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  • CTDummy,

    Outdoors with proximity to 1-3 other people, where he can move at will and distance himself vs indoors, courtroom full of people and he’s sitting while people move around. Probably not the same. If the guy has risk factors for developing complications with COVID, which we can see he has one which is being overweight, I don’t think it’s reasonable for the court to force him to attend when he could attend remotely.

    Viper_NZ,

    He was outdoors, with a mask on.

    How does compare to being in an enclosed courtroom?

    brawleryukon,
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    He was mere feet away from total strangers who may or may not have been masked when he opened the door (taking the video at face value, and assuming he didn’t send the production team up there to tell the residents to mask up first). Much more dangerous than a courtoom of people with N95s on, none of whom he would need to get as close to as he did for those Deck deliveries.

    Chobbes, (edited )

    Interacting with maybe a dozen people outside with a mask on for a few minutes at a time is almost certainly much lower risk than being in a courtroom with, likely, many more people and stale air for hours. It’s certainly helpful if everybody is masked up in the courtroom, but people are notoriously bad at wearing masks properly, they’re going to require Gabe Newell to unmask for questions, and there’s a lot more factors you don’t control in that scenario… outside delivering stuff you can always walk away if somebody isn’t giving you the space you’re comfortable with… Regardless, all risk is cumulative and you may want to limit the number of times you do higher risk things as much as possible. Even if you rarely do some riskier things, it doesn’t mean you’re okay with that level of risk all of the time. I don’t think it’s that unreasonable to want to manage and minimize your exposure if you’re high risk.

    AustralianSimon, (edited )
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    Bit different to being in close confines on one or more planes and a court room buddy.

    TheBat,
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    Close confines.

    AustralianSimon,
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    Thanks autocorrect check bot

    luna,
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    Going door to door in fresh air is something else than sitting in a room with lots of other people and “you’ll be fine” is an insane argument. You’ll be fine until you aren’t. Every person should be able to make that risk assessment for themselves and courts should not be able to force someone to risk exposure to anything.

    DarkThoughts,

    It amazes me that covidiots still don't understand the difference between inside and outside spaces for that matter. If people breath and cough around the outside, shit will just be swept away by the wind. If people do that in enclosed spaces, then they'll just start to saturate the air with germs over its prolonged time. And then you even expect them to take off the mask when they're in the witness stand? Do you think that's like a germ free zone? lol

    CooperHawkes,

    You may have an excellent argument to make but I’m afraid I stopped reading at “covidiot”.

    superb,
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    I think we found one…

    CooperHawkes,

    Ahh shoot. I wasn’t clear at all.

    My family refers to vaxxed people as covidiots. So I tend to associate it with antivax people. I will accept my negative number either way. Apologies for the confusion.

    DarkThoughts,

    https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/covidiot
    Your family is just wrong, seemingly on every single shit they say or think.

    CooperHawkes,

    Lesson learned for me. My apologies for the snap judgment. And I appreciate the time you took to help educate me.

    Zozano,
    @Zozano@aussie.zone avatar

    One of the most helpful mindsets I’ve adopted was accepting that I don’t want to be wrong any longer than I have to be.

    Strangers on the internet don’t care. The only person you’re hurting is yourself.

    CooperHawkes,

    I wouldn’t say I’m hurt. More embarrassed that I accepted a definition without further scrutiny.

    My philosophy is to always be learning. Sometimes trauma impedes it and a wake up call is necessary. So I appreciate your time and thoughtful response and will take this lesson as an opportunity to do better for myself.

    Zozano,
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    I wasn’t strictly talking about the definition of covidiot, I was referring to the virus’ transmissibility; indoors vs outdoors.

    There has been a lot of misinformation during covid, from both sides, and virtually everyone needs to accept that they were wrong about certain things.

    For example, I was forced to change my mind about the safety of the vaccine. I still personally believe most people should have been vaccinated, but we need to accept that it didn’t do what was expected.

    At the end of the day, Covid is a respiratory virus, and the consensus of indoors vs outdoors transmissibility had been reached decades ago.

    I appreciated the measured response, it’s rare to see people sincerely reflect on their beliefs so quickly without feeling condescended.

    Wumbologist,

    Wasn’t that like, 2 years ago? Isn’t it possible that his health situation has changed since then?

