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TwilightVulpine, do gaming w Xbox boss says current-gen console prices ‘won’t come down’ like they used to | VGC

I've been feeling like console generations don't need to come as often as they do now and this only strenghtens my view. Rather than making new consoles as tech evolves, since we are facing diminishing returns, they are making them larger and more expensive. Given how the economy is, and how much people can afford, if they expect to keep making future consoles increasingly more expensive, they'll find quickly that there is a limit to how much people are willing to pay for an entertainment device.

Not to mention that the production costs to keep up with the graphics potential of these extremely powerful consoles are also increasingly unsustainable. It's time to focus on game design above anything else.

ptsdstillinmymind,

They are following the Apple playbook. Put out a new system every 2 years and eventually will find some arbitrary ways to force users to upgrade.

TwilightVulpine,

I don't think that is going to work as well for consoles as it does for phones. People can just keep playing older games. Living in a third-world country I know that too well. And if they try to sabotage the consoles, that might drive people away from console gaming entirely.

MJBrune,

The inner generation consoles aren’t marketed to those who already own that generation. So the console cycle is still over every 7 years or so.

phillaholic,

Apple doesn’t force you to upgrade. They have the longest support length in mobile. What they are fantastic at is convincing you that you need to upgrade.

ptsdstillinmymind,

Don’t they stop giving updates to slightly older devices. Also, I read reports of them slowing down older models as an incentive to upgrade. Late Stage Capitalism

phillaholic,

They of course stop updating old devices. The 5 year old iPhone XR is getting updated to iOS 17 this month, and they are still putting out security updates to the 9 year old iPhone 5S.

They started limiting the CPU clock on older devices that had poor batteries in situations where it would try to draw more power than the battery could maintain. Identical devices with good batteries were not slowed down. Literally the opposite of planned obsolescence, but they failed to communicate what was happening which very likely lead people to buy new phones instead of getting their batteries replaced. At that time I had an iPhone for personal use and a Galaxy S5 for work. The S5 started doing the exact thing that Apple prevented when my battery started wearing out and random apps would crash the phone. However, unlike Apple where I could pay them $99 to fix it, Samsung and Verizon essentially told me to go pound sand and wouldn’t even sell us an official battery. We resorted to buying some sketchy thing off Amazon that never seemed to be as good. Kinda funny how Apple got all the hate, yet Samsung was the one that let me down.

Kichae,

New consoles don't come out in response to new technology, though. They never have. The next console generation comes when people stop buying the last one.

TwilightVulpine,

They still need a reason for people to buy them. The usual one being "look how much prettier it is!", but they are getting to a point the leaps of graphical fidelity enabled by technology are smaller and smaller, but the costs of making everything higher definition are skyrocketing.

Caligvla, do gaming w Tencent is bringing back military FPS series Delta Force | VGC
@Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Now that’s a name I haven’t heard in forever.

maynarkh,

I’m a huge fan of the originals, still boot Black Hawk Down up from time to time.

Judging from the trailer, this is not a reboot of the series, but a Battlefield 2042 / Call of Duty mashup multiplayer hero shooter. Except I guess less polished. Kinda bummed out to see the owners of the IP use it for such a blatant trend chasing cash grab.

Aielman15, do games w The Xbox 360 Store is closing next year | VGC
@Aielman15@lemmy.world avatar

Can I still play my Xbox 360 games after July 2024?

Yes, you will still be able to play the games you purchased on Xbox 360. If you purchased the game digitally or have a physical disc, you can still jump in and play. If you’ve deleted a game that you have purchased, but you want to play again, you’ll still be able to re-download it.

What about multiplayer games via the Xbox network? Can I still play with my friends?

Yes. Even after July 2024, you will still be able to play games and connect with friends through multiplayer on the games you purchased, as long as the publisher still supports the online servers. You can still save your games and progress to the cloud, and if you choose to continue any of those available games on Xbox One or Xbox Series X|S, those cloud saves will transfer over.

Can I still buy and play Xbox 360 backward-compatible titles?

There is no impact to purchasing or playing backward-compatible Xbox 360 titles. After July 29, 2024, you will still be able to purchase hundreds of great backward-compatible Xbox 360 and Original Xbox games and DLC on Xbox One, Xbox Series X|S, and Xbox.com. We believe in celebrating gaming’s rich history and have worked hard to preserve as many games as possible through our backward-compatibility program. You can find the full list of backward-compatible titles here.

