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vagrantprodigy, do games w Todd Howard asked on-air why Bethesda didn't optimise Starfield for PC: 'We did [...] you may need to upgrade your PC'

lol, no they didn’t. They didn’t even test adequately, more than a few GPUs that meet the requirements didn’t work when early access launched.

Chailles, do games w Todd Howard asked on-air why Bethesda didn't optimise Starfield for PC: 'We did [...] you may need to upgrade your PC'
@Chailles@lemmy.world avatar

Honestly, what do you expect someone to say when asked a question like that? There’s no answer there.

emax_gomax,

Umm… honesty. Games used to run on the bleeding edge of performance. Not Bethesda games but just games in general. Now the release half broken blatant cash grabs and think no ones gonna call them out for it.

noobdoomguy8658,

They don’t think that. They just know that the people will pay up anyway, bringing in the profits for shareholders and the C-suite, and that’s all that matters.

The DLCs, cosmetics, MTX, etc. are all pretty much alive and well despite everything just because enough people cash out, so why change their ways?

AAA gaming is a big industry, and big industries are nothing wholesome.

anonono,

“we have worked a lot on PC performance. wanted to reach performance parity with consoles for release on similar hardware and we achieved that, However, our teams will continue working on improvements and integrating technologies like fsr and dlss in the future. “

rambaroo, (edited )

Seriously? Just say that we’re always trying to optimize our games and we’ll continue working on it. It’s such an easy question to tackle. I refuse to believe you can’t see that. People just think Bethesda is above criticism for some inane reason.

Chailles,
@Chailles@lemmy.world avatar

That’s not an answer that people would have accepted either and no matter what answer was said, it would have been dissected and criticized by the syllable.

The point I’m trying to make here is that “optimize your game” doesn’t help anybody. Especially not as an interview question. You might as well have asked “why didn’t you make your game fun?”

30p87, do gaming w Bethesda says most of Starfield's 1000+ planets are dull on purpose

When the astronauts went to the moon, there was nothing there. They certainly weren’t bored.

Because it wasn’t just a rock, but the first time entering another natural body of mass in the universe, apart from our earth. Something that never happened before. In contrast, over a million players have discovered planets in Starfield by now, including all customly made content by Bethesda for the planets.
The astronauts where excited and happy as they achieved a huge step for humanity - somewhere I heard that before - while one could literally only achieve one small step for a human in Starfield.

Syrup,

Yeah, and it’s not like the astronauts just put up a flag and left. They took soil samples, set up sensors to measure tectonic activity, etc. Rocks are interesting when you can interact with them.

rgb3x3,

You mean pointing a laser at a rock for a few seconds until it pops isn’t interesting? /s

Blackmist, do gaming w Bethesda says most of Starfield's 1000+ planets are dull on purpose because 'when the astronauts went to the moon, there was nothing there' but 'they certainly weren't bored'

That maybe so, but if Earth had 1000 moons, we’d have likely gone to one with something interesting on it.

infamous_trade, do gaming w Bethesda says most of Starfield's 1000+ planets are dull on purpose because 'when the astronauts went to the moon, there was nothing there' but 'they certainly weren't bored'

nice argument lol

stevedidWHAT,
@stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world avatar

Who needs logic and rhetoric when you have 💰

Lord knows there’s enough content creators now to self sustain shit games and businesses for all of time regardless of what genpop is interested in

jumbodumbo, do gaming w Bethesda says most of Starfield's 1000+ planets are dull on purpose

It’s very strand-like in that sense.

zalgotext, do gaming w Bethesda says most of Starfield's 1000+ planets are dull on purpose because 'when the astronauts went to the moon, there was nothing there' but 'they certainly weren't bored'

Exploring is supposed to be a reward in itself

Oh yes, exploring 6 levels of nested menus is incredibly rewarding

Edgelord_Of_Tomorrow,

Pro tip: if you just fast travel between Far Harbour and Nukaworld over and over you get the same experience as Starfield for free

stevedidWHAT,
@stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world avatar

Bahahaha

Heard if you 3D print a copy of no man’s sky you actually just get starfield

balderdash9, do gaming w Bethesda says most of Starfield's 1000+ planets are dull on purpose

I’m getting no mans sky release flashbacks. Hopefully they keep working on it like the no mans sky team did

Faydaikin, (edited )
@Faydaikin@beehaw.org avatar

I guess that depends on the amount of copies sold and the ‘refund ratio’.

If both are within acceptable parameters, they won’t do anything. Just leave it to the modding community to fix whatever needs fixing. They already have your money, don’t they…

It’s the Bethesda way.

supercriticalcheese,

I really don’t think it’s anything like that.

It’s a design decision, in the sense a bit like elite dangerous where the planet generation is realistic, as far as we know, even at the expense of being boring.

dangblingus, do games w Todd Howard asked on-air why Bethesda didn't optimise Starfield for PC: 'We did [...] you may need to upgrade your PC'

Yeah, we optimized. We didn’t do it well, but it happened!

mp3, do games w Todd Howard asked on-air why Bethesda didn't optimise Starfield for PC: 'We did [...] you may need to upgrade your PC'
@mp3@lemmy.ca avatar

The missing part is that the user with a 4090 complaining had a CPU from 2017 🥴 https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/b8c595d0-663f-45d4-b60e-e8738b8945b7.png

NOT_RICK,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

What’s a CPU bottleneck? I have the magic gpu

capt_wolf,

Yeah, I’m not buying that either. I’m on a 2014 i7 and a 3060 playing on ultra. My sole issue was not running on an SSD which I resolved yesterday. That kid is clearly playing on a potato and lying.

