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Don_alForno, do games w Starfield's latest update draws player ire by sticking a bounty hunting quest behind the Creation Club paywall

Article without tracking paywall bullshit.

So, the player frustration this quest is inspiring isn’t a straight-up next entry in the long-running paid mods debate that’s been going on within the Bethesda community with regards to the Creation Club for a while now, but rather folks simply being unhappy with the monetisation practices Bethesda’s employing with regards to its own stuff.

I suppose that will be part of it, but it takes a load of willful ignorance to not see that the reason they distribute it this way is to ease people into the idea of using the infrastructure they ultimately set up to monetize other people’s work (i.e. mods).

cyd, do games w Starfield's latest update draws player ire by sticking a bounty hunting quest behind the Creation Club paywall

At this point, Western gaming companies’ monetization schemes are becoming worse than gacha, so you may as well go play Genshin Impact ;-)

WatDabney, do games w Starfield's latest update draws player ire by sticking a bounty hunting quest behind the Creation Club paywall

How is anybody even surprised by this?

This is exactly the sort of thing Beth has been moving towards ever since their first ham-handed attempt to monetize mods deservedly blew up in their faces.

They didn’t give up on the idea - they just shifted to a strategy of doing it incrementally.

And this is just the latest step in that ongoing process.

Think about how bad it’s (very deliberately) going to be by the time TES 6 finally comes out…

Butterpaderp,

Now that the fallout show was a success, they’ll probably just put starfield on the backburner and wait till the heat dies down, then make a tv show about it. I’m willing to bet money on this.

daddy32,

Also, let’s not forget they are the DLC pioneers and inventors of the historically important Horse Armor DLC.

samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

Alongside Microsoft. A match made in hell.

Katana314,

I’ll admit I’ve been in that crowd that believed they saw early efforts like horse armor and Bioware’s infamous pay-to-continue Dragon Age quests, and backed off - resolving they need to shift monetization elsewhere like skins. Seems I was wrong.

You could argue given Starfield’s overall failures, it’s still in the sector of terribly-designed monetization that just gets forgotten by history, much like most mobile games. But, we’re still in the process of writing that history.

corroded, do games w Starfield's latest update draws player ire by sticking a bounty hunting quest behind the Creation Club paywall

This seems like a weird and convoluted way to charge for content. Why not just make it a paid DLC?

Sasha,

Well, they are doing both

Reverendender, do gaming w Starfield's latest update draws player ire by sticking a bounty hunting quest behind the Creation Club paywall

To think I bought a Series X just to make sure I would be able to play this game when it came out. To date, I have neither played nor purchased the game.

RightHandOfIkaros, do games w Starfield's latest update draws player ire by sticking a bounty hunting quest behind the Creation Club paywall

Starfield is popular to hate on, anything Bethesda does with it will “draw player ire.”

canis_majoris,
@canis_majoris@lemmy.ca avatar

Tell me you didn’t read the article without telling me you didn’t read the article.

doctortofu, do games w Starfield's latest update draws player ire by sticking a bounty hunting quest behind the Creation Club paywall
@doctortofu@reddthat.com avatar

The Bethesda of old is long dead. After the disappointment that was Starfield, it will take multiple rave reviews and watching a few streamers playing on Twitch for me to even consider giving them any money. And I sure as hell will not be paying for goddamned mods, not now and not ever. Eff that and eff the greedy assholes that now run Bethesda.

Aielman15,
@Aielman15@lemmy.world avatar

The Bethesda of old is long dead.

The Bethesda of old who invented MTX with their $5-dollar horse armour?

Or the Bethesda of old who made millions by re-releasing the same game for 10+ years but refused to spend a dime to fix its bugs or give the players a functioning UI?

Sanctus, (edited )
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

They means the Bethesda if the 00s and back

Edited: he to they, idk this person like that.

Texas_Hangover,

they means

Lmao

Sanctus,
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

Okay I laughed too lol

leftzero,

The Bethesda that made Morrowind. 🤷‍♂️

Wrench,

I don’t see any problem with modders charging for their mods. They are doing work, and deserve to be compensated.

If they’re creating additional deep content, I can see that being worth paying. If it’s just some skins or configuration edits like wonky gravity, that would not be worth money to me. But I think it’s a good thing to be able to add micro transactions for.

