such a soft spot for his roles in them because I loved that stupid show when I was a kid.

kamenlady,
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I rewatched Viper a few months ago, it’s on Pluto for free. For the first time since it aired in the 90s. I didn’t remember that he only did the first 2 seasons. I also only rewatched the 2 seasons he is in, since he was essential for this show. I may have dropped it also, when it aired that’s why i forgot it had more seasons.

Still cool as fuck, including the sparkling gloriousness of the 90s.

RIP

money_loo, do games w Max Payne voice actor James McCaffrey has passed away

Well this sucks.

Loved this dudes contributions to the genre.

spacedogroy, do gaming w VGC’s Platform of the Year is Nintendo Switch

I know it’s vastly underpowered compared to even the Xbox Series S but I still think there’s something magical about the way you can have these fully fledged gaming experiences in front of your TV or in your hands while on holiday using the same hardware. Of all the consoles I’ve owned, it’s probably my favourite.

bbbhltz,
@bbbhltz@beehaw.org avatar

I only just picked one up a week or two ago. I was always a Nintendo person… Then an ex wanted to get an Xbox 360 to play Rock Band or something so I was stuck with that for a bit, then my partner wanted a PS4 to play Crash Bandicoot when it was only on PS4 so I’ve had that for years. I was completely ignorant to the ease of the Switch. Underpowered? Whatever! It is quiet, it is small, and that OLED screen is gorgeous.

The sun is setting for the Switch, but at least I’ll get to experience it before it is fully retired.

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