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skozzii, do games w Sony Reportedly Pauses PlayStation VR2 Production to Clear Backlog of Unsold Units

Sony building walls around its ecosystem is going to be its downfall. If they dropped exclusives and went full on PC it could save them, but anything short of that is going to be bad for them.

Last gen about half of my friends didn’t get the new playstation after owning the PS4.

Typically we have all had consoles and PC’s, but they have finally decided to drop the sony ecosystem. Some of them even bought series-s box with gamepass for their kids… I mean even Microsoft allows crossplay as much as possible, which Sony is reluctant to do.

The other half of my friends with playstation 5’s have said that they are not going forward with the PS6.

Sony is on a death spiral as far as the playstation brand goes. As players switch away, it’s going to speed up the decline as the people left will leave the platform to play with others.

Open up PSVR, make a commitment to crossplay, and stop the exclusives and PlayStation can thrive again and grow, not decline.

Itsamelemmy,

I agree that the headset needs to work on pc. That’s what has kept me from buying one and sticking with the rift s currently. But the ps5 game wise is so much better than the Xbox. There’s no reason to buy an Xbox if you have a pc. Sony has quite a few excellent exclusives. They’re starting to come to pc as well which is nice, but they’re still on console first and not everything makes the jump to pc.

FlavoredButtHair, do games w Sony Reportedly Pauses PlayStation VR2 Production to Clear Backlog of Unsold Units
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Maybe lower the prices, like half off or something.

any1th3r3, do games w Sony Reportedly Pauses PlayStation VR2 Production to Clear Backlog of Unsold Units

NB: Careful, that reporter has apparently been wrong on a number of accounts regarding Sony’s PlayStation business in the past, eg:

I wouldn’t take this article too seriously / as gospel (although PSVR2 has probably not been selling like hot cakes).

Peffse, do games w Sony Reportedly Pauses PlayStation VR2 Production to Clear Backlog of Unsold Units

I’d love to see the process they used when they decided to throw away backward compatibility with PSVR1 software. Surely at least one person on the team said it was a bad idea.

I thought out of all the VR hardware manufactures out there… Sony would be the one who had the best chance to get it right. They’ve got a static SKU of hardware for all software devs to target. They’ve got multiple organizations in every known type of electronic device. Yet here we are on round two of them flubbing the potential.

mrfriki, do games w Sony Reportedly Pauses PlayStation VR2 Production to Clear Backlog of Unsold Units

People play software, not hardware. No enough quality softwares no sales, period. If we are talking about a niche product this is even more relevant.

Davel23,

This has been the case with console addons all the way back to R.O.B. the Robot, if not earlier. People won't buy an addon if there are no games for it. Companies won't make games for an addon if no one buys it. Catch-22.

FryHyde,

But… R.O.B. wasn’t an add-on. It was a way to market the NES as a toy rather than a console, in the wake of the video games crash of 1983-85. Was just a way to sideload NES systems into the houses of wary consumers.

acosmichippo,
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that’s why the manufacturer needs to lead the way with a killer app.

Fubarberry,
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You either need the company to commit to making software for it even when hardware sales are lacking (Wii U is a decent example, had really good Nintendo made games despite bad sales), or be a company with such a dedicated fan base that they’ll buy your product regardless of if the software support is there or not (Apple for example).

Grass, do games w Sony Reportedly Pauses PlayStation VR2 Production to Clear Backlog of Unsold Units

It would sell easy if they didn’t use some weird hardware only on a select few PC graphics cards. Even if PC support was enabled by modders it would still sell but the hardware requirements are simply too much of a hindrance

Eggyhead, do games w Sony Reportedly Pauses PlayStation VR2 Production to Clear Backlog of Unsold Units

I really want a PSVR 2, but I just don’t trust the library will be there to justify it. I might get a quest because I can do more with it than just game.

boredtortoise, do games w Sony Reportedly Pauses PlayStation VR2 Production to Clear Backlog of Unsold Units

The Resident Evils, Pavlov, Gran Turismo are really good. Some more great games and a lower price on the device should increase interest?

maxprime, do games w Sony Reportedly Pauses PlayStation VR2 Production to Clear Backlog of Unsold Units

If they finish working on PC support then they’ll have no problem clearing their stock.

stardust,

Yep, would get this over the meta headsets that I have stayed away from if it got full PC support. Until then just going to wait to see if Valve releases anything new.

Omegamanthethird, do games w Sony Reportedly Pauses PlayStation VR2 Production to Clear Backlog of Unsold Units
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I understand the difficulties, but if they did something to make sure it was backwards compatible, I would consider getting it. If they could get Alyx, I would be buying one now.

No Man’s Sky is pretty much the only reason why I want to try it. I’m pretty happy with my PSVR1 otherwise.

LordTE7R1S, do games w Sony Reportedly Pauses PlayStation VR2 Production to Clear Backlog of Unsold Units

I was very much eager to buy one until I saw its price tag

HerrVorragend, do games w Sony Reportedly Pauses PlayStation VR2 Production to Clear Backlog of Unsold Units
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Well, who could have seen it coming?

Just about anybody, would be my guess.

I bought the PSVR1 at launch back in 2016, excited to finally BE in a virtual world. And for some games, I was absolutely blown away by the immersion. Skyrim, Dirt and RE were awesome in VR. Especially Skyrim was everything I was looking for.

