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ninjan, do games w Gamepass has 30 million members

That is a pretty substantial subscription base, no wonder it’s profitable even if it at times feels like a really good deal. Like now when Starfield launched on Game Pass.

lustrum, (edited )

Yeah the maths starts to add up. (There are some assumptions below, but you get the jist).

  • The Xbox One had a software attach rate of 7 gamers per console^1 sold or on average that’s 1 game per year per user for the life of the console.
  • In the Xbox One generation over 8 years they sold 0.875 games per user per year. Assume £50 a game. That’s £43 per xbox console owner per year.
  • Per gamepass subscriber they’re currently recieving £90+ in subscriptions per year.
muddybulldog,

There is a significant number of GP subscribers that don’t pay nearly that much, if anything at all.

I passively accumulate enough MS Rewards points each year to not have to pay for GPU just by using Bing for search.

lustrum,

Right but even if you half the number it’s still only on par with last generation with significantly more room to grow and predictable income.

Xanvial,

Isn’t gamepass subscribers count already stagnated? It was 25m in January 2022, statista.com/…/xbox-game-pass-subscriber-count-gl….

robbieIRL,

I like that you said “significant number” and your example was one person, you.

samus12345, do games w Sea of Stars sold 100,000 copies on day one
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

'Cause it’s a sea

'Cause it’s a sea

Full of stars

MassKirbycide, do games w Super Mario Bros. Wonder Direct Announced - August 31 7:00AM PT

Sweet. It already looked like a breath of fresh air after the NSMB rehashes, but if it’s getting it’s own direct, Nintendo must have really put a lot of love into this one. Can’t wait!

Fiivemacs, do games w Microsoft has apparently eliminated the $1 Xbox Game Pass trial once again, just before the release of Starfield

Another reason why anything subscription based is bad

MomoTimeToDie,

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  • Kolanaki,
    !deleted6508 avatar

    Well… Yeah. Wouldn’t you rather not pay for things? /s

    Dindonmasker,
    @Dindonmasker@sh.itjust.works avatar

    I would say subscriptions are bad because they are proven to make people spend more money then they would have normally. That’s why most big companies do it now. Someone buying a game for 30$ and playing it for 1000 hours over a couple years isn’t very interesting for the big guys.

    Kolanaki,
    !deleted6508 avatar

    But then how would you apply that logic to things like GamePass, where you will end up spending way less if you are a prolific gamer? I spent $120 for a year of PS+ Premium and it paid for itself in 2 weeks with the cost of buying the individual games vs just having access to the catalogue. And not just things I downloaded, played for 10 minutes and removed. There was plenty of things I would have out right paid $40-70 for and have put 40-100 hours in that I didn’t have to buy because they were on the subscription service. It would have cost almost a $1000 for the value of time spent playing games I got access to for only $120.

    crystal,

    For something like a gamepass it’s debatable.

    You probably pay more if using a gamepass, but you also try a lot more games.

    If you played as many games without a gamepass as with one, you’d pay a lot more.

    But without a gamepass, you usually restrict yourself to fewer games.

    Whether removing such restriction is worth the (not as significant) additional cost is subjective.

    So there’s an actual case for subscription in cases like this.

    (The reason subscriptions make some sense here is because digital items are artificially limited. With physical items or services subscriptions are almost always a money grab. But with artificially limited things, such as digital items, subscriptions can definitely be reasonable.)

    halcyoncmdr,
    @halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world avatar

    The subscription service is bad because a trial period that has no bearing on subscribers is changing? Okay.

    Fiivemacs,

    Found another subscriber that shells out money monthly for items they will never own then complains they can’t afford housing/food.

    Subscriptions help no one but companies profits.

    sugar_in_your_tea,

    If you only ever play games or watch movies/shows once regardless, it’s just a cheaper way to get content. The only reason I don’t use Gamepass is because it doesn’t work on Linux. That’s it.

    I have Netflix and Disney+ because it’s way cheaper than buying the movies and shows I watch on it, movies and shows that I’ll only ever watch once.

    big_slap,

    complaining about housing and food? are we reading the same comment or is lemmy broken again lol

    gullible, do games w Charles Martinet Will No Longer Voice Mario

    Has there ever been a class action lawsuit related to whiplash? If Chris Pratt replaces Martinet everywhere, there will be.

    nostalgicgamerz,

    It’s not going to be Chris Pratt You fucking doughnut

    gullible,

    Duh, Nintendo can’t risk that level of exposure.

    GolGolarion, do gaming w Hi-Rez Studios, the people behind Paladins and Smite, have stated that they will be using AI to clone voices and refused to add in any words to contracts that would protect actors from it

    ah man. I kind of liked paladin’s hussle as the overwatch lunch-stealers. Now who am I supposed to root for? TF2 again? Is that game even still alive?