    Nibodhika,

    Others have explained to you why it’s different, and that that happened 2 years ago and a lot of things health related can change in that time. But even if he had done that yesterday, even if it was the same, he should be able to choose to attend remotely, he’s not asking to be excused, he’s not asking to change anything, all he’s asking is to be able to do it from his home, and I wouldn’t deny that to anyone unless there’s a reason to be physically there, which there isn’t.

    Carighan,
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    Plus, since he’s just testifying, it sucks on a climate level to make him jet around for absolutely no reason, too.

    Chobbes,

    Yeah, I don’t really think anybody should have to go to court in person, and I can definitely empathize with somebody wanting to avoid COVID (even if they’re not super high risk, you never know how it will affect you it seems). I kind of understand the bias towards in person things, but I really wish people would get over it. Sometimes it’s just a lot more practical to do things remotely, and while a video call isn’t quite the same as being there in person I think it’s something we can deal with. It certainly doesn’t seem like it would be that much worse for testifying tbh.

    vivadanang,

    Kotick or Riccitiello

    I mean, yeah, if you drop those two as the alternative, every time, fuck those guys every day and twice on sunday. But… Gaben’s got a very different record.

    I’m of the opinion that he should have to testify like anyone else just to preclude Trump and their ilk from trying to get out of testifying in person.

    Carighan,
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  • ryathal,

    Court is boring AF, he’s just using covid for an excuse to avoid having to go. I can’t really blame him for trying, but I’m not surprised it didn’t work.

    ipkpjersi,

    Actually no, I’d let the science speak for itself. Being outdoors with a mask on significantly reduces your chances of contracting COVID-19. Being in a crowded room with lots of other people significantly increases your risk. Gabe is right, just like any other CEO would be right if they said the same thing.

    penquin, do games w Court rules Gabe Newell must appear in person to testify in Steam anti-trust lawsuit

    So there is an anti-trust lawsuit against steam, but not apple, Google, Amazon, Microsoft… Etc of those giant companies who literally destroy everything in their way? Please tell me they’re next?

    flames5123,

    There are anti trust lawsuits going on with most the companies you listed though? Microsoft had one in the early tech days that they won, but there’s probably going to be another one soon…

    Apple, Google, Amazon (by the FTC).

    penquin,

    Good. Thank you for sharing.

    TunaLobster,

    DoJ is currently in a lawsuit against Google for search monopoly. Been going on for a while now.

    penquin,

    Good. Other giant ones need to be next.

    saltesc, do games w Court rules Gabe Newell must appear in person to testify in Steam anti-trust lawsuit

    While he’s there under oath, can they get some HL3 info out of him?

    Kusimulkku,

    “Objection, this has nothing to do with the case.”

    “Overruled, the public needs to hear this”

    Igloojoe,

    They’ll never release HL3. They are not a developer anymore. They are just a game store/directory. HL3 has been overhyped so much that anything released would be a disappointment. The gaming market has changed too much from when they made a game engine and released half life to showcase that game engine.

    I can probably list a million more reasons why they’ll never release, but those are the big points.

    Half-life Alyx was HL3, just it was better to name it not HL3, because fans would lose their minds.

    derGottesknecht,

    They are not a developer anymore. They are just a game store/directory.

    CSGO 2 would like a word with you

    LinyosT,

    Also the fact that they have at least one other game in development. NEON PRIME.

    Silentiea,

    On the one hand, yeah. On the other hand, HL:A ended with an obvious sequel hook, and that hook was the ending of HL2:E2. Spoilers, I guess, but the game’s been out for a while.

    Of course, that doesn’t mean another game is coming, but it does mean that HL:A doesn’t mean another game isn’t coming, either.

    setsneedtofeed,
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    “It has already been released. It has been released for thousands of years. Humanity simply needs to reach a point of true understanding to see it.”

    Gabe disappears in a flash of light.

    Wogi, do games w Court rules Gabe Newell must appear in person to testify in Steam anti-trust lawsuit

    I appreciate requiring everyone wearing a good mask while he’s in the courtroom, but I don’t understand how having him in the room to testify would be substantially different from an online appearance.

    ringwraithfish,

    Same energy as CEOs demanding workers return to the office

    PsychedSy,

    It’s probably a huge mistake for the plaintiffs. Imagine inviting in gaben so he can steal everyone’s hearts.

