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emax_gomax, do games w This should be illegal

Game preservation is dying because of DRM. You want games you can still play in 10 years, pirate that sht and donate to those keeping up the good art of game cracking. It’s either that or buying remakes a decade later that are just thinly reskinned. I can live with sht like denuvo since newer games just remove it after a year and then I can buy it. Storefronts like uplay or egs that are dependent on a malignant profit only entity are at best mid-term rentals and at worst spyware you have to pay for the privilege to use.

twoface_99,

Furthermore, if you don’t want to pirate: Buy your games on GoG. They are DRM free and you don’t need the launcher to play (GoG Galaxy is amazing though btw)

spacecowboy, do games w This should be illegal

Is this a Facebook game…?

Duamerthrax,

Yup. They’re complaining about a Facebook game. No fucking shit that company will unceremoniously end support. Everyone who bought into Zuck’s vision deserves what they’re getting.

NightAuthor,

I hope you get the help you need.

Duamerthrax,

Well, I don’t use Facebook, so I don’t need help with that at least.

gawker.com/…/facebook-ceo-admits-to-calling-users…

Mark Zuckerberg admits in a New Yorker profile that he mocked early Facebook users for trusting him with their personal information. A youthful indiscretion, the Facebook founder says he’s much more mature now, at the ripe age of 26.

“They trust me — dumb fucks,” says Zuckerberg in one of the instant messages,

Knusper,

It’s developed by Facebook, but it’s not one of those in-browser games you might be thinking of. “Meta Quest” is their VR platform. So, while the quality might be similar, you do need to buy rather expensive gear to play this particular game…

sturmblast, do games w This should be illegal

I think illegal might be a little bit too far

Cryophilia,

Someone is very addicted to Facebook games rofl

Cryophilia,

I read more, and I changed my mind. I think it’s fair to require games to state a minimum time frame of support. Like say, a year. And if they cancel the game before then, you get a full refund including microtransactions etc.

FartsWithAnAccent,
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“You know that thing you legally purchased? We’re taking it away and you’re not getting your money back.”

CaptObvious, do games w This should be illegal

And this is why I only buy games that I can load on a PC and play without an internet connection.

iHUNTcriminals, do games w This should be illegal

It’s meta lol. It’s the devil.

TotalFat, do games w This should be illegal

Motor City Online all over again

doctordevice, (edited ) do gaming w ANTI-UNITY STRATEGY

This strategy can backfire if your game gets popular enough. If both versions are counted separately and they each pass 1mil downloads and the 12 month revenue threshold then you’re paying the higher per-install fee brackets twice.

To demonstrate, let’s imagine a game like this has 4 million installs in the first year and uses the Enterprise plan for the best pricing structure.

Scenario A: single version

  • First 1,000,000 @ $0.00: $0
  • 1,000,001-1,100,000 @ $0.125 : $12,500
  • 1,100,001-1,500,000 @ $0.06 : $24,000
  • 1,500,001-2,000,000 @ $0.02 : $10,000
  • 2,000,001-4,000,000 @ $0.01 : $20,000
  • Total cost: $66,500

Scenario B: two versions priced separately, 2 mil installs each

Each one is the first four lines above, so the total cost is $46,500*2 = $93,000

In either scenario, additional installs beyond these 4 million cost $0.01 each (regardless of which game it’s installed on). There’s a fine line of staying below the annual revenue thresholds (or not too far above) where this strategy does save you money.

drspod,

Couldn’t they just release green version and yellow version when they reach the first threshold, ad infinitum?

AngryCommieKender,

I’m holding out for fuchsia version

toynbee, do games w This should be illegal

In theory, Ross Scott is (or at least was) trying to get something done about this. youtu.be/tUAX0gnZ3Nw?si=acNlZLK8MRqKWwgh

JokeDeity, do games w This should be illegal

I’ve had that thought many times. I wish companies would release the source of games they discontinue instead of letting them completely die out.

mintiefresh, do games w This should be illegal

And this is why I have trust issues

Rai,

This is why I don’t touch anything fucking Facebook does

Ziglin, do games w This should be illegal

But then how can they force you to buy a new one?

schema, (edited ) do gaming w ANTI-UNITY STRATEGY

They have a clause in the announcement that if two games are sufficiently similar is content, they are counted as the same game.

How arethey are going to determine that you ask? Probably the same way they are using to determine install count: pulling it out of their ass.

pizzatodato, do games w This should be illegal

wtf is this this is impossible

ArchmageAzor, do games w This should be illegal
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“don’t worry, you can form a new 3-year attachment with Bogo 2 for just $29.99!”

Norgur,

Unless we sell less of it than the arbitrary sales number we used a bunch of estimated pseudo math on to ultimately guess. Because if we sell less than that number we pulled out of our rectums with a faulty Excel sheet, we'll just shut the thing down immediately. Because, you know... fuck you.

notabot, do games w This should be illegal

If people stopped renting games developers would start selling them again. Until then, the incentive is for them to keep pulling this nonsense.

There’s a difference between a game having online elements, such as a MMO, and games that require a connection just so they can keep charging you. Even in the first case though, you should own the client, and ideally it either has a single player mode, or the developer releases the code for a basic server when they shut it down.

kolorafa,

That’s why I stated that it should be illegal to promise product while selling a undefined time limited license, there should be a clear minimum time stated when you “buy a subscription” for (single player?) games.

notabot,

Fair, stating a time-to-live when you’re paying might make some people think twice. At this point though, I think people need to just not be paying unless they get to keep it permanently. Paying for access to the online portion is fine, but the rest should keep working and you should be able to get your data out of the developer’s system.

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