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Sanctus, do games w Random Screenshots of my Games #33 - The Complex
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This is like that film Bandersnatch that was on Netflix. Might have to check this one out.

PunchingWood, do games w World of Warcraft adds $90 mount to in game store

Not even a new trend in WoW either.

Can’t even blame Blizzard, it’s the people who keep buying this shit that are actually the problem.

If these wouldn’t sell in the store they could’ve been items to obtain through in-game activities (which don’t require eternal grind).

spankmonkey,
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Can’t even blame Blizzard, it’s the people who keep buying this shit that are actually the problem.

Blizzard is the problem because they are implementing the macrotransaction. The people who buy it are enablers but not the real problem.

PunchingWood,

Transactions are from two parties, if the product didn’t sell they wouldn’t keep doing it. The product wouldn’t exist if it failed to sell in the first place.

Plenty of shitty products in the world that never get sold, and then stop being produced.

spankmonkey,
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“People who keep buying from McDonald’s despite an e coli outbreak are the real problem!”

PunchingWood,

That’s no comparison. McDonalds doesn’t sell the infected products intentionally.

CileTheSane,
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Can’t even blame Blizzard, it’s the people who keep buying this shit that are actually the problem.

Por que no dos?

I have room in my heart to hate both groups.

Euphorazine, do games w World of Warcraft adds $90 mount to in game store

It’s actually more insidious. Blizzard facilitates gold buying by being a middle man. 30 days of wow subscription is $15. Blizzard sells a $20 wow token. Buyers of the token automatically sell it in game to players for gold. Players who sell their In game gold can redeem the token for game time or $15 Blizzard bucks, which can buy any virtual item in the Blizzard store. Games, expansions, and mounts such as this.

If you don’t want to spend $90 in real life, you can sell your gold for 6 tokens for $90 Blizzard bucks and get the mount.

The token has been hovering around $170k all month and now it spiked to almost $360k (token price tracker). So now cash buyers can get way more gold for their bucks, and the 6 tokens exchanged for gold (to buy the mount) will net Blizzard $120.

Katana314,

I’ve known about the gold tokens system, it has made sense as a way to invalidate black market gold sellers, equalizing WoW gold against the US Dollar. Still don’t quite understand why the token would now sell for 170k though…? Unless you didn’t mean to use the dollar symbol.

TrousersMcPants, (edited )

They probably meant 170k gold in-game

Also what they haven’t said is that the price is set by players of the game,. When someone buys a WoW token and exchanges it for gold, that’s because a player has paid them with gold they earned for the token. These tokens can be then used to pay for your monthly subscription.

glimse,

You are correct. Token value is decided by players on the auction house, not Blizzard, though I’m sure someone will argue that they are capable of manipulating the AH and therefore they are driving it up

TrousersMcPants,

They are capable of it, but I don’t really see why they would. Making the tokens cost more gold would mean less people willing to buy them on the AH and therefore less people selling tokens. I think the prices have just exploded because of the mount releasing. As someone else mentioned on here, I believe Blizzard just sets a minimum price for tokens.

Promethiel,
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Those amounts aren’t USD yeah, probably habit when writing down money. The 170k and 360k figures are the WoW virtual currency aka “gold”.

There is a floor to WoW token’s gold value from what I recall (it’s been years since I interacted with Blizzard and WoW) but no ceiling.

Dunno how hard it curbed bots/unsanctioned gold sellers/fascist scum grassroots campaigns (no, really, look into Stephen Bannon and WoW gold it’s so fucking stupid) but!

Blizzard absolutely realized and then moved to take all the money that was being left on the table from 3rd party virtual currency sales, and they apply every measure and analytical tool to maximize that profit because of course.

This mount’s release is literally them inflating the price of the virtual currency ahead of real life earnings calls, because it absolutely will sell and give them the revenue infusion that the WoW token’s rise in value is meant to provide for as long as they want until it’s time to pump the numbers again with another mount/high sought store item.

A very similar variant in form and function to this mount was once available in-game and trade able with a rarity tuned that it ended up being sold for the WoW Token equivalent of ~$500 at the prices at the time, as there was no store version or similar option elsewhere.

It’s no accident that when the price of the WoW Token is at its lowest, here comes a slightly updated and dolled up version of that same highly sought mount version.

WoW is where real economics, car ownership culture, hoarding, and dopamine treadmills collide and Blizzard doesn’t just know this but have it charted on 5 year plans.

Reygle, do games w World of Warcraft adds $90 mount to in game store
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On the up side, it’s now very, VERY easy to tell who is an idiot in the main hub cities within 10 seconds of the auction house.

EatATaco,

Be careful judging because there will be plenty of people here who will think “anyone still playing the game is an idiot.”

GeneralEmergency,

“Everyone is an idiot except me”

Reygle,
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Tell me you wasted 90 dollars without telling me you wasted 90 dollars

glimse,

A lot of people have been playing this game for over a decade and have hundreds of millions of gold. This thing is currently 2 million gold

Jax, (edited ) do games w World of Warcraft adds $90 mount to in game store

5 million gold costs about 220 bucks right now. If I’m not mistaken that was the price of the AH mount back in BFA, no?

90 bucks for this mount is actually at a massive bargain, we’re talking 40% of what it’s actually worth. Like I get it, you think it’s scummy but… idk, if I still played WoW I would probably buy it - and I doubt I would regret it. That being said, I do not play anymore and will not come back for the mount lol.

Like, technically speaking they could charge double what they’re asking and it would still be cheaper than the BFA AH mount.

Edit: Mad because bad at math.

recursive_recursion, do games w World of Warcraft adds $90 mount to in game store
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Unfortunately this seems to be a rising trend for AAA studios/games: Riot Said The Quiet Part Out Loud.

