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ouch, do games w Day 101 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I’ve been playing until I forget to post Screenshots

Is No Man’s Sky still “a mile wide and an inch deep”? What are the basic gameplay loops?

MyNameIsAtticus,
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I would say at this point it’s much better. the recent updates have helped to mitigate the issue of planets looking the same a ton. For the gameplay loop, At least for me, is very similar too launch (Go to new planet, do your preferred task to earn money. For me i use my freighter and my crew too collect goods and trade them in different systems and i also Archive animals and flora. And then I move to another system).

But they have also added more to do in that cycle too. For example, I typically break up the gameplay loop by returning to my base i built and tending to the NPCs that live there and also to use the facilities i constructed. I also manage a fleet from my freighter to send them on missions. On top of that there is the Anomaly which now has a ton of community things to do. There’s also different factions to join and get your rank up with.

It’s definitely improved a ton, i would say with it’s nature though it may not be for everyone

Zachariah, (edited ) do gaming w Maybe from 2005 to about 2013?
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We didn’t use the word “fire” like that back then.

rob_t_firefly,
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Zachariah,
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well, us nerds didn’t

Harvey656,

I did. Caught in in high school around 2010

Zachariah,
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Well, us old nerds didn’t.

Harvey656, (edited )

Whatcha tryin to say old timer. /s

GooseFinger, do gaming w Maybe from 2005 to about 2013?

Here’s my attempt with no Googling https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/97669ab6-853b-4c14-9260-ffd0e105d217.jpeg

Edit - that’s GTA 4 not SA, I thought that didn’t sound right

rickyrigatoni,

Mgs4 is the upper and the lower is 3

GooseFinger,

Nice. The only ones I played were on PS1 so I’m unfamiliar with the newer ones haha

BradleyUffner, do gaming w Maybe from 2005 to about 2013?

I’ll take well-done, slightly monotone visuals over the psychedelic rainbow barf a lot of today’s games are covered in.

Lemminary, (edited )

I won’t buy their shit anymore, but props to Nintendo’s designers for tasteful rainbow barf like Super Mario Galaxy.

yamanii,
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Rainbow barf all day everyday

TriflingToad, do gaming w Maybe from 2005 to about 2013?

shout-out to Just Cause 3 for being colorful. On an HDR display it’s BEAUTIFUL. Also exploding bad guys is fun af

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/9a360231-ea36-4c99-a6ea-66bd0a36d4f4.jpeg

I must point out though ITS SO FUN

thedirtyknapkin,

yeah, but that’s a whole generation after this. most games were colorful by then. especially once hdr started to come around.

games like crysis 3 and far cry 4 really helped break the trend.

I’d say crysis is almost the exact inflection point. look at it, it still has a lot of that brown aesthetic, but it’s colorful and has bright skies and giant lens flairs. the lens flairs especially became part of the norm moving forward.

nforminvasion,

It’s SO CHAOTIC AND I LOVE IT

glimse, do games w World of Warcraft adds $90 mount to in game store

Ok so I cackled when I saw the price on this thing but the more I thought about it, the less shitty it is. FWIW I am not a WoW lifer or Blizzard apologist. I got talked into Classic for a year then played a month or two of each expansion since before quitting but I know the background of the story. It looks way worse from an outsider perspective.

You could buy the original auction house mount for 5 million gold back in the day. It stopped being available regularly and now it’s available occasionally in the “black market auction house” and it always sells for the maximum bid.

To combat Chinese gold farmers, Blizzard started selling gold in a bit of a roundabout way. For $20, you can buy a WoW token to sell on the auction house. This token can be purchased by a player and traded for 1 month of game time. Some players dont pay a dime to play - gold is not hard to acquire.

When this new mount came out, WoW tokens were worth about 200k gold. You’d need to exchange them for 5 tokens to get this mount. 1/5 of the original price.

Now tokens are worth 330k. 1.65m golf. STILL significantly cheaper than it was originally.

Tokens will need to rise to triple in price to match the original cost which will still be a tiny fraction of what it cost a month ago.

