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TunaCowboy, do gaming w Peak graphic design
samus12345, do gaming w Peak graphic design
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“I can’t wait to see their next brilliant logo design!”

https://fontmeme.com/images/Wii-Logo.jpg

ಠ_ಠ

pacmondo,

But the “ii” part bows to you! Its revolutionary!

dis_honestfamiliar,

Oh I thought that was like “we” cuz you play alone most of the time.

edgemaster72,
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Random Nintendo execs show up to your house unannounced.

“We would like to play”

You stare at them blankly for a beat then shut the door in their faces. This is your time away from the world and its demands. No one will take that away from you.

frezik,

Just wait until you see the sequel to this one.

samus12345,
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Kiosade,

That whole era had really shitty design. “Sleek this, minimalist that. Only black/white/greys allowed”. Got old real fast.

JayDee,

My brain just did some work. Now I can’t unseen this as that manly handshake scene from Predator. The two 'i’s are the guys, and the ‘W’ is a zoom-in of their handshake.

Th3D3k0y, do gaming w Peak graphic design

I still contend that the GameCube controller is the best designed controller on the market in terms of comfort and usability.

The_Picard_Maneuver,
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Using different sizes and shapes for the buttons based on frequency of use (and to help new gamers not have to look down) was a really smart idea.

VindictiveJudge,
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Generally, but it has some issues. I found the C-stick to be very uncomfortable with the lack of a cap, and you can’t really press two face buttons at the same time unless one of them is A. The latter isn’t usually a problem, but certain games, like the Arkham series, would be virtually unplayable. That there’s only one shoulder button on one side is also pretty weird. The dual stage triggers are pretty neat, though, and the only other controller I’ve used with them is the Steam Controller, which has a pretty steep learning curve.

catloaf,

Yeah, figuring how to roll my fingers among the face buttons to do fancy stuff in Metroid Prime was tricky. I also like to use my thumbs to reach across the controller to the dpad and c stick on the opposite side so that I can change visors while on the move, for example.

Buddahriffic,

Yeah, it shows just how good of a game Metroid Prime was because it was still amazing despite very awkward controls.

iorale,

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  • Bgugi,

    @iorale

    I think steam controller has some shortcomings. Deck definitely has better controls.

    TachyonTele,

    The haptics are great on it. But the pads aren’t good replacements for sticks.

    TropicalDingdong,
    @TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world avatar

    Depends on the game. I couldnt play bg3 without pads. Really need both.

    offspec,

    I can’t play souls games on anything but a steam controller. The pads are so much better than a stick for camera movement, and the pads are incredibly useful with the games’ awkward layout for sprinting.

    funnystuff97,

    Currently playing Armored Core 6 with a Steam Controller, and I love it. But… the right track pad leaves a lot to be desired.

    The best aspect of the Steam Controller, without a doubt, is the modularity and shareability of it. The standard control scheme a game tries to assume, most of the time it stinks. But being able to browse through community-made control schemes and finding one that works for me is fantastic. The highest downloaded control scheme for AC6 got me 95% of the way there; I just had to change the bindings of the back pedals to suit me. Now it uses the track pad and the gyro in conjunction-- track pad for big sweeping movements and gyro for small adjustments-- and I love it.

    PM_Your_Nudes_Please,

    The C-stick and Z bumper are the two big weaknesses. If it had a proper twin-stick design instead of the C-stick nub, and actual bumpers that felt good, it would hands down be the best controller ever designed.

    TachyonTele, do gaming w Peak graphic design

    Nintendo take down of this post in 3…

    The_Picard_Maneuver,
    @The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world avatar

    There are a couple of men in monogramed red and green hats at my front door. Should I open it?

    TachyonTele,

    Just tell them you’re in another castle

    FantasmaNaCasca,

    The Peach Maneuver

    TachyonTele,

    Now that’s clever. Nicely done

    synae, do gaming w Peak graphic design
    @synae@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    Wait til they hear about the arrow in the FedEx logo

    Deconceptualist, do gaming w Peak graphic design

    It’s too derivative of the N64 logo if you ask me. Jk, they’re both pretty good.

    MagnyusG,

    The N64 logo was equally as creative maybe even more, with its 64 faces and 64 vertices.

    rwhitisissle, do gaming w Peak graphic design

    “This work of art, created by a corporate graphic designer for a video game system, is a work of art, created by a corporate graphic designer for a video game system.”

    Fascinating.

    Deconceptualist,

    I mean, it’s not disqualified from being art just because the artist got paid by a corporation. Historically most great artists were paid by monarchs, religious leaders, nobility, or wealthy merchants, who were all the power brokers of their time.

    But yeah the fact that this is a product branding logo has weird “hail corporate” vibes.

    rwhitisissle,

    I mean, it’s not disqualified from being art just because the artist got paid by a corporation.

    Please quote me where I said that it was.

    But yeah the fact that this is a product branding logo has weird “hail corporate” vibes.

    That and the fact that the observation itself is somewhat facile.

