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Objection, do gaming w What a frightening suggestion...

Does this also apply to more fantasy oriented war games?

No, the ICRC is talking about video games that simulate real-war situations. It is not suggesting that this apply to games that portray more fictional scenarios such as medieval fantasy or futuristic wars in outer space.

A few media reported that certain virtual acts performed by characters in video games could amount to serious violations of the law of armed conflict. Is this correct?

No. Serious violations of the laws of war can only be committed in real-life. A person cannot commit a war crime simply by playing a video game.

www.icrc.org/en/doc/…/09-28-ihl-video-games.htm

RayOfSunlight, do gaming w What a frightening suggestion...

No, this is beyond ridiculous, videogames re not real life, they serve as an escape from relaity

DragonTypeWyvern,

Games as escapism is an unhealthy coping strategy, but so are hard drugs and they’re even more fun

henfredemars,

Escapism is an appropriate coping strategy for situations where you do not have influence over the outcome.

Where is the harm? Why care so much about things we cannot change?

Naturally, things get hairy when you have some influence but that influence is very small or difficult to measure.

p5yk0t1km1r4ge,
@p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.world avatar

BiDyA gAeMs BaD111one!!

PoliticalAgitator,
VindictiveJudge,
@VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world avatar

It’s still pretty dumb. What Senechaud is proposing is that not far off from the Hayes Code. He’s also suggesting going about it the hard way. Instead of simply proposing that players not be able to commit war crimes, he’s asking that there be an in-game system that punishes players committing war crimes in accordance with international law. His stance is also based on the premise that video games now have realistic enough graphics that they could be used to fake footage of real war zones. In no way does a video capture of Call of Duty resemble reality, even when players are deliberately trying to behave realistically due to a combination of things like walking animations still being kind of off, especially when starting or stopping, and gameplay concessions, like bullets spawning in blatantly incorrect positions when guns are shot. It’s really obvious he’s never played these games he’s complaining about.

Aqarius,

You say that, but Arma footage keeps being aired on the news.

Objection,

What Senechaud is proposing is that not far off from the Hayes Code.

I don’t think it’s so much that games depicting war crimes shouldn’t be allowed to exist, but rather wanting a game (or more games) to depict realistic consequences.

His stance is also based on the premise that video games now have realistic enough graphics that they could be used to fake footage of real war zones.

That’s not true at all. It’s not about faking footage, it’s about the games being realistic enough to feel immersive. From their website:

The ICRC is concerned that certain game scenarios could lead to a trivialization of serious violations of the law of armed conflict. The fear is that eventually such illegal acts will be perceived as acceptable behaviour.

If their concern was about fake footage, they’d be calling for it not to be depicted at all.

Shadowedcross, do gaming w What a frightening suggestion...

PDX players too.

billiam0202, (edited ) do gaming w What a frightening suggestion...

Warframe players: That’s not a war crime. This is a war crime!

Murders an entire battalion with biochemical weapons

nicolauz,

Hey!

I mean, yes you’re right, but: hey!

DontMakeMoreBabies,

Sort of makes me want to play.

billiam0202,
  1. You gotta love grindy looter-shooters
  2. The game doesn’t do a lot of directing new players, so you gotta be willing to ask other players and read the wiki to figure out what you should be doing.

Assuming those don’t faze you, the community is one of the best and the story is really good- once you get that far.

DontMakeMoreBabies,

I've been putting a bunch of time into Battlebit, so I dig shooters, and I am an old Eve player so I'm used to 'Fuck you' level of support for newbs...

Is it something you can drop in/out of? Don't have a lot of straight blocks of time to dedicate to gaming these days (which is partially why I like battlebit so much).

billiam0202,

On a micro level, it’s very easy to jump in and out when you feel like it. Each mission usually takes under 10 minutes even for fresh players, while a veteran can blitz through some missions in under 90 seconds. You can choose to play either solo or in up to a four-player squad, and if you are in a squad you can get a share of the xp from kills your mates get. Loot is instanced so you never have to worry about fighting to get what you see on the ground.

On a macro level, it’s a free-to-play looter shooter, with all the good and bad that entails. You have about a billion different types of resources you need to craft new weapons and frames, and almost every time new content is added new resources are too (to force veterans to engage in that content). Some things in the game are timegated heavily- for example, once you have the parts and resources to craft a new frame, it takes at a minimum 3 and a half real time days to craft it (unless you pay to skip that, or just buy the frame outright from their shop). The drop rates for some of the things you want might mean you’d take a while to get them if you’re not playing a lot- DE has a published list of the drop chances and the wiki lists the expected number of times you’d have to do an activity before you’d get that item, but I do want to stress the grindy looter-shooter part of the game.

Most of the real-money transactions are in the form of skipping time gates or pure cosmetics. I personally feel their monetization is fair for the most part.

