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Nollij, do games w Games consoles are infuriatingly exempt from California's otherwise important new right to repair bill

Does anyone know the reasoning used for the exception? From the article, it was clearly a deliberate decision. But I do not see any reason why it was needed.

moody,

I’m guessing piracy.

AceFuzzLord, do games w Games consoles are infuriatingly exempt from California's otherwise important new right to repair bill

As much of a bummer as that is, I don’t think there has ever been any major cases of someone just replacing parts for their console and not selling it. What is a company like sintendo gonna do if you replace the screen on your switch with a 3rd party screen or open it up to replace any parts but don’t end up selling it?

moody,

I think they’re more concerned about mod chips and having to sell replacement motherboards to fix botched jobs.

curiousaur, do games w Games consoles are infuriatingly exempt from California's otherwise important new right to repair bill

Ok, hear me out. My intuition tells me its because consoles are subsidized. The manufacturer loses money or breakes even in order to make money back in the games sold. I think Nintendo is an exception. So having the additional expense of having to support them harms the hardware subsidy model.

Kolanaki, (edited )
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Nintendo has been the only game company I’ve seen be directly vocal against the Right to Repair stuff. 🤔

moody,

I assume that they managed to get it exempted based on piracy concerns.

Frying your console’s motherboard attempting to install a mod chip is not a big deal if you can replace it yourself on the cheap.

curiousaur,

Even better, it would mean those selling mod chips could just buy the motherboards and sell pre modded motherboards.

Cethin,

Maybe, but why should that exempt them? If the model doesn’t work anymore then it doesn’t work. Who cares. They’ll still sell consoles and make money. They might cost more upfront or something, but they’ll still sell them.

Potatos_are_not_friends,

Gotta admit… That sounds like a “them” problem. If they want to sell it at a loss, that’s on them. Make console prices more expensive.

Bring more gamers to the PC & Steam Deck.

bob_wiley,
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Seems like repairs would increase the usable life of the console, thus allowing the user to buy more games for it, letting the manufacturer get over more money out of that purchase.

What’s the alternative, they fix it for free in a recall instead of selling parts? Someone buys a new console which is another loss for them with limited chance to make it up? The person gets upset and buys the competition’s console?

renormalizer,

Wouldn’t that be an argument for right-to-repair? If the user has to buy another console because theirs broke, the company has made twice the loss for the same number of games bought (or fewer, because the user has less money to spend on games). Reparing looks like a win-win here.

cryomancer20x6, do games w Games consoles are infuriatingly exempt from California's otherwise important new right to repair bill

I wonder where the Steam Deck falls since it can be used as a general computer, but the primary intended use is to play games.

Pika,

game console for sure, as the rest of the have the capability as well but it’s general focus is gaming.

QuaternionsRock,

Can’t install a general computer OS on any other “console” out of the box though.

I wouldn’t expect Valve to have a problem with conforming to right-to-repair laws anyway. I have a hard time imagining they’re taking a bath on hardware that you can completely remove their storefront from.

Bluescluestoothpaste,

But general focus isn’t a specific legal term is it? Like what about gaming laptops? Isn’t that the same thing? I haven’t read the law so idk if it creates that specificity.

FartsWithAnAccent, do games w Games consoles are infuriatingly exempt from California's otherwise important new right to repair bill
@FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world avatar

Extreme? Fuck off, lol

gravitas_deficiency, do games w Games consoles are infuriatingly exempt from California's otherwise important new right to repair bill

Enterprising Greedy manufacturers will absolutely devise a way to classify computers, laptops, tablets, and phones as “game consoles”.

tristan,

HP tomorrow “introducing our new gaming inkjet printer”

gravitas_deficiency,

printer scanner, which requires ink cartridges to function

ClemaX,

At this point I think they will just sell them for less than 50$ and still earn as much money by shrinkflation.

JokeDeity, do games w Games consoles are infuriatingly exempt from California's otherwise important new right to repair bill

Nintendo is a mob level boss.

Alpharius, do games w Games consoles are infuriatingly exempt from California's otherwise important new right to repair bill
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Me when I can’t scam the consumers by selling cheap electronics that I will support only until the next model.

Dariusmiles2123, (edited ) do games w Forget Phantom Liberty, Cyberpunk 2077's free 2.0 patch is a staggering upgrade on its own

I’m gonna give it a chance and have a second playthrough one of these days.

Still the story was my problem the first time…

I enjoyed the game, but it could have been way better.