By far the shittiest thing about this - and I think the only real reason to complain - is that the rising value of the token hurts players who pay for the subscription purely with gold as it adds a few hours to their “working” time in game. For context, watching TV and semi-afk farming will get you like 50k/hour. You can earn way, way more if you’ve leveled up a profession.

The other (not so bad) thing I don’t like about it is that…I hate those mounts. They’re HUGE and people just AFK on them blocking NPCs I want to talk to.

Jax,

Crazy how I just detailed this exact thing in a different comment and got downvoted for it.

glimse,

People are just looking for a reason to be mad

Sylvartas,

The other (not so bad) thing I don’t like about it is that…I hate those mounts. They’re HUGE and people just AFK on them blocking NPCs I want to talk to.

TFW the year is 2024 AD and blizzard still has not properly addressed this

glimse,

Important NPCs have a dismount aura but if they have that to any NPC with dialogue, you’d get dismounted a hundred times a day

Sylvartas,

Oh yeah, I actually remember that from the last time I relapsed (Legion). I was wondering if I hallucinated that workaround… But it’s still just that : a stupid workaround. It baffles me that it is seemingly impossible for them to implement a keybind that targets the nearest “interactive” npc in range

glimse,

There is, the Interact With Target and Soft Target settings

Sylvartas,

Hmmm, okay. Added in dragonflight, apparently.

Well I guess I can finally shut up about this incredibly minor issue

Backlog3231,

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  • glimse,

    Even if that didn’t come with a bunch of annoying downsides, how would that solve the problem better than dismount auras?

    Skates,

    It hurts to do this, because you’ve obviously thought out your comment and you obviously like the game and want to believe the devs are doing their best. But I think your entire premise is wrong

    To combat Chinese gold farmers, Blizzard started selling gold in a bit of a roundabout way

    Why do you think this? Why do you grant a greedy game dev the benefit of the doubt? They’re cashing in on Chinese gold farmers in all possible ways, man:

    1. By allowing their accounts to exist instead of banning and moving on
    2. By controlling the value of gold with a cash shop, ensuring economy is in their favor
    3. The cash shop also brings them monetary value.

    They are triple dipping, and you choose to believe they are doing it because they’re a good game dev.

    A good game dev would ban accounts guilty of real money trading. A good game dev would fix the in-game economy with in-game methods. A good game dev wouldn’t have micro transactions in a subscription game. You want to believe Blizzard is doing this because of those evil Chinese farmers - I’m here to tell you they’re profiting from this and don’t have the morals to make it right.

    glimse, (edited )

    Did you maybe consider that they did…both? Gold in the cash shop comes with a very minor downside to players and a big upside.

    And where did I imply that I thought they did this for the players?

    radicalautonomy,
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    To combat Chinese gold farmers, Blizzard started selling gold in a bit of a roundabout way. For $20, you can buy a WoW token to sell on the auction house. This token can be purchased by a player and traded for 1 month of game time. Some players dont pay a dime to play - gold is not hard to acquire.

    To combat Chinese gold farmers, Blizzard started selling gold in a bit of a roundabout way. For $20, you can buy a WoW token to sell on the auction house. This token can be purchased by a player and traded for 1 month of game time. Some players dont pay a dime to play - gold is not hard to acquire.

    Eve Online has been doing that since 2008.

    parrhesia,

    The price of the tokens crashed by the way. Is now 258k

    MonkderVierte, do gaming w Maybe from 2005 to about 2013?

    I had multiple RPG where i literally removed a grayisch-brownish layer with a few reshade shaders. And made it more crisp.

    cobysev, do games w Random Screenshots of my Games #34 - Happy's Humble Burger Farm
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    I’ll be honest, just going over training on how to properly cook and assemble a burger brought back PTSD from my teen years… 😭

    Mandy, do games w World of Warcraft adds $90 mount to in game store

    they are starting to employ the star citizen model it seems with how cultlike wow sometimes felt im surprised it took that long

    TwoBeeSan, do gaming w Maybe from 2005 to about 2013?

    This was way worse than when every character was getting a bow and arrow because hunger games

    Lycist, do gaming w Was the FF black mage the first to do this?

    Not quite as old as Orko from '86, but did no one play Loom in the early 90’s?