Source: Xbox Wire

Glide, do gaming w Tango Gameworks employee shares pictures from the Xbox studio’s final day

Hi-Fi Rush might genuinely be one of my favorite games of all time.

These guys did great, and I’ll be thinking twice about any Xbox product I consider purchasing in the future.

snooggums, do games w MultiVersus relaunches to more than 114,000 concurrent players on Steam
@snooggums@midwest.social avatar

It has had a lot of polish aince the beta last year, and the store stuff/season pass microtransaction hell was dialed down. The first season pass appears to be free, not sure how they will handle that stuff in the future.

It is still fun to play although all the flashy daily stuff and the awkward menu navigation is atill annoying.

simple,

I’m excited to get back into it. Is the game still unbalanced towards 1v1, though? My biggest issue is that it felt too easy to dodge everything that matches would last forever until someone gets hit.

jaaake,

There’s a dodge meter now that shows you how many dodges each character has left

Ephera, do gaming w Opinion: Phil Spencer, long cast as Xbox’s saviour, may be remembered as the man who killed it

I just remembered that Redfall also flopped last year, and that was supposed to be one of their two big titles, along with Starfield, which got overshadowed, to say the least.

Wikipedia tells me the CoD release in 2023 was “the lowest-rated mainline Call of Duty installment on Metacritic”, although it seemed to have still printed them money with essentially no work invested, so I guess that’s good?

Diablo IV, I think, did reasonably well in its niche. I remember it being a bit overshadowed by Zelda.

Not sure, if I’m forgetting any other major Microsoft/Bethesda/Arcane/Obsidian/Activision/Blizzard/King games, but yeah, that doesn’t look too great…

BolexForSoup,
@BolexForSoup@kbin.social avatar

Much as I am loath to admit it, Diablo IV did amazing beyond its niche. Anecdotally I saw soooo many people who’d never played Diablo or any game like it get onboard.

Staying power remains to be seen of course.

LoamImprovement,

Redfall also flopped last year

Feels like an understatement - this was the game that killed Arkane, because a majority of the team decided they’d rather fuck off than work on whale chasing live-service nonsense. And like, good on them, but it means no more Dishonored, no sequels to Prey, no chance of Arx Fatalis II, and it fucking sucks to see enshittification strangling good talent. I hope they’ll find success outside of MS’ looming shadow.

jaschen, do games w The upcoming Crazy Taxi reboot is a triple-A game, according to Sega

It better have steering wheel support or I’m not buying it.

BallShapedMan,
@BallShapedMan@lemmy.world avatar

What kind of wheel do you use?

clay_pidgin,

Round, preferably.

altima_neo,
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

No yoke?

clay_pidgin,

I would never yoke about something as serious as the wheel!

jaschen,

Logitech G928.

BallShapedMan,
@BallShapedMan@lemmy.world avatar

That’ll be a blast to use!

jaschen,

I know! I wish more games had this. It’s only driving simulators which is boring. I want this silly game in my life with a steering wheel.

BallShapedMan,
@BallShapedMan@lemmy.world avatar

If it does I’ll for sure play the hell out of it!

I loved the original in the arcade and it’ll be a blast with force feedback in my home.

jaschen,

EXACTLY! Oh man. You wanna know what game doesn’t have steering wheel support? Crusin’ USA. It’s only available on the switch. Like wtf Nintendo. Give this to us!

BallShapedMan,
@BallShapedMan@lemmy.world avatar

I wonder if anyone has made it work through emulation…? I feel like it’s such a classic that someone has had to do it by now.

A quick Google search shows it’s possible to get to work but it looks like a lot of work and a real pain.

jaschen,

Man, I just also did a quick search and it ‘sorta’ works on MAMEs, but its so much trouble. I just want a plug and play experience.

BallShapedMan,
@BallShapedMan@lemmy.world avatar

Same! I’d play that for hours. I loved that in the arcade back in the day.

jaschen,

Have a good day lemmy friend.

BallShapedMan,
@BallShapedMan@lemmy.world avatar

You too!!

MrScottyTay, do games w The upcoming Crazy Taxi reboot is a triple-A game, according to Sega

It was AAA back then so why wouldn’t a new game in that franchise also be AAA?

