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leave_it_blank, do games w Legendary Half-Life YouTuber plans class-action lawsuit against Ubisoft for killing The Crew

I got the game for free, and I’ve been playing it since every three months for a few days, just driving around. I bought the sequel, but it sucked.

I never used the multiplayer component, I treated it like a single player game. And now it’s going to vanish? This whole world? They can’t be serious. This isn’t a multiplayer only title, it’s single player with an optional mp stacked upon it. At least put an offline patch out… Assholes!

But that’s the crux with only buying licenses. Or games with always online requirements. I hope fans find a way to crack the online code!!

yamanii,
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, no one is arguing games shouldn’t have online, just that they continue to work after the devs are done with them, have an End of Life plan like the late Avengers game, or the gacha Megaman X Dive that got an offline version sold on steam and consoles.

Artyom, do games w Legendary Half-Life YouTuber plans class-action lawsuit against Ubisoft for killing The Crew

I’m all for improving consumer rights in the videogame industry, but I’m more than a little amazed anyone’s willing to put up a fight for The Crew of all things.

Thcdenton,
@Thcdenton@lemmy.world avatar

He’s rather critical of the game. He just really hates when games are lost forever.

frunch,

Seems more to do with the way things line up–it’s a perfect example of a physical and digital game getting permanently shut down without any sort of refund or compensation to the buyers of the game. It sounds like it’s about setting precedent so people will have a better idea of how this kinda stuff is going to work in the future.

yamanii,
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

He just likes driving around and nothing more, it’s his podcast/tourism game, but also the perfect one since it happened after he started this fight for preservation and it’s not sold as service but as a product, unlike MMOs.

BustinJiber, do games w Legendary Half-Life YouTuber plans class-action lawsuit against Ubisoft for killing The Crew
LunchEnjoyer, do games w Legendary Half-Life YouTuber plans class-action lawsuit against Ubisoft for killing The Crew
@LunchEnjoyer@lemmy.world avatar

Don’t forget we have to get comfortable not owning our games guys… This is Ubisoft showing us how that works…

Thcdenton, do games w Legendary Half-Life YouTuber plans class-action lawsuit against Ubisoft for killing The Crew
@Thcdenton@lemmy.world avatar

Blessed Ross Scott

LaserTurboShark69, do games w Legendary Half-Life YouTuber plans class-action lawsuit against Ubisoft for killing The Crew

Fuck yeah Ross

ohlaph, do games w Legendary Half-Life YouTuber plans class-action lawsuit against Ubisoft for killing The Crew

That aldo happened to Bomberman. To play locally, it needs to connect to a server. The servers are no longer active, and as a result, the game isn’t playable.

B0NK3RS, do games w Legendary Half-Life YouTuber plans class-action lawsuit against Ubisoft for killing The Crew
@B0NK3RS@lemmy.world avatar

Stuff like this is always welcome.

yZmHGnHnaB, do gaming w Half-Life YouTube legend Ross ‘Accursed Farms’ Scott, of Freeman’s Mind, is planning a lawsuit against Ubisoft over The Crew’s shutdown.
@yZmHGnHnaB@sh.itjust.works avatar

Seems like a pointless lawsuit and a waste of time, but I see where he’s coming from.

phillaholic,

I disagree that it’s pointless. You never know what a Judge is going to decide.

ampersandrew, do gaming w Half-Life YouTube legend Ross ‘Accursed Farms’ Scott, of Freeman’s Mind, is planning a lawsuit against Ubisoft over The Crew’s shutdown.
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

I came across this video yesterday, and I'm 100% on board with Ross and his stance toward games as a service, but this isn't a plan for a lawsuit; it's asking for help in creating the plan. I hope he can make something happen, because games as a service is going to leave a wake of destruction in the history of video games, but temper your expectations.

HeartyOfGlass, do gaming w Half-Life YouTube legend Ross ‘Accursed Farms’ Scott, of Freeman’s Mind, is planning a lawsuit against Ubisoft over The Crew’s shutdown.

“I think the argument to make is that The Crew was sold under a perpetual license, not a subscription, so we were being sold a good, not a service,” Ross says in his latest video. “Then the seller rendered the game unusable and deprived it of all value after the point of sale. It’s possible that argument won’t hold up either, in which case I think there’s no possible way to stop this practice, at least in the United States. But to the best of my knowledge, this angle has never been tested in court and might actually have some teeth."

It’s a good point. Interested to see how this unfolds.

Modva, do games w Baldur’s Gate 3 boss says gamers don’t want mass subscriptions

The thing is that this guy is not the head of a public company where shareholders demand massive and continually growing profits. So he acts in the interests of the consumer, the customer, the gamer. But if this was a public company, shareholders would buy shares and then demand he do something to grow that share price, so they can sell the shares later for profit.

When that happens we see that CEOs do everything they can to maximize profits, like promising release dates in earnings calls.

The difference between private and public companies is the single biggest threat to us all because as soon as the company acts in the exclusive interest of profit, everything else gets fucked. And most do.