    Exec,
    @Exec@pawb.social avatar

    Now who am I supposed to root for? TF2 again? Is that game even still alive?

    Yes; Yes.

    Lojcs, do games w Assassin's Creed Mirage has gone gold and is coming out a week early

    What’s the point of coming out a week early?

    keefshape,

    Ask Larian. They seem to have garnered some extra good-will.

    GandalfDG, do gaming w Revolutionary indie train sim "Derail Valley" rated "overwhelmingly positive" after huge update
    @GandalfDG@beehaw.org avatar

    this looks pretty neat, definitely adding to my wishlist.

    ryven, do gaming w New Rimworld DLC: Anomaly
    @ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Very cool! I’m looking forward to it, but it also seems like the first expac that I might not want to enable for every playthrough, which is interesting—I wonder if we’ll see more of these themed packs going forward.

    t3rmit3, do gaming w New Rimworld DLC: Anomaly

    This is gonna be gooooood.

    llii, do games w The first trailer for #ELDENRING Shadow of the Erdtree will be revealed in 16 hours. Join us at 15:00 UTC.

    Oh no I need to finish Elden Ring.

    KingThrillgore, do games w Nominees for Game of The Year at TGA 2023
    @KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

    If People Makes Games doesn’t win that award it’s a f–fuck it its a joke they won’t win. They actually have the audacity to hold the industry to account.

    remotelove, do games w Activision Blizzard do not have plans to put Modern Warfare III or Diablo IV into Game Pass this year but once the deal closes they expect to start working with Xbox and add the games to Games Pass

    For someone who doesn’t play consoles, what does that mean? A yearly subscription or something?

    cm0002,

    Game pass is monthly or yearly, there’s a PC only tier as well as the Ultimate tier which includes both PC and consoles as well as xCloud

    remotelove,

    Thanks. That’s gross.

    TrustedChimp,

    Aside from the whole not owning games things, it’s actually great you get well over 100 games for xbox and well over 100 more games for pc (with ultimate) including xbox game studios games from the day they release for like 20 bucks a month and if you decide you want to own a game that’s on gamepass digitally you get a discount on the purchase price

    remotelove,

    Ok, that sounds better. I really don’t play that many games so as long as I still have the option to straight-up buy the ones I do play, that is cool.

    Rynelan,

    Yes then it’s not for you. Game pass is more for the active players that play a lot of games. If you at least play and finish a game each month, even each 2 months then it’s simply cheaper to have Game Pass instead of buying the games (if you’re going to play new AAA on release day)

    cm0002,

    It’s a pretty good value if you play at least 1 AAA title every 3 months or 1 indie game a month. I’ve tried games I never would have bought (Some I didn’t like and I liked game pass even more for it, because now I’m not out 20-60+$ or having to research every game or make sure I play within refund limits) and it’s cratered my desire to sail the Gaming seas.

    It’s kinda like the good days of Netflix, but for games, I’d get in and enjoy it while it lasts because we all know where it’ll end up eventually…

    theskyisfalling,

    It would be good if gamepass didn’t disrespect your HDD by creating directories that cannot be got rid of except by reformatting the entire fucking drive. There is no reason for it to do that -_-

    Potatos_are_not_friends,

    Not sure why you’re being downvoted.

    Gamepass really abuses a bunch of “window features” to drm their games. On steam: folders and games, modding is easy, moving saves to GOG/Epic/etc is easy. In gamepass, it’s a nightmare.

    If you’re lucky, there are 10-20 step tutorials of how to move save games from steam to gamepass and vice versa.

    cm0002,

    I’ve gotten permissions wrestled away from Windows for that folder, I just haven’t figured out how to get the entire Windows Store/Default Apps put back together again lmfaooo

    wildginger,

    If you cant afford games, its great.

    You pay ~$60 for the year, if memory serves. Then you get to play any game on the service for free.

    Any game you really liked, you can buy to add to your library whenever. But you dont feel bad about trying a game you arent sure you would enjoy, and you can also just burn an hour playing a game you know you would hate, just for shits and giggles.

    Honestly its the smartest thing xbox has done in a while.

    Potatos_are_not_friends,

    It’s a subscription service like Netflix or Hulu.

    Unfortunately also games rotate because of licensing deals. Which is why Microsoft is buying studios, to reduce licensing deals since they “own” the property.

    The_Picard_Maneuver, do games w Lies of P is confirmed to be getting DLC. Developer Neowiz confirmed it on their Korean job board.
    @The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website avatar

    That’s great news. It’s a fun game.

    Jaysyn, do gaming w (Now former?) Telltale employee: "This is a sore subject, but I feel it necessary to add to the gaming layoff news: Telltale laid most of us off early September. Status of TWAU2, I can't say (NDA)."
    @Jaysyn@kbin.social avatar

    Another victim of the SVB bankruptcy?

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