PP_BOY_, do games w Amnesia: The Bunker's Halloween update plans to make this year's scariest game even more terrifying
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Does anyone have any suggestions for horror games that aren’t frustratingly difficult? I feel like with most horror games, the scare factor wears off after the second restart because game developers think that one-hit enemies and no weapons makes things scarier, but I disagree.

The last real horror game that I played was The Iron Lung and while it was great, the total game has almost no replay value and can be completed in under an hour.

all-knight-party,
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SOMA is pretty good for that, it's got a mode where the monsters can't hurt you. I played on that mode and enjoyed it immensely for its story and environmental merits.

all-knight-party, do games w Amnesia: The Bunker's Halloween update plans to make this year's scariest game even more terrifying
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Soma is pretty awesome, features a mode where you can't be hurt by the enemies, I enjoyed it immensely on its environmental and story merits while playing on that mode.

circuitfarmer, do games w Forget Phantom Liberty, Cyberpunk 2077's free 2.0 patch is a staggering upgrade on its own
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I wish working public transit was on this list, especially because it’s used in the PL cinematic trailer (again).

JJROKCZ,

Didn’t a mod get it kinda working not that long ago? The trains were still moving and the stations were there on release, CDPR just put walls up or disabled the doors to the stations/trains. They’re a little jank to ride but it was doable. Felt like CDPR just decided focusing on cool cars was more worth the effort

AFLYINTOASTER, do games w Payday 3 developer drops Denuvo from the game before it's even out

Hell yeah we love to see it

GreenMario, do games w Payday 3 developer drops Denuvo from the game before it's even out

Appreciated but strange. Did they look at the sub cost and went nah or something else? I mean could have just wanted it for the beta but idk seems overkill (heh heh).

Selmafudd,

I don’t understand why anybody would pay for it while it can be cracked… sure its likely only one person in the world can crack it atm but if she wants to crack it she can and then it’s gonna be uploaded and repacked by multiple people.

ThunderingJerboa, (edited )
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But its multiplayer only (which has its own problems). So a crack would be pointless. Its always pinging home, so it just wouldn't work.

Selmafudd,

I’ve never played any of the paydays so yeah I’m not sure, some multiplayer can work with self hosted servers etc.

But yeah if it’s only official servers even more reseaon not to pay for the service

Metal_Zealot, do games w Payday 3 developer drops Denuvo from the game before it's even out
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So, do people actually play Pay Day? All I know is that it’s a game. Haven’t seen trailers, haven’t seen anyone play it on Twitch, it’s like a “fake” game that’s a joke that’s been going on for a really long time

xchino,

I mean the last one was released in 2013, it’s not exactly super relevant but if you’re that unaware of it I assume you were playing habbo hotel or whatever little kids played 10 years ago.

RedditWanderer, (edited )

Holy shitballs. It feels like just yesterday we were firing up payday 2 on release day with a bunch of friends and risking having a seizure at any moment on the “start heist” page.

I figured yeah payday 2 was like 5 years ago, time for a new one. 10 fucking years… i need a drink!

TheaoneAndOnly27,

Oh man, I feel old now. It was so fun when it came out. I remember the first time I solo stealthwd the nightclub. I kinda got burnt out when it went more absurd. Like after John wick.

Metal_Zealot, (edited )
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I’m aware of it like I’m aware of NFL games. They’re just kinda there and offer nothing new

all-knight-party, (edited )
@all-knight-party@kbin.cafe avatar

Some people, like me, are probably just waiting to see what happens. Payday 2 was awesome, but after release it got microtransactioned and piecemeal DLC'd to high fucking heaven. I don't care if the beta is good, I want to see what it'll become before I get invested.

Metal_Zealot, (edited )
@Metal_Zealot@lemmy.ml avatar

“Beta” it’s just “Early Access” with less free playtesters

drekly,

Man I was playing habbo hotel 20+ years ago

GreenMario,

Look at steam charts. Payday 2 is always in the first page. It’s very popular.

TheBlue22, (edited )

…are you an A.I.? Your comment is so incomprehensible that I fr think it was A.I. generated

Metal_Zealot,
@Metal_Zealot@lemmy.ml avatar

If you can’t parse anything from that, when multiple others have proven they can, then I’m not the one with issues here

Commiunism,

Yeah it’s one of those fake games they put in the movies so the movie company doesn’t have to pay licensing fees

Metal_Zealot,
@Metal_Zealot@lemmy.ml avatar

They could have just called it “Game” and I wouldn’t have been any the wiser

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