That means employees, customers, everyone. Only the 1% benefit from the gutting of everyone else.

GlitchZero,

I mean yes, but also no. I work at a private company and profits seem to be the only thing to get anyone with a title to move their ass.

Most Directors or below have their teams, or customers, or the product front of mind. But once you get to VP seats they just… don’t, it seems.

And this is super anecdotal, I know, but… basically my point is private vs public doesn’t necessarily mean anything.

This guy is just a good guy. He knows what matters to people and speaks from his heart, not his wallet.

Modva,

Those top level folks are sometimes “incentived” by bottom line targets and other end targets. So sure, you do get greedy people inside private companies.

I don’t think shareholders driving for infinite profit is easily disregarded.

wildginger,

Thats either because your boss privately wants to hoard wealth, or is trying to set the books up for a clean sell.

Public means you sacrifice everything in the name of profit.

Private means you operate on the ideals of the private owners.

A private owner can have ideals of profit. A public company cannot have idealistic shareholders.

AngryCommieKender,

Publicly traded, aka private property, means you operate on the ideals of private owners, sacrificing everything in the name of profit.

Publicly owned means almost the opposite, but almost nothing is publicly owned in the US at this point.

Private property ≠ personal property.

wildginger,

I dont think you responded to the right comment, Im talking about the difference between types of companies, not property.

AngryCommieKender,

I’m also talking about different company structures, and how they relate to the type of property that they are.

wildginger,

Ah, in that case I dont think you understand the convo at all

shasta,

It’s clear from context that he was discussing publicly-traded companies because, like you said, there basically are no public companies in the US. Your post is unnecessary and pedantic.

AngryCommieKender,

There should be public companies in the US. Especially utilities.

LwL,

Technically public still means you act in the interests of the owners, aka shareholders (at least in germany anything else is illegal), it’s just that naturally that will always be profit for the majority.

Nomad,

Maybe turn the AAA stock into a meme stock, have gamers buy that shit up and give reduced game prices to stock holders to incentivise gamers to buy them. Et voila, No demand for profit that costs quality in the gaming experience.

INeedMana,
@INeedMana@lemmy.world avatar

The difference between private and public companies is the single biggest threat to us all

Nah. One does not build a company to provide a service but to earn money. “Well-being of the company” only matters if you are sure you can sell it for more if you grow it more

MJKee9,

There are a hundred different reasons to start a company other than to make profit. Don’t be fooled by the lies of market capitalism. Some people want to create a legacy that generates income for themselves and their employees, maybe even their children. Not everyone is looking to sell to the highest bidder. With that said, the bigger the company, especially if they plan to go, or already are, publicly traded, or are owned by private equity firms whose sole focus is profit and value of the entity the more likely the assumption is true.

Modva,

There are many different reasons than to pursue continually escalating profits.

banazir, do games w Baldur’s Gate 3 boss says gamers don’t want mass subscriptions
@banazir@lemmy.ml avatar

Wait, a CEO said that? What’s the catch?

Lesrid,

He’s a CEO of a relatively small company that is product focused. He has yet to grow and focus margins in any serious way.

Duamerthrax,

Larian is privately owned. They don’t have stockholders to appease with short term gains.

echodot,

Which is weird because they remain shareholders for years, so you’d have thought they want long-term gains.

I think I’ve come to the conclusion that “businessmen” are just idiots.

Duamerthrax,

They’re gambling addicts

TomAwsm,

you’d have thought they want long-term gains.

They do. They just also want short-term and medium-term gains.

blazeknave,

Incorrect. The shareholders are the private owners. They’re just not gambling douchebags trying to make themselves short term gains. :D

Draedron, do games w Baldur’s Gate 3 boss says gamers don’t want mass subscriptions

Was it Raphael or which BG3 boss said this?

stewsters,

The one with the heavy armor.

520, do games w Baldur’s Gate 3 boss says gamers don’t want mass subscriptions

I mean, no shit.

These days we are expected to be subscribed to tons of shit, including stuff that simply doesn't justify subscriptions. We know it's not a benefit to us, but to the companies that dish them out.

BarrierWithAshes,
@BarrierWithAshes@kbin.social avatar

Not to mention the sheer amount of amazing indie games coming out lately. Why even check out this gacha and subscription games?

520,

This too! So many genuinely good games at genuinely good prices. This is true even on Switch, where Nintendo is known to put AAA efforts into genres otherwise filled entirely with indie games (not to mention the Nintendo tax)

Essence_of_Meh,

Just wanted to mention that just like with any other F2P games, there are gacha titles that are fun without paying anything. Not as many as the predatory kind but still.

Speculater,
@Speculater@lemmy.world avatar

I think the worst one I’ve seen recently was a note taking app on Android. Developer made a glorified PDF reader you could write on and wanted $10 to use the fucking app annually. I hope that dev ends up homeless and broken.

520,

Jesus fucking Christ, why not charge a subscription for notepad.exe while you're at it.

The worst I've personally seen was a subscription for an Android launcher. No actual cloud services attached and no way to pay outright. They wanted for a subscription for an app that launches other apps.

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