NewNewAccount,

At what framerate?

Piecemakers3Dprints,
@Piecemakers3Dprints@lemmy.world avatar

Lying at any framerate is still lying.

NuPNuA,

I’m shocked at home many PC users are still running HDDs given that SSDs have been standard ok consoles for three years now.

Viking_Hippie,

They’ve pretty much been standard for gaming and containing the os on PC for 5 if not more. HDDs are still good for storage, but only luddites and people trying to save money in the stupidest way would have their games on them.

rambaroo, (edited )

Playing on ultra on a 3060 ? So you’re getting 20-30 fps? Because that’s what it gets on mine with a much newer CPU. I had to turn it down to med-high to average 45 fps

Annoyed_Crabby,

Lol, dude used up all the money to get a GPU.

Vordus,

Considering that this thing runs great on a Series S (which is CPU-heavy, but with a weak graphics card) that makes so much more sense.

rambaroo,

Gotta love the Bethesda fanboys upvoting this one cherry picked comment. They’re are like 70 comments in there with all different combos of system specs complaining about performance.

FuntyMcCraiger, do games w Baldur's Gate 3 has ruined Starfield for me

It’s really weird reading an article that so precisely nails so many of my experiences with both games.

Naz, (edited )

Sam Coe: “Y’know, captain, I’ve been thinking, I’ve been talking about myself for a long time, but I’ve never really asked you about yourself. It seems to me that you’re a mute of some kind, and everyone just talks AT you, rather than TO you. So I’ve got to ask you, how does a Chef like yourself end up working for a mining company on Narion?”

[Camera turns 180° degrees to face the player like in BG3]

• My name’s FuntyMcCraiger and I used to run a restaurant before we ran into hard times.

You know, mining is a lot like cooking. I like mining rocks.

• That’s none of your business. After being mute for 80 hours, I’ve decided to have good dialogue and good writing because they paid their writers a living wage.

• Shut the fuck up, Sam Coe.

• Can you smell what the FuntyMcCraiger is cooking?

• Show Item [Opens Inventory]

• Flip Sam The Bird.

Poggervania,
@Poggervania@kbin.social avatar

choose any option

“Woah captain, that’s crazy. Anyways, I found another settlement - I’ll mark it here on your map.”

Naz,

A settlement needs our help, Captain.

Aux, do games w Todd Howard asked on-air why Bethesda didn't optimise Starfield for PC: 'We did [...] you may need to upgrade your PC'

I don’t know what your problem is, guys. When Skyrim was released, NVIDIA had GT 5xx series. Skyrim barely run at 40 FPS on Ultra on 1080p on a GT 560. Today, according to Gamers Nexus, Starfield runs at 60 FPS average on GTX 4060.

So, Starfield is better optimised than Skyrim was. Go buy a new GPU.

reddig33, do games w Todd Howard asked on-air why Bethesda didn't optimise Starfield for PC: 'We did [...] you may need to upgrade your PC'

If there’s an Xbox One version, then there’s really no excuse for it not to load on a PC with similar or better cpu/memory/graphics specs.

lustyargonian,

There isn’t.

reddig33,

Looks like you’re right. You have to scroll to the bottom of the Xbox page to see Xbox X and S as system requirement.

www.xbox.com/en-US/games/starfield

lustyargonian,

I think it was known since 2 years now, so maybe they didn’t bother publicizing it on the page. In fact, MSFT said they won’t be putting any games on Xbox One anymore.

Edgelord_Of_Tomorrow,

Did you mean Series S?

NuPNuA,

There isn’t, MS stopped supporting the One last year.

dan1101, (edited ) do gaming w Bethesda says most of Starfield's 1000+ planets are dull on purpose because 'when the astronauts went to the moon, there was nothing there' but 'they certainly weren't bored'

I’m an Elite Dangerous veteran and have no problem with that. I think it’s more realistic.

I’m about 18 hours in and the illusion of variety hasn’t worn off yet. Plenty of things to find, with some travel time though. Unlock/upgrade your backpack boosters and it’s almost like Tribes though, as you go flying across the landscape in short bursts to keep moving forward in the air.

ipha,

Shazbot!

thanks_shakey_snake,

“It’s almost like Tribes” are the four magic words to get me interested in any game.

Rodeo,

New match starts and half the team instantly spams

“I’ve got the flag!”
“I’ve got the flag!”
“I’ve got the flag!”
“I’ve got the flag!”

ipha,

“I am the greatest!”

“No.”

“I am the greatest!”

WhatWouldKarlDo,

Yeah, I’m right here with you. I’ve explored hundreds of systems in Elite. I get excited when I find an interesting planet. It would be really weird and immersion breaking for me if every planet was interesting.

hypelightfly,

Oddly enough, it's misleading. Planets are covered with procedural generated POIs what he meant is that the environment of most planets is barren. I wish there were actually unexplored planets that weren't covered in POIs too.

lorty,
@lorty@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Starfield at least lets me have some fun on foot. Elite built their ground component in a very punishing way that made it very annoying to deal with.

TwystedKynd, do games w Todd Howard asked on-air why Bethesda didn't optimise Starfield for PC: 'We did [...] you may need to upgrade your PC'

I’ve got a mid-grade PC and haven’t had any issues except the potato people with weird speaking animations and that ugly green filter over everything. Used a mod to take care of the second thing. While I am enjoying the game quite a bit, I’ve long wished that Bethesda could up their art style and animations. Thank fuck they got more than 5 voice actors now.

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