    Musical fabric of reality wielding mages. If you looked under their hood you’d be sucked in and eaten.

    https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/f2e27ab7-8c65-4e07-8d04-e6f5d427441e.png

    The_Picard_Maneuver,
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    I’ve never heard of this game, but the art style makes me nostalgic.

    Lycist,

    Oh man, it was great. Old point and click adventure type, you went around collecting spells from the environment. Great story at the time.

    mormund, do gaming w Maybe from 2005 to about 2013?

    Ah the dark days before PBR… If only gameplay had also evolved with graphics.

    Albbi,

    Before the Professional Bull Riders drank Pabst Blue Ribbon while shooting at Point Blank Range?

    bjoern_tantau, (edited )
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    Physics based rendering. Basically good texture shaders that work like materials work in the real world. Since that has been developed artists working with computer graphics in movies and games more or less don’t have to worry about making something look realistic.

    Every texture has values for color, reflectivity, subsurface scattering, fresnel, roughness and probably a ton more values I forgot. That gives you everything real light does when hitting a surface.

    I think Wreck it Ralph was one of the first movies to use the techniques. I remember reading something to that effect alongside tutorials on how to get PBR into Blender. I think it took very little time for PBR to get into basically every graphics software. And nowadays when you buy textures they all come with different textures to set the correct values for PBR.

    rhombus,

    I don’t think PBR would have saved these games from the awful post-processing. These are just examples of really bad color grading.

    The_Picard_Maneuver,
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    Anticorp, do gaming w Maybe from 2005 to about 2013?

    In the future, the only colors left are shades of rust brown.

    yamanii, do games w World of Warcraft adds $90 mount to in game store
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    I saw people being mad not because they are selling a 90$ mount, but because now everyone can just have it instead of grinding 5 million gold lol.

    greedytacothief,

    Showing off is an important part of social MMOs. If anyone can have the really cool looking thing for some cash then what’s the point of grinding? For a hardcore player, what do they have to show off their prestige?

    It’s pretty important for an MMO to respect its most active players. Not to mention, what do new players have to look up to? To think, what do I have to get that? If the answer is “oh I just have to fork out some dough”. That’s kinda disappointing

    Anticorp,

    It’s pretty important for an MMO to respect its most active players

    WoW chased them off years ago. They cater towards casual players now, and don’t want the lifers.

    greedytacothief,

    I’m not particularly active, but I still left for OSRS a long time ago

    glimse,

    That is so untrue lol

    End game content - the stuff that “makes” wow - is tuned for active players, not casuals. They are catering to casual players in a way that doesn’t significantly affect hardcore players…unless you think there should be huge barriers of entry to the most basic things?

    Rolder,

    What a load of nonsense. Wows endgame raids and dungeons are the best and most active of any MMO available and those are exclusively for the active players

    Anticorp,

    Access to raids and gearing for success in those raids is easier now than ever before. Just getting access to a raid used to be a time consuming endeavor. Do you remember attunement? Or leveling lock picking on your rogue for a week so you could circumvent a key that was unavailable? Or finding a 5 person group who was able and willing to complete a dungeon and then traveling through hostile territory to get to the entrance? All of that is gone. It’s gone because they hope to entice more casual players, despite the fact that those things were challenging, and fun, and added a lot of uniqueness to each person’s abilities and experiences.

    ysjet,

    What? FF14 is currently running laps around wow’s sub numbers, wow hasn’t been the most active MMO available since before bfa and the bootlicking cratered it.

    Rolder,

    I’d really love to know where you are getting your numbers from. I find it hard to believe that the game where the last expansion is tanking in the review score as compared to prior expansions is beating wow

    Lightor,

    I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or not…

    Rolder, (edited )

    I’m not. People keep saying FF14 but neither reports their numbers…

    Edit: But the parsing sites such as warcraft logs and ff logs all clearly indicate WoW is more active.

    FFXIV definitely has the edge in the gooner crowd though.

    HawlSera, do games w World of Warcraft adds $90 mount to in game store

    That’s a cool as fuck mount…

    And it’s not worth what I could spend to get one AAA game and two decent quality Indie Games

    Noodle07,

    Costs 3 factorio dlc

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