TheSpermWhale, do games w Ubisoft CEO defends Skull and Bones’ $70 price despite its live service leanings, calls it ‘quadruple-A’
@TheSpermWhale@lemmy.world avatar

Ubisoft is ubisofting

money_loo, do games w Max Payne voice actor James McCaffrey has passed away

Well this sucks.

Loved this dudes contributions to the genre.

ConstableJelly, do games w Max Payne voice actor James McCaffrey has passed away

One of the earliest pieces of media I can remember consuming was the mid-90s TV show Viper, where James played the main character. I remember very little about the show except James's face and that he played his character cool as fuck.

I've been replaying Alan Wake and Control recently, and I have such a soft spot for his roles in them because I loved that stupid show when I was a kid.

kamenlady,
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I rewatched Viper a few months ago, it’s on Pluto for free. For the first time since it aired in the 90s. I didn’t remember that he only did the first 2 seasons. I also only rewatched the 2 seasons he is in, since he was essential for this show. I may have dropped it also, when it aired that’s why i forgot it had more seasons.

Still cool as fuck, including the sparkling gloriousness of the 90s.

RIP

spriteblood, do games w Sega wants classic franchise reboots to show ‘edginess and a rebellious mind-set’

I can't wait to play more JSRF. Haven't grabbed Bomb Rush Cyberfunk yet but super happy to see both official and third party solutions for my fix

alansuspect, do gaming w Ubisoft says Prince of Persia Remake has ‘passed an important milestone’

They should remake the 1989 version

DoucheBagMcSwag, (edited ) do gaming w Sega has cancelled Hyenas "and some unannounced games in development"

Hyenas would have had a dead player base in a few weeks after launch. The battle royale extraction shooter fad is over

gk99, (edited )

The fad isn’t over until there’s something to replace it. Right now, I’m pretty sure we’re securely in the era of “PvPvE extraction shooters” now that the top three Battle Royale podium has ended up Fortnite, Call of Duty, and PUBG.

Though, frankly, CoD DMZ is probably going to win Extraction Shooters for no reason other than that it’s free and all the stuff carries over into CoD BR and the standard multiplayer. If they don’t kill carry forward next year, they’re in a position for some serious success. I’ve given it a play for no reason other than that it’s the easiest mode to get battlepass progression in and the M13B was locked behind playing it.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

You don't think Tarkov, Hunt: Showdown, and CoD DMZ are already the top three of the extraction shooter fad? It doesn't necessarily need to be replaced if the players already found their games in the fad and no new entries can successfully launch. Dota, LoL, and Smite are still around and thriving, but no one's making MOBAs anymore.

bob_lemon, do games w Embracer says its ‘crazy’ outlay on platform fees exceeds its spend on game development

Wait… that math does not possibly check out. In the worst case scenario (Steam), they pay 30% of the revenue from the game in platform fees. If they spend less than that for settlement, simple math tells us that there is at least 41% of the revenue basically unaccounted for.

There’s a bit of overhead in every company, like HR, IT and facilities, so maybe these don’t count for “development cost” (which makes no sense tbh, that’s not how project budgets work). Marketing can eat a ton of money, too, but the numbers still seem bafflingly high.

Opafi,

What? It just means that they spend less than 30% on development. That doesn’t sound too far off, as a lot of the money probably goes to marketing, management, administration or (gasp) profits.

sugar_in_your_tea,

And marketing is a huge part of stupid MTX games, you gotta attract the suckers to your game after all.

Blxter,
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Unless I live under a rock I don’t see the point of spending a lot on marketing ads for games. Two big examples of games that sold extremely well that I never saw an ad for were elden ring and boulders gate three. If you just make a good game word of mouth will tell how good the game is not an ad on TV.

tiramichu, (edited )

It seems like it can make sense. Platform fees aren’t an initial outlay, they’re effectively a cut of profits based on sales.

For the sake of argument using fake numbers, if a studio spends $1m making a game, and then they put it on Steam and it does $10m in sales, then Steam’s cut of that at 30% will be $3m

So, spending more on store fees than development seems possible - especially if your game is selling really well

conciselyverbose,

The percent isn't fixed at 30%, though. Big sellers lower the cut, and Steam takes literally zero from keys they sell elsewhere.

tiramichu,

It’s 30% up to $1m I believe but sure, there are complications. It’s just example numbers to illustrate the point.

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