    Arbic,

    Also that he has to take off his mask while testifying. seriously wtf that shit is in the air in a closed room.

    TiredNerdDad, do gaming w Embracer exec says laying off hundreds of people was an 'agonising process,' but that restructuring is 'how we win'
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    Win what exactly? They’re the biggest game company out there.

    quams69,

    Win all of the money, win capitalism?

    These people are mentally ill, just straight up.

    julianh, do gaming w Embracer exec says laying off hundreds of people was an 'agonising process,' but that restructuring is 'how we win'

    “Some of you may die”

    Redhotkurt,
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    I know, right? That is some frickin Lord Farquaad shit. What a dickhead!

    Satiric_Weasel,

    A fuckwad even.

    RandoCalrandian,
    @RandoCalrandian@kbin.social avatar

    I’m totally adding that back into my vocab now 😂

    Wish it could sound more like Farquaad, but maybe that on its own is a good enough one. Kinda rolls off the tongue

    TwilightVulpine, do gaming w Embracer exec says laying off hundreds of people was an 'agonising process,' but that restructuring is 'how we win'

    Not a single game out and they are already ruining several studios...

    Lettuceeatlettuce, do gaming w Embracer exec says laying off hundreds of people was an 'agonising process,' but that restructuring is 'how we win'
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    I’m sure he’s weeping as his 7 figure pay stubs come into his bank account and he gets driven home to his mansion.

    p03locke, do gaming w Embracer exec says laying off hundreds of people was an 'agonising process,' but that restructuring is 'how we win'
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    No, it’s how you win.

    Carighan, do gaming w Embracer exec says laying off hundreds of people was an 'agonising process,' but that restructuring is 'how we win'
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    New idea:

    Whenever a company wants to drop X workers, the first Y people of that have to be the C-suites, and they cannot get a parachute. They leave just on the last pay they received regularly, no bonuses or anything.

    calcifer777,

    As much as 2000IQ that can sound, it would mean leaving any company in shambles after a layoff round

    Carighan,
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    Oh course, and I’m half joking. But something has to be done about execs stuffing their own arse full with all the bank notes they get from mass layoffs, when that money could easily keep some of those workers employed.

    Dirk_Darkly,

    Oh no, the buffoons who mismanaged the company so badly that scores of people are laid off have to be fired! Now who will fuck things up while making off with tons of cash?

    Dreyns,

    Yes because we all know a company sake is more important than the lives of sometimes hundreds of people. You realize how awful you sound ?

    Syldon, do gaming w Embracer exec says laying off hundreds of people was an 'agonising process,' but that restructuring is 'how we win'
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    The race to the bottom for you is how I get to the top. See we all win at something.

    drkt, do gaming w Embracer exec says laying off hundreds of people was an 'agonising process,' but that restructuring is 'how we win'

    Are they having a hard time embracing it?

    until next time

    SolOrion, do gaming w Embracer exec says laying off hundreds of people was an 'agonising process,' but that restructuring is 'how we win'

    On one hand, I don’t at all like Embracer. On the other hand, the longer Embracer exists the more likely we get that KotOR remake.

    Immersive_Matthew,

    I more than suspect your future personalAGI agent will make you a KotOR remake before Embracer gets to it.

    SolOrion,

    Fair. I don’t exactly have high hopes for it lol.

    Immersive_Matthew,

    Really? I have very high hopes. Not next year or the year after but as we approach the end of the decade you will be able to ask for any experience you desire. Furthrr since it will get to know your taste, it will be tailored to you. I share this with both excitement as a consumer and sadness as a VR developer whose career will be replaced by AI one day.

    DebatableRaccoon, do gaming w Embracer exec says laying off hundreds of people was an 'agonising process,' but that restructuring is 'how we win'

    The nerve of this prick to talk as if he’s some selfless saviour fighting for the great good…

    RandoCalrandian,
    @RandoCalrandian@kbin.social avatar

    Worse is how he actually thinks he’s that

    TonyTonyChopper, do pcgaming w 'Today is the end of Steam': Argentina and Turkey floored by new Steam price hikes as high as 2900%
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