Take the original DOTA for example. A warcraft 3 custom map. It eventually dominated the custom game lobby, at least 3:1. I would have no problem with the creator(s) making money off their creation that contributed a ton of replayability the game.

When it comes down to it, it should be the modder’s choice on if they want to charge for their work, and the consumers choice if they want to pay for it.

Also why I didn’t have problems with microtransactions for skins, particularly when it was community driven like DOTA 2. Artists can make money creating non-game altering content, and fans get to personalize their characters.

Kaboom, do games w Starfield's latest update draws player ire by sticking a bounty hunting quest behind the Creation Club paywall

Its mentioned in the article, but it bears repeating.

They force give you the first quest of a questline for free, and then charge you seven bucks for the second 15 minute quest.

Its also not complete, its an early access paid mod where they clearly cut content out of the game just to give you the first hit of a faction questline, end that first quest on a cliff hanger, and then charge 7 bucks per quest. And before this, the faction was just a series of kiosks giving radiant quests.

meco03211,

Fuck that’s bad. Though I’m not playing starfield I’m certainly paying attention to shit like this. Before 76 I would have been a fully committed fanboy pre-ordering most, if not all, Bethesda games. Between 76 and other shenanigans they had dropped sharply out of favor. I wasn’t going to buy a game brand new until reviews came out (hence why I still haven’t played starfield). They gained some favor back with the TV series as it seemed well done for just my kind of interest level. Now they’re losing it again.

BruceTwarzen,

Are you worried they run out of copies or something?

iheartneopets,

Idk why the tv show would have gotten them any grace? As far as I know, all they did was let the property be bought and used by Amazon. Todd Howard executive produced, but that’s not saying much. The show has nothing to do with them as a studio. They just lucked into a team who had something interesting planned with the IP.

Coelacanth, do games w Starfield's latest update draws player ire by sticking a bounty hunting quest behind the Creation Club paywall
@Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

Impressive that enough people still care for there to be a backlash.

BruceTwarzen,

12 people got really pissed, which is everyone.

Jaeger86, do gaming w Starfield's latest update draws player ire by sticking a bounty hunting quest behind the Creation Club paywall

So they still haven’t made it fun? Bummer

Kit,

Maybe by the 10 year anniversary edition.

Carighan,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

“Fun” doesn’t pay C-suite bonuses or shareholder payouts. Ain’t nobody got a reason to work on that!

TachyonTele, do gaming w Starfield's latest update draws player ire by sticking a bounty hunting quest behind the Creation Club paywall

Oh, How the mighty have continued to show their true colors since Oblivions Horse Armor…

Crikeste,

I wouldn’t call a company that got gobbled up by Microsoft ‘mighty’.

TachyonTele,

That’s a nice burn

clearedtoland,

I recently started playing Diablo 4. I’ve never bought DLC or cosmetics but I recall the horse armor uproar. My shock when some of these cosmetics are $20 for mount or town portal…what?!

fushuan,

It’s because their competitor does the same, see? Since few people purchase the mtx they rise prices to compensate. Please ignore the 70$ price tag, thanks.

/s

altima_neo, do gaming w Saber is actually rescuing more studios from Embracer than was announced - and that includes Metro dev 4A
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

It’s a shame they couldn’t save free radical or Volition, but maybe it was for the best…

huquad, do gaming w Remembering Blue Dragon, the spiritual successor to Chrono Trigger that everyone wanted and nobody played

My buddy had this game, shit had like 8 discs

Omegamanthethird,

It was 3. But IIRC, it was the first 360 game to have multiple discs.

huquad,

Yeah you’re right; looking it up it was 3. My kid brain at the time must have seen that and the tale of the multiple disks grew.

steal_your_face, do gaming w Remembering Blue Dragon, the spiritual successor to Chrono Trigger that everyone wanted and nobody played
@steal_your_face@lemmy.ml avatar

And Nobuo Uematsu did the music. This game popped in my head the other day and was hoping it was on steam. I guess you have to emulate it to play it.

theOneTrueSpoon, do gaming w Remembering Blue Dragon, the spiritual successor to Chrono Trigger that everyone wanted and nobody played

I hope they bring this to modern consoles, I never had any Xbox consoles but would like to play it

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