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Lizardking27, do gaming w Fallout 4 Fans Are Begging Bethesda To Stop Updating The Game

No, they’re not.

warm, do gaming w Fallout 4 Fans Are Begging Bethesda To Stop Updating The Game

Still haven't updated to the new update. You just have to swap an app manifest file, takes 5 seconds.

I'm not sure why people with modded setups updated, I guess they had yet to learn that lesson.

stardust,

So current fallout 4 install is fine and safe?

warm,

The one before the 'next gen' update.

stardust,

Looks like I’ll have to downgrade then.

TheDoctor, do gaming w Fallout 4 Fans Are Begging Bethesda To Stop Updating The Game
@TheDoctor@hexbear.net avatar

The most thriving mod communities are ones for games that have essentially been abandoned by their publisher. Bethesda is infamous for trying to integrate with its modding scene and personally I don’t care for it.

SexMachineStalin, do gaming w Fallout 4 Fans Are Begging Bethesda To Stop Updating The Game
@SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net avatar

I see the FPS still maxed at 80 through DP connection and the Fallout 4 Script Extender no longer works. The XDI and Be Exceptional mods have 9/11’d

ME5SENGER_24, do gaming w Fallout 4 Fans Are Begging Bethesda To Stop Updating The Game

You have one story, thats it. They can update that game til PS7 is a thing and you will have 1 story. I love the game but the replay value is minimal, at best

Pistcow, do gaming w Fallout 4 Fans Are Begging Bethesda To Stop Updating The Game

The updates will continue until morale improves.

Katana314, do gaming w Helldivers 2 Community Manager Seemingly Gone After PlayStation Login Meltdown

Even if I side with the community on the turnout, I feel like a community manager’s job is to represent the company’s interests to some degree. Kind of like a defense lawyer.

They shouldn’t go as far as lying to people or making bad promises, which can make it a tough job, but they definitely shouldn’t be siding with the players against the company, or the internal employees are catching flak from both sides.

helenslunch,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

I feel like a community manager’s job is to represent the company’s interests to some degree.

I mean, I think he was. All he did was show the community how to communicate their feelings to Sony. He tried to save them from themselves.

FiniteBanjo, do gaming w It's Time To Stop Giving Xbox Boss Phil Spencer A Pass (Opinion)

Idk, Kotaku isn’t exactly a good source for ethics in this industry. They list something that every single large game company does: buy studios, move talent around, close the old studios. They also talk about how he claims to champion preservation and emulation, something we all agree with.

I vote he stays.

scrubbles,
!deleted6348 avatar

Yeah their head editors just left saying that they were being forced to write lower quality stories and things with agendas. I wouldn’t trust Kotaku much anymore.

Hdcase,

No one’s asking you to trust them.

scrubbles,
!deleted6348 avatar

Just as a heads up, when you post an article, unless otherwise stated, you are telling people that the source can be trusted. So, yes in a way you are asking us to trust them

regul,

It’s an opinion piece. This isn’t reporting. It says “Commentary” up at the top of the article.

I think you can “trust” when someone tells you that their opinion is actually their opinion. That’s the only question of “trust” here.

There’s an op-ed in the NYT right now titled At the Met Gala, Celebrities Are Nearly Nude. Are We Not Aroused? Do you trust that?

dsemy,

They list something that every single large game company does: buy studios, move talent around, close the old studios.

Not every large game company acts this way. This is also not what he did at all - he didn’t restructure the studios after buying them, he closed them and laid off their employees.

They also talk about how he claims to champion preservation and emulation, something we all agree with.

He’s a known liar (just a year ago he claimed Arkane will continue to polish Redfall, now Arkane Austin has closed before giving people DLC they already paid for)

Phil Spencer has been the head of Xbox for a decade, a decade where Xbox consistently got worse. The only smart decision they made this entire time is Game Pass IMO.

FiniteBanjo,

Not every large game company acts this way.

I’d like you to name a large game company that hasn’t done this, I’m not aware of a single one.

This is also not what he did at all - he didn’t restructure the studios after buying them, he closed them and laid off their employees.

Incorrect, employees are being moved to different studios. I’m unaware how many, if any, are being laid off. For example, Roundhouse is being assigned to Zenimax who run Elder Scrolls Online which is admittedly actually a pretty cool game.