    Deconceptualist,

    I’m honestly not sure what you expected by clicking on this kind of post or what point you’re making. Of course it’s facile.

    You doing okay today?

    rwhitisissle,

    I’m honestly not sure what you expected by responding to this kind of comment or what point you’re making. I’d also ask you if you were doing okay if I felt like being condescending, but I’m not in the mood for it.

    TachyonTele,

    Why are you even here?

    rwhitisissle,

    Well my initial goal was pointing out how stupid OP’s post was but now that you’ve decided to engage with me I’d say it’s because of your positively magnetic personality and my near pathological need to bicker with people on the internet.

    then_three_more,

    How is the post stupid? Yeah, you correctly identified that it’s a corporate logo/art work. It’s still interesting and clever the design that’s gone into it.

    rwhitisissle,

    Well, for one, its relationship to “Gaming” is tenuous, at best. Two, it’s wholly superficial. There’s nothing even remotely conversation worthy here. “Look at this neat design.” Okay, and? What is the expected or desired response to that?

    TachyonTele,

    The logo design for a gaming consoles

    relationship to “Gaming” is tenuous, at best.

    I’m actually curious. In what world do you think a major game console has a tenuous relationship to gaming?

    rwhitisissle,

    You mean the console or the shape of its logo? Because those are different things. This is a discussion purely centered around graphic design for a gaming system’s logo. The graphic could be literally anything else and it wouldn’t change the console or its games. It’s like having a community dedicated to books and discussing those books and someone posting a picture of bookends, saying “look at these cool book bookends.” If someone said “that doesn’t have much to do with books” they would be (generally) right. It’s probably off topic for the intended subject matter of the community, in addition to being not very interesting. You might think that the logos for consoles is perfectly valid as a topic of discussion. In which case, great. Happy for you. I don’t agree and I elected to state that opinion.

    then_three_more,

    Well, for one, its relationship to “Gaming” is tenuous, at best

    I agree it would potentially be better in a mildly interesting or a graphics design based community. But it is related to gaming, even if tenuously.

    There’s nothing even remotely conversation worthy here. “Look at this neat design.” Okay, and? What is the expected or desired response to that?

    And yet multiple people have managed to make responses. Discussing the design in relation to other Nintendo designs etc.

    Just because you couldn’t think of something to add to the conversation doesn’t mean others couldn’t.

    rwhitisissle,

    And yet multiple people have managed to make responses.

    Yes, and their responses are either equally vapid or are things like “Wait until they hear about the FedEx logo.” My initial response was critical of the underlying nature of the post, and I would argue that this conversation we are having right now, is substantially better than any conversation being had about the logo itself. So I guess I did have something to add to the conversation, otherwise (wait for it) you wouldn’t have bothered responding to me. Would you?

    TachyonTele,

    Do it somewhere else.

    rwhitisissle,

    Casual reminder that you replied to me.

    TachyonTele, (edited )

    Yes I’m fully aware of how forums work. Now go away, no one wants you here.

    rwhitisissle,

    Nah.

    TachyonTele,

    There are some outliers on here today that are especially special.

    Noite_Etion,
    @Noite_Etion@lemmy.world avatar

    I love when people attempt to gatekeep what constitutes art.

    rwhitisissle,

    Quote me where I say it’s not art, please.

    NeatNit, do gaming w Peak graphic design

    I can hear this picture

    The_Picard_Maneuver,
    @The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world avatar

    Now I’m holding Z. Can you hear the difference?

    henfredemars,

    🐁🐁👶

    umbrella, (edited )
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    The_Picard_Maneuver,
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    Yeah, you could hold the Z button at startup and it would make squeaking sounds instead of the normal thing.

    magic_lobster_party,

    Now I’m holding Z on all 4 controllers.

    The_Picard_Maneuver,
    @The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world avatar

    I only recently learned about this one!

    I don’t remember anyone passing this trick around back in the day. Maybe because most people didn’t have 4 controllers?

    brbposting,
    KazuyaDarklight,
    @KazuyaDarklight@lemmy.world avatar

    Now I’m holding Z on all 4 controllers!

    Appoxo,
    @Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    I have the GB color, gamecube and og xbox intros set as boot intros on my steamdeck. Always a neat thing to look at.

    squirrel, do gaming w Peak graphic design
    @squirrel@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    It still bothers me that the cube inside the cube is bigger than the outer line, despite forming the outer line during the intro animation. It will never stop bothering me.

    catloaf,

    It’s in the foreground. The appearance of lining up with the rest is just an optical illusion, like the penrose triangle.

    otp, do gaming w "I am become death, the destroyer of worlds."

    I remember getting Rock Band songs for $1.99. The old ones even went down to $0.99 for a few years.

    Now, they’re about $3.50 and they’ve stopped releasing new ones.

    craigers, do gaming w "I am become death, the destroyer of worlds."
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    paultimate14, do gaming w "I am become death, the destroyer of worlds."

