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Snapz, do games w Madden should not be 70$

This post reminded me, probably time for a new softdrinktv video on YouTube.

youtu.be/ka0OQPTr8rA

WarmSoda, do games w Madden should not be 70$

I got Madden 22 for free. It was the first Madden I’ve played since the 360. It was fun for about half a season and then everything falls apart.

legion, do games w Madden should not be 70$
@legion@lemmy.world avatar

Anytime I consider buying a Madden game, I watch a YouTube video of competitive play for the latest version. It always reveals how garbage the football sim part is. It’s all audibles and hot route spam and exploiting the useless AI in the same ways over and over again.

I’ll never buy a Madden game while all that crap is in there. They should make it so that spamming audibles and hot routes causes players to blow assignments and false start all the time, but the average “competitive” Madden player would probably die from nonstop crying and pants-soiling if EA did anything like that.

Mdotaut801,

That’s actually a brilliant solution. Wanna spam audibles? Flag, false start. Or like you said, botched assignments, perhaps a lineman fucks a protection and you take a sack.

Madden games are such trash, the last one I touched had Peyton Hillis on the cover. I’ve always assumed they’re still ass. I truly don’t know how people play sports games in general.

Katana314,

I don’t know what audibles are, but I’ve become increasingly interested in action-strategy type games that find ways to directly punish players that have high Actions Per Minute, encouraging people to take fewer, more deliberate movements. Kinda like combo rhythm in Arkham, rather than mashing X to attack.

Pratai, do games w Madden should not be 70$

Gatekeep much?

theworstshepard, do games w Madden should not be 70$

Are you maddening?

kemsat, do games w Madden should not be 70$

For like 20 years y’all have been buying the game, year after year, even if it’s not worth it.

legion,
@legion@lemmy.world avatar

Football video games were such a big part of my childhood in the 80s and 90s, but football video games died the day NFL2K died.

Ashtear,

See also: Pokémon.

I’ve always been bothered by the lack of competition (and anti-competitive behavior) in the football space.

acosmichippo, do games w Madden should not be 70$
@acosmichippo@lemmy.world avatar

Madden is worth whatever people are willing to pay for it.

Pxtl,
@Pxtl@lemmy.ca avatar

I’m reliably informed by people who really hate Overwatch that thinking like this makes you a chump for capitalism who is ruining the industry.

Strangle,

Capitalism works. There are markets who will pay for these and that’s why they are made. That’s what capitalism is.

If not for capitalism, these games wouldn’t even exist.

Now, the issue I think you’re worried about is that people begrudgingly pay for the game when they don’t really want to. Or pay more than they want to for it.

That’s not capitalism, that’s FOMO.

People make a ton of shit everyday that I don’t buy. But obviously someone is out there paying for this shit, or it wouldn’t be being made.

What do I care, or what do you care about it enough to even address?

If people don’t buy it, it either gets cheaper or it’s not made at all. So just don’t buy it. I haven’t bought a sports game in 20 years because of this. But they keep making them and people keep complaining about them.

Complain about yourselves, it’s not capitalism, it’s the consumers.

Pxtl,
@Pxtl@lemmy.ca avatar

Uh, I thought I was being pretty clear that I wasn’t the crazed anticapitalist, but I guess Poe’s Law.

Thedogspaw, do games w Madden should not be 70$
@Thedogspaw@midwest.social avatar

Madden is so dumb its literally the same game with one feature taken out and one feature reintroduced every year

greavous, do games w Madden should not be 70$

I’d say that’s its because there’s only really 1 country that’s going to buy it in large numbers but the reality is it’s the standard ea tax. Stop buying it every year or stop complaining.

sucricdrawkcab, do games w Madden should not be 70$

I buy Madden on sale every 2 years. Last year was the first time I bought it new since Madden 25. Same game with betterish graphics

Jagget, do gaming w Madden should not be 70$

If it should not, then stop buying for this price. Easy.

Pottsunami, do games w Madden should not be 70$

The only sports game worth buying is nba 2k. The graphics are way better. The franchise mode is a million times better. There is less glitches. Stop buying madden. Tell the NFL you dont want EA anymore

KickAssDuke,

*Wii Sports has entered the chat

Delusional,

I also enjoy FIFA. Certainly wouldn’t buy it full price but $5-$10 is worth it.

NOOBMASTER, do games w Madden should not be 70$

Not my problem really.

dmm, do games w Madden should not be 70$

It’s a free market. Just don’t buy it

SCB, do games w Madden should not be 70$

people should be paid more for their work!

things shouldn’t cost slightly more money!

Gotta pick one chief.

Vordus,

EA chose neither.

SCB,

Do you have a source on that? Because EA pays in the top 20-25% for their market.

www.comparably.com/companies/…/salaries

Vordus,

Part of me wants to argue that the games industry has a long-standing history of under-compensating workers, which makes being within the top 25% not particularly impressive, but instead I’m just going to admit that you caught me ragging on EA with an easy jab.

They did lay off a shed load of workers earlier this year mere days after announcing record profits though. Still, they’re not quite the miserable black hole that they were in the ‘EA Widows’ era when they were forcing unpaid overtime on a straight up illegal level.

orangeboats,

Cut the CEOs’ pay and you’ll be able to get both

SCB,

EAs CEO makes $20MM. They have 13k employees. That’s an $1100 raise, give or take, if you take every penny from the CEO. For the vast majority of their employees, that is less than a 1% raise.

So no, it won’t get you both, in any meaningful sense.

orangeboats,

I am pretty sure we don’t need to raise every employee’s wages. Some of the upper management who sit in their offices biting nails, for example.

The point is to reduce the wage inequality inside a company.

SCB,

So you want to raise the wages of the people making $140k per year but not $170k?

Why?

orangeboats,

Where did you pull those numbers from, then?

Edit: And yes, if you are not productive, you get paid less. That’s the whole point. If you are not 100x productive, you don’t deserve to get 100x the wages of a regular employee too.

SCB,

I googled median EA wages (gave me median, top 75%, etc), EA CEO pay and number of employees at EA and then did division

orangeboats,

If I follow your search terms, the first Google result is this. If the data were to be trusted, then most of the employees are absolutely paid much less than the “top positions”.

If you are taking the CEO’s income literally (without considering their assets), then you are hopeless.

SCB,

Yeah if you don’t work in CS you’re making at or near 100k and the math holds.

Compare the salary ranges with # of employees per role.

SCB,

People do not get paid based on production but based on value.

orangeboats,

And a guy sitting in their office biting nails all day is somehow much more valuable than the people developing the product. Sure, if you would believe in that.

SCB,

Who do you think is “biting their nails all day?” Like, which positions specifically.

Also game devs work in offices (or at home offices)

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