He’s a known liar (just a year ago he claimed Arkane will continue to polish Redfall, now Arkane Austin has closed before giving people DLC they already paid for)

A corporate hack who is in touch with what gamers want is still better than some other out of touch corporate shill, as the state of gaming exemplifies every single day. On the subject of Redfall, it’s no surprise that studio got shut down after the incredible failures at launch, they clearly were never qualified to work on the title anyways, and that’s hardly Phil Spencer’s fault.

Why are we quoting each other? I remember the comment before yours. I made it. Idiot.

dsemy,

Why are we quoting each other? I remember the comment before yours. I made it. Idiot.

Grow up

Here is a response without any quotes, I’m sure their ommision makes this comment much clearer:

Valve hasn’t done this.

At the end of January, Xbox fired 1900 employees:

theverge.com/…/microsoft-activision-blizzard-layo…

It’s Phil Spencer’s fault that they released Redfall at 70$. It is his fault that he promised the game will be polished. It is his fault people who paid for the DLC will never get it.

He also closed Tango, which made a critically acclaimed game.

FiniteBanjo,

Valve has also published 8 games in 10 years. They did acquire Campo Santo studios between 2016 and 2018 which lead to the delayment of Valley of the Gods because Valve put the studio’s members on other projects including Steam, Dota Underlords, and Half Life: Alyx.

dsemy,

They didn’t close Campo Sango though, and haven’t closed other studios they bought historically (like Turtle Rock, which eventually became independent of Valve again and released Back 4 Blood).

ulkesh,
@ulkesh@beehaw.org avatar

You asked for an example, he gave you one. Then you try to discredit it with a red herring illogical argument.

You should take your temporary ban and reflect on what is truly important in your life. Because you clearly need some help.

UngodlyAudrey,
!deleted4132 avatar

Why are we quoting each other? I remember the comment before yours. I made it. Idiot.

This is a beehaw community you’re posting on. We expect you to bee nice here.

FiniteBanjo,

I’m sorry. You’re right. Feel free to eat my ass.

Gaywallet,
@Gaywallet@beehaw.org avatar

I’ve given you a 7 day temporary ban to reflect on how you might better engage with the community in the future. Bee better

Echinoderm,

Why are we quoting each other? I remember the comment before yours. I made it. Idiot.

Because quoting in a response provides structure to the response that improves readability.

Also, you are posting on a publicly accessible forum, not having a one-on-one conversation. In that context, that fact that you may remember what you said doesn’t mean that it’s not beneficial to repeat it for others.

The “idiot” comment was unnecessarily rude where someone was engaging in what appeared to be a good faith response, and only brings down the tone of your entire post.

FiniteBanjo,

It feels like people do it so commonly while making such weak arguments that it might be a bot trying to parse the prior comment. Feels like it doesn’t have use in any other circuimstance.

ulkesh,
@ulkesh@beehaw.org avatar

while making such weak arguments

Perhaps…

Idiot.

Vodulas,

I know you’re banned, but for when you come back, there are several reasons.

  1. It let’s people make a response to specific parts of what you said.
  2. It helps outside folks see the train if thought
  3. For me personally, it helps organize ideas and see the comment response closer together
thesmokingman,

Multiple teams are being cut, at least at Arkane Austin. I don’t know the total heads rolling. Many of my friends are now out of a job. The severance isn’t terrible, at least for some of the engineers. That’s not better than a job, though.

angstylittlecatboy,

Game Pass is a profoundly stupid decision. It doesn’t make it’s money back and now Xbox users are used to not paying for games. And from a consumer perspective, enshittification always eventually happens with subscriptions.

t3rmit3,

I vote he stays.

The article didn’t say he needs to go, they said people need to stop treating him as though he is actually on the side of consumers and employees, rather than investors.

The literal last line of the article is

I hope moving forward Xbox fans and the media hold Spencer more accountable for future mistakes, cuts, and failures.

Nikls94, (edited ) do gaming w What’s Even The Point Of Xbox Game Pass Now?

I’ve always been a fan of used physical copies. Don’t wanna play GameX on day one because the last time CompanyB released a game it was good but only after updating a couple of GB? Wait a year and get that game used for cheaper than a meal.