All it all, it’s a F2P game. Go ahead and try it if it sounds fun, and if you don’t like it all you’ve lost is some time.

cows_are_underrated,

The monetisation is great. The market also allows you to get Platin without the need of spending money and you therefore don’t have to grind everything and simply buy some stuff with Platin you earned from selling your spare stuff.

lightnsfw,

It is grindy but for the most part not so grindy that it gets boring unless RNG really fucks you. You can accomplish most individual goals (ie. Farming parts for a particular gun or frame) within a few hours. Also you need pay to win currency for some things but its easy to get items you can sell to other players for that so really you don’t need to spend money on the game at all. It’s a lot of fun. I probably have more time in Warframe than just about anything else. Except maybe Wow.

thejoker954,

Genocidal space ninja FTW.

otp, do gaming w Ooga Booga

I thought this was going to be a post about the game Ooga Booga, and now I’m disappointed

setsneedtofeed, do gaming w What a frightening suggestion...
@setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world avatar

Oh cool, so you get medals right?

catloaf,

When you beat someone 1v1, you get to keep their PC.

VirtualOdour,

Yes, a lot of the games you can get medals.

Have you never played a game?

therealjcdenton, do gaming w Justice

Bro coded battletoads

voracitude, do gaming w What a frightening suggestion...

I had to look this up. It’s from 2013 and it’s a blog post, but it’s real:

theguardian.com/…/red-cross-players-accountable-w…

perviouslyiner,

Then they got an Arma DLC which is effectively a red cross training course [story]

VirtualOdour,

Over a decade of knee-jerk gamers responding without reading the article, how time flies

It’s stuff like this getting flung around that helps me remember no one cares about reality

RizzRustbolt, do gaming w What a frightening suggestion...

This is why I only play zombie shooters. That way I’m only killing the concept of death.

Kolanaki,
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You could also say you’re a doctor fighting against an epidemic.

CptEnder,

racks shotgun the doctor will see you now

meldrik, do gaming w What a frightening suggestion...

I am always the good guy in games! If anyone asks…

DrWeevilJammer,
@DrWeevilJammer@lemmy.ml avatar

“Everyone liked that”

RightHandOfIkaros,

The Bad Guys always think of themselves as the Good Guys…

Kolanaki,
!deleted6508 avatar

“I always play the good guys!”

“Which faction do you side with in Fallout?”

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/85/2c/45/852c451bc7728cf02728fc8e29f85e58.gif

9point6, do gaming w Priorities

I think this is the third reference to quest 64 I’ve seen in a few days now

What is going on

The_Picard_Maneuver,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world avatar

Ok, so I found a novelty account on X/Twitter (“Quest 64 Official”) that has been spreading Quest 64 memes and think it’s hilarious, so I’ve been reposting them to Lemmy.

(There will almost certainly be more)

9point6,

Okay, understood, keep up the good work

RavenFellBlade,
@RavenFellBlade@startrek.website avatar

Ooof. X? You sacrifice your mental health for the good of the many, Sir. I offer you a Spock for your efforts.

The_Picard_Maneuver,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world avatar

I like to think I’m immune to anything people could post from my time on the early days of the internet, but yeah, it’s like a sea of totally unfiltered opinions/content over there. There are still a lot of good fandoms, memes, news, etc., but you have to also scroll through conspiracies, political astroturfing, and every hateful thought that someone decided to write today.

Fortunately it’s not the only place I casually scour for content for the fediverse.

therealjcdenton,

You’ve officially made the most reddit comment I’ve seen in a long time

RavenFellBlade,
@RavenFellBlade@startrek.website avatar

Old Reddit before the dumpster fire was lit, I hope!

tigeruppercut,
jecht360,
@jecht360@lemmy.world avatar

Thank you for that, definitely an interesting read. I like that they mention that even unpopular games may have people that love it.

Bruncvik, do gaming w What a frightening suggestion...
@Bruncvik@lemmy.world avatar

Given how many times I genocided entire nations in Civilization, I guess they’d better send me a one-way ticket to Nuremberg.

icesentry, do games w I have a level that is a tribute to The Stanley Parable in my game, here is my progress. Any feedback?

I don’t see how this is supposed to be inspired by the stanley parable. Also, please don’t force chromatic aberation on players.

Road_Warrior_10,

Do you remember the boss office in SP?

dsemy, do games w I have a level that is a tribute to The Stanley Parable in my game, here is my progress. Any feedback?

Looks cool. Kinda hard to understand your post though, to be honest.

Road_Warrior_10,

Just showing my progress.

intensely_human, do games w I have a level that is a tribute to The Stanley Parable in my game, here is my progress. Any feedback?

Put some floating shelves above the cabinets to break up that vertical space. You can put some knick knacks up there.

Road_Warrior_10,

Good idea, thank you! : )

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