Buttflapper,

That’s totally wild

yamanii,
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I remember when this privilege was reserved for free games since it was how they made their money, but like Sterling says: they can’t just make money, they can’t make enough money, they gotta make all of the money.

CileTheSane,
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There’s also the fact that people will pay for it. Would you take a million dollars to let your favorite game put a skin of you in it holding a sign saying “I care more about the money I made from this skin than the quality of this game”?

I hate the practice, but I despise the fact that it always turns out to be so damn profitable.

drmoose, do games w World of Warcraft adds $90 mount to in game store

it’s selling well too though it’s actually 78$. They put Mailbox and Auction House on it which AFAIK the only mount that has both which is incredibly valuable.

If not the fuction I wouldn’t mind but because the function is so valuable it’s really poor form by Blizzard. I even love the mount and buy it as cosmetic but I’m not supporting this at the state it is currently.

Lesrid,

There was a green mount similar to this one they added in BFA for a large sum of gold. But they claimed to dislike how it encouraged so many people to play the market and removed it.

TrousersMcPants,

They did not remove it, people still use them all the time and it’s available on the “black market” (an NPC that sells normally unavailable things) every so often. The mount was just an enormous gold sink for people with a ton of money.

CileTheSane,
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They put Mailbox and Auction House on it which AFAIK the only mount that has both which is incredibly valuable.

Create the problem, sell the solution.

DarkThoughts, do games w World of Warcraft adds $90 mount to in game store

What did you expect to happen after Diablo 4? lol

CileTheSane,
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What did you expect to happen after Diablo 4 immortal?

After Diablo Immortal I knew not to purchase Diablo 4 in the first month. After how profitable Diablo Immortal was of course this was going to be the way Blizzard continued to go.

This is why I’m more and more playing Indie games. The game has to be made by someone who wanted to make a fun game, as anyone with a profit incentive is just going to make Candy Crush and for some reason people will pay for it.

Voytrekk, do games w World of Warcraft adds $90 mount to in game store
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It’s going to sell like crazy. It’s not just that it’s a Mount, but it also has an auction house and mailbox that you can use anywhere at any time. The only other mount that has the AH is no longer attainable regularly, only on rare occasions for gold cap.

I am going to get it, but I’m going to use my gold in game to convert to bnet balance.

MirthfulAlembic,
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I was going to say who cares if they’re selling a mount skin, but if on-the-go access to the auction house and mailbox isn’t normally accessible, this seems shitty.

Voytrekk,
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The thing is, they won’t be able to sell a Mount like this again in the future. This is kind of a “break glass” type of situation.

glimse,

It’s one of the most overhyped things in the game. I can more than afford it (both through $$ and in-game currency) but I just do not care. There’s easy to get mailboxes and the auction house is in every main city now.

Not to mention the amount of people who have the original auction house mount and the influx of people with this one - it is barely a convenience.

thesmokingman,

I think it’s a terrible decision because of this. The whole point of hubs is to get players together and interacting. Putting AH and mail around hubs requires many players together. Giving folks a mount means the hubs stop being hubs and contributes to the continued decay of the multiplayer aspect.

Take this with a grain of salt. When I last played hubs still mattered. If that isn’t currently the case this is just old fart complaints.

draneceusrex, do games w World of Warcraft adds $90 mount to in game store
casmael, do games w World of Warcraft adds $90 mount to in game store

TIL world of Warcraft still exists

Jaderick, do games w World of Warcraft adds $90 mount to in game store

0 chance this revenue gets reinvested back into the game lmao

Blue_Morpho, do gaming w Was the FF black mage the first to do this?

First was Orko from He-Man.

buycurious,

Thank you, was looking to see if someone recognized the OG.

bran_buckler,

They’re not wizards, but did Jawas from Star Wars establish the aesthetic?

Blue_Morpho,

Jawas didn’t wear the wizard hat. Same reason Marvin doesn’t fit.

OCATMBBL,

Looking at the picture above, hoods seem to count. If not, then half of them don’t apply to the rule.

Cephalotrocity,

Marvin the Martian from Looney Tunes youngling!

Floodedwomb,

Not a wizard.

Cephalotrocity,

Is a wizard someone that uses magic?

Floodedwomb,

It’s definitely not an alien using a disintegration ray.

Cephalotrocity,

So a wizard isn’t someone that uses magic? What is your definition of Wizard?

Klear,

I’ll have to ponder on that.

RizzRustbolt,

Any significantly advanced science is indistinguishable from magic.

WhiskyTangoFoxtrot,

If his science was sufficiently advanced it would’ve been able to produce an earth-shattering kaboom.

Blue_Morpho,

Marvin didn’t have the wizard hat.

Cephalotrocity,

How dare you project your limited idea of what a wizard hat is on Marvin!

Klear,

He did, but only in bed.

BluesF,

I think he just has a small very dark coloured head. He’s not just eyes in shadow in a hood, he has a round head… it’s just black.

Cephalotrocity,
BluesF,

Ok not small, but yes, it’s a ball not a void imo

Ensign_Crab,

Sufficiently advanced technology.

JoMiran,
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Came in here to defend Orko’s legacy. Was not disappointed.

HubertManne, do games w World of Warcraft adds $90 mount to in game store

WHALE HO!

Akasazh, (edited ) do gaming w Was the FF black mage the first to do this?
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What’s the mid right one with the light blue robe and beige hat?

I recognize him but fail to remember from where

fearpanic,

Vivi - Final Fantasy IX

BenVimes,

More generally, it’s a Black Mage from the Final Fantasy series, of which Vivi is one.

I actually don’t believe the one in OP’s picture is Vivi, who normal has more adornments on his clothing . It looks more like an older version of the class, like this one from FFIV artwork.

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