Unless it’s Nintendo.

vulgarcynic, do gaming w What’s Even The Point Of Xbox Game Pass Now?
@vulgarcynic@sh.itjust.works avatar

I renewed by doing the $1 dollar deal again a year or two ago… racked up another 3 years at the time.

As a Game pass user from Day 1 I evangelized it to everyone I knew. Especially going in to this console generation.

Now though, I see no purpose to it. Microsoft has dropped the bag in a unbelievable way when it comes to dripping6 exclusives / first party games.

It’s not so much the Netflix of games as it is the Tubi…

toxicbubble,

don’t be dissin tubi 😂

vulgarcynic,
@vulgarcynic@sh.itjust.works avatar

You know, that’s fair. They haven’t shit on us… yet. 😁

BowtiesAreCool,

I don’t know, I think there’s still a big collection of games that make it worth it. I don’t think the “core” cheaper option with a set 25 games is really worth it though.

vulgarcynic,
@vulgarcynic@sh.itjust.works avatar

I get that for some users. In my case, 90% of what’s in the catalog that I’d be interested in I already own. I know this isn’t the standards, but it’s what happens when you’re an avid Steam Gamer with a Humble Sub and a collecting problem.

I joined Game pass to have Xbox live to play with my console buddies and for day one exclusive access. At this point, I’ve moved most of them on to PC and Xbox has done nada with my 5 or so years of subscription.

AnUnusualRelic, do gaming w What’s Even The Point Of Xbox Game Pass Now?
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

It’s like a tip to XBox. Yo do tip your console, right?

MeetInPotatoes, do gaming w Helldivers 2 Community Manager Seemingly Gone After PlayStation Login Meltdown

Seems like his job was to “manage” the community in the control sense.

psmgx,

Why else would large companies pay for such positions? It’s a marketing role.

MeetInPotatoes,

Right, but cynics like ourselves need to jump on the proof that we were right to spread our jadedness to the masses.

Umbrias,

Yes that should always be assumed.

rudyharrelson, do games w Multiversus, WB's Smash Clone, Is Coming Back This Spring
@rudyharrelson@kbin.social avatar

I enjoyed playing around with it for a few weeks last year. I liked that they had voice acting and context-sensitive dialogue like Velma saying, "Let's see who's really the world's greatest detective" when Batman was on the enemy team.

It's also just fun to speculate about all the characters that could show up (but probably won't). I'm still rooting for Granddad "Bitches" Freeman to join the roster.

Zahille7,

Holy shit if they added The Boondocks characters, I might actually lay this game and try to look past all the bullshit. And I’d stick with it too, and they’d be my mains. I’d honestly love to play as Huey and fuck some shit up with kung fu and the Black Power Fist. Maybe Riley has like a baseball bat and his giant Timbs or something. Grandad would of course use his belt to fight.

Shit, now I’m getting hyped for something that’ll never happen.

ETA: with the death of John Witherspoon, however, I don’t think they would or could do the character justice.

CluelessDude, do gaming w Helldivers 2 Community Manager Seemingly Gone After PlayStation Login Meltdown

I understand the sentiment that everyone has overall but it seems that most aren’t aware that He was cunt 90% of the time. What he did was commendable but I’m sure it was more of a “leave me alone” sort of situation.

QuadratureSurfer, do gaming w Helldivers 2 Community Manager Seemingly Gone After PlayStation Login Meltdown
@QuadratureSurfer@lemmy.world avatar

Looks like someone setup a petition for Spitz to get rehired. change.org/…/re-hire-the-legendary-community-mana…

thefartographer,

Fuck that, review bomb and refund again!!!

I doubt it would work a second time, but that would be fucking hilarious to watch Sony get slapped twice by their own community.

It would be less funny when the Helldivers II servers suddenly shut down…

mbfalzar,

As funny as that would be I don’t think it would be as funny as when the internet memed Morbius into bombing twice, which was also Sony

thefartographer,

If you haven’t listened the How Did This Get Made episode about Morbius, you owe it to yourself to do that immediately.

They get into some stories about Jared Leto’s antics on set and trying to do improv and it sounds more like an Ambien-induced dialogue than a description of actual human behavior.

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