    For those who don’t know:

    “Horse armor is not bad. I think horse armor is fine. The price point, at the time, was the issue. We felt, it’s probably worth this,” he said. “I won’t say who at Microsoft said, ‘Well, that’s less than we sell a theme for; a wallpaper is more than that. You should charge this; you can always lower it.’ We were like, ‘Okay!’”

    Also it’s weird to me that Bethesda gets crap for their DLC’s. Oblivion’s horse armor was bad, but it wasn’t the worst or the first. Heck, Morrowind had expansions. MapleStory is pretty widely cited as the earliest form of micros transactions. And most of Bethesda’s DLC’s have been great- all 3 of Skyrim’s were ton of content relatively cheap.

    I guess that’s the price of popularity?

    kebabslob,

    Skyrim has plenty more than 3 DLC. Or do you mean to tell me anniversary edition and special edition are the same? Is Creation Club something you never heard of? I’m jealous

    paultimate14,

    Well… Yes pretty much. I don’t count Creation Club items because they weren’t made by Bethesda.

    I don’t turn them on. As far as I know you can find free alternatives for most of what is in the creation club- you’re just paying for to support the independent creators, the convenience, and I suppose the service of Bethesda filtering out some of the worst chaff of the mod scene.

    Similarly, I don’t count the other big fixes and upgrades in the Special Edition or Anniversary edition as DLC. Bethesda was rolling out patches for the original game before then, and visual upgrades are more in line with what I would call mods/remaster/remake than DLC.

    MindTraveller,

    I think Dawnguard, Dragonborn, and Hearthfire are all very good deals and I wouldn’t mind if games went back to that business model. I didn’t really like Serana’s personality and that’s really the only reason I didn’t like Dawnguard as much as Dragonborn and Hearthfire.

    DarkThoughts,

    Expansions are really not the same as "micro transactions" (now very much macro transactions). Expansions were typically content filled and had a fair price point, regardless if they shipped boxed on a CD or were packed into a digital download. Now we pay the price for a full sized expansion for a single cosmetic in some games.

    clearedtoland, do gaming w "I am become death, the destroyer of worlds."

    Picard, my friend. I don’t know history well enough to know if MSFT was involved or not based on our colleagues comments below but I most certainly agree that the horse armor was a reckoning, and dawn of a depressingly fraught new era.

    The_Picard_Maneuver,
    @The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world avatar

    And to think we laughed at it then.

    rem26_art, do gaming w "I am become death, the destroyer of worlds."
    @rem26_art@fedia.io avatar

    I remember laughing at people buying horse armor when Oblivion came out, and now I'm glued to the screen watching streamers drop $300 on gacha game pulls

    Jimbo,
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    I remember laughing at people buying horse armour. Now I’m just sad at the state of everything.

    NOT_RICK, do gaming w "I am become death, the destroyer of worlds."
    @NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

    Microsoft didn’t own Bethesda back then, am I missing something?

    DeathbringerThoctar,

    You aren’t but I think OP might be

    tacosanonymous,
    @tacosanonymous@lemm.ee avatar

    Perhaps, that person stayed with Bethesda long enough to be an M$ employee?

    Tyoda,

    Maybe it’s supposed to be the catalyst to Bethesda’s downfall, allowing M$ to buy it on the cheap?

    Ephera,

    I believe, there was some special overlay on the XBOX to allow buying it directly ingame. Maybe Microsoft was involved there?

    CaptainEffort,

    Microsoft was massive back then too and interacted with a lot of various studios. They notoriously forced Valve to charge money for their free Left 4 Dead dlc because they thought it would set a bad precedent.

    So I wouldn’t be surprised if some Microsoft employee inspired the horse armor dlc.

    thesmokingman,

    ZeniMax was doing dumb shit long before Microsoft. Bethesda has had a clueless culture for more than a decade. 2019’s disastrous performance across almost all verticals not only showed how clueless both BGS and ZeniMax were, it also paved the way for the Microsoft acquisition so Altman could get his bag. Todd Howard and Pete Hines let their original successes go to their heads and forgot the market changes.

    CaptainEffort,

    True, but it’s not just clueless. It’s malicious too.

    I’ll never forget how they originally introduced paid modding through Steam, then apologized when people got mad, only to bring it back with the Creation Club years later when the anger died down.

    They literally only apologized so they could calm people down and do it again later - it was a flat out lie. They tried to justify it with Pete Hynes arguing with people on Twitter, swearing up and down that CC content were “mini-dlcs”, not mods, so they actually upheld their promise. It was a bs excuse.

    But at least they had an excuse. Recently they straight up allowed paid mods on their store, without excuses, dropping the mask entirely. Proving once and for all that their apology meant nothing and that they’d monetize the modding scene no matter what.

    And let’s not forget Fallout 76 and all the shady shit surrounding that…

    DarkThoughts,

    Left 4 Dead dlc

    L4D2?

    CaptainEffort,

    No

    puchaczyk,

    DLC was originally released for Xbox 360, so Microsoft might have some influence here, though I wouldn’t underestimate the greediness of Bethesda.

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