As with the several times they tried this before, this is a train wreck of an idea for so many reasons. While I do love the idea of mod creators getting to make money doing what they enjoy, from the consumer perspective this is bound to be awful.. I don't want to have to get nickel-and-dimed by what are essentially third party micro-transactions.. with no grantee that the product I just bought will even work with the others I bought or that they will continue to be supported if the game gets patched a year later. Not to mention virtually zero quality control, leaving users to trust in reviews, AKA other customers who put their money on the line.
And from the mod development side of things, this is going to make building off other mods a complete mess. Think of how many mods you have installed that have had other mods as requirements to work. Are those mods going to need to be bought by the user too? And are the mod creators going to have to set up some kind of revenue sharing with those dependency mods? What happens if a mod developer uses a free mod as a dependency, is that fair to the other mod creator? Do moders have the rights to request their content not be used by other mods? And if so what does that process look like and who arbitrates it? Having seen this tried before, it makes a mess and long term it will stifle collaboration leading to weaker mods.
I think those are all good points, but I think they’re also potentially surmountable ones; I think the key would be to be as restrictive as necessary for which mods are allowed to charge. If only a small fraction of the most clear cut and expansive mods can charge, maybe even hand-picked by the developer, I think that’s still a better state than it was before.
Some potential examples: a mod isn’t allowed to charge if it has any mod dependency. Games supporting paid mods must support opt-out updates (steam already supports this easily via "beta branches) and mods have at least one version available to consumers that are guaranteed to work. Depending on the mod, it could be possible to do some automated regression testing, similar to how the Steam Deck verification works.
On the one hand I'm not opposed to mod creators getting paid for their work. There are a lot of great Skyrim mods, released and upcoming, that I wouldn't mind paying for. Total conversions like Enderal, giant content expansions like Beyond Skyrim, and especially a lot of the great companion mods. The pay what you want option seems like a good way to let people support mod creators while not creating a paywall. On the other hand I just don't trust Bethesda to deal with all of the issues this is going to create and it's hard to see how it doesn't end up negatively impacting the wider modding community.
I prefer donations to the modders. Not paying 30% of it to steam for doing… Nothing much. And also being forced to pay for a mod.
Modding made so many mediocre games fantastic. The community is always a blast. People doing it for the “fame” or just for fun, and also getting occasional donations as a heartfelt “thank you” as a cherry on top.
I can’t imagine paid mods to do anything good for the scene. When does money ever…
On a positive note the incompetent morons trying to harass this dev have now blown this game up a fair bit more than it would’ve gotten otherwise, so hopefully she’ll make enough money to be able to comfortably ignore the morons.
I’m going to look into it, not sure if I’ll buy or not but it certainly seems like an interesting game.
I’m all for supporting developers not being harassed, but what the hell is that screenshot library? What even is this game? I stopped scrolling after a bit because the dialog looks…gross, at best, if not straight up soft incest porn.
This is the exact type of comment that led the dev to abandon everything.
It’s not “the incest game”, the topic of incest barely even appears only if you make several specific choices in the game, and even then it’s never painted in a good light.
Thank you for the clarification. The screenshots for the game on Steam’s site led me to believe it was a horror-romance focused game that heavily leaned on incest. In either case, this is likely not a game for me. Good on the dev for being able to step away from the drama and focus on their work. Shame on people for harassing them.
I want to be absolutely clear that I don’t condone doxxing or harassment, and people should be free to push boundaries in artistic endeavors.
But you only get to Bowser in 8-4 if you make several specific choices in the game, and it seems like the main draw of the game is being edgy with sexy cartoons. If it didn’t want to be “the incest game” then it shouldn’t really have incest in it. That’s a controversial choice, and if the developer didn’t know that, they didn’t read or watch Game of Thrones.
Even the first episode of the game was rife with incestuous undertones. I fully support the dev in their art, but it’s hard to say it’s not an incest game.
People just need to grow up. Weird things happen all the time. We can’t be puritanical and pretend it doesn’t exist.
To be fair, judging by the fact it's either incest or people getting knives/cleavers put up against their throats, i'm going to go on a wild guess and say it doesn't paint it in a positive light. Maybe even suggests there's something wrong with them.
Genuinely thank you for clarifying and yeah, I realize I’m kind of being part of the problem here, but that is literally all I know about the game because of the internet mob.
Every time I tried to ask anything about it on Reddit or Twitter I would get shouted down because of the “problematic content”, and that is all the topic would devolve into. The creator doesn’t deserve to be bullied or doxxed over it, even if the entire story WAS about incest. That really sucks.
It cannot really be about that, there are tons of incest porn games on Steam that pass largely unremarked upon, and this seems way less explicit than most of them. Surely if someone wanted to punish incest game creators, they’d start with one that’s way more explicitly incesty?
I think they just decided to bully these devs, in particular, and whatever they say it’s about is just a pretext for the bullying.
Well not really. One of them was violent, but violence isn’t exactly a kink, it’s just fun.
GTA is violent, and people got all bent out of shape about that as well. But the goal of the game was never to actually get on the nerves of the sort of people who get upset by it It was always made to be entertaining.
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