I waited and hoped for more true games but all that kept coming was mostly short ‘experiences’ that felt like early 2000s shovelware, just in VR.

The best VR games were not Sony games but mostly third party games remade for VR.

When the PSVR2 came out, I decided to wait and see if Sony had learned their lessons and had at least many deals with third party studios to remake existing games in VR.

For now, it does not look that way, and a few exclusive tech demo games and some years-old PC ported games just do not justify buying a PSVR2.

avater, do games w Star Citizen 1.0 'Twinkles on the Horizon', Dev Says — 12 Years and $669 Million Later - IGN
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LOL 😂

but to be fair they do not say which year that horizon may twinkle. A horizon in maybe 5 years could be possible at least for a beta release.

Aielman15, do games w Star Citizen 1.0 'Twinkles on the Horizon', Dev Says — 12 Years and $669 Million Later - IGN
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In a blog post, CIG chief Chris Roberts said 2024 will see the launch of Star Citizen Alpha 4.0 (yes, Star Citizen is still in alpha) […] However, there is still no release date or even release window for Star Citizen 1.0. CIG will share the roadmap later this year.

Lol. I wish I, too, was able to convince people to give me 600 million dollars to do fuck all for 12 years.

scrubbles,
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They didn’t do fuck all! They have an extremely unstable alpha of one game mechanic! They just need another few hundred million to get everything else done.

Oh and there’s yet another engine upgrade they’re going to do, and then implement this cool technology over here, and VR, and cryptocurrency, and AI…

Jackthelad, do games w Star Wars: Battlefront Classic Collection Launch Is a Disaster - IGN

I’ve been playing the campaigns and a bit of multiplayer on Battlefront 1 on PS5 and it’s been absolutely fine.

I’m not sure where all these complaints are coming from. Is the PC version a lot worse?

LucasWaffyWaf,

From what I read on Steam: Three servers, 64 players max each. Embarrassingly miniscule for one of the best selling, best received Star Wars games of its time, if not of all time. You’d expect more than 192 people would buy your game on launch, especially something this big.

Jackthelad,

That was as it launched. There are now a whole bunch of dedicated servers.

People have got their knickers in a twist over nothing.

AstralPath,

Dude, imagine you buy a brand new car for a 5 person family and then as you arrive to drive it off the lot you find out its only got the two front seats… Launches like this are completely unacceptable.

Jackthelad,

Yes, because that’s exactly the same thing.

It was literally a few hours later that they added the dedicated servers and people could play online.

Gamoc,

…but not before launch? The game launched and they weren’t there? So they released a game and there were only three servers available? Hours later they added a bunch of servers? AFTER LAUNCH? Is there another way I can phrase this so you realise how stupid it is that you’re defending it?

Jackthelad,

Game has online problems for the first few hours after launch. This has never happened before in the history of video games. 🙄

Wasn’t Helldivers 2 almost impossible to play for the first month? Yet there wasn’t much anger about that. This has a problem for a few hours and it’s the worst thing that has ever happened. 😂

Gamoc,

I recall there being plenty of talk about Helldivers servers. About a month’s worth. Meanwhile I haven’t seen a single person say this is the worst thing that’s ever happened or that it’s never happened before with other games, just that releasing a multiplayer game and only having three servers available is absurd. That and the apparently poor port at least on Switch detailed in another comment.

Believe it or not, shit happening before doesn’t change anything. Shit’s still shit. And we all already know the only actual obstacle to ensuring a smooth multiplayer launch (assuming a competently made game, of course) is paying for enough servers to handle the initial surge. They just prefer not to spend that money and present a poor experience to customers who buy the game at launch instead, because fuck them right.

Jackthelad,

Do you know if you start up the game now, there’s plenty of servers and it, you know, works?

Are you really so impatient that a problem for the first few hours gets you this het up?

Gamoc,

I don’t own the game. It’s not a problem for me at all. It’s a principle, and a reflection of a publisher’s greed and disrespect towards its customers.

Do you know that people bought the game, downloaded it, installed it, sat to play it, and couldn’t because the publisher didn’t want to pay for the required servers for their most loyal customers to do so?

Sure, it’s good that there are servers now, but that’s the minimum I expect and I expect them there at launch. You know, so people who have paid money to play their game actually can. Far be it for me to think an online multiplayer game should have servers to play online multiplayer in when it’s available to buy.

Jackthelad,

Brilliant. Someone who doesn’t even own the game pontificating like an expert on it. 😂

“Couldn’t play the game”. There’s literally a bunch of single player content in the game. It’s not online-only.

Gamoc,

Believe it or not it’s possible to gather information about things without directly experiencing it and I tend to do this with new games. I also already have the originals on steam.

Yes and it’s a multiplayer classic that they couldn’t play multiplayer in. It doesn’t ruin the game, it didn’t destroy the experience permanently, it’s not the end of the world, but it’s shit and only happened because of the publisher’s greed. No clue why you feel the need to defend it really.

[Edit] I also haven’t said a single word that even implies I’m an expert on it. I mentioned bugginess that I said I saw in a comment and talked about servers being unavailable. What level of star wars battlefront expert do you think I need to be to discuss specific star wars battlefront things like…bugs and servers?

Jackthelad,

I wouldn’t be defending the game if it was actually as broken as is being made out.

It’s vastly overblown.

Gamoc,

But all people have said is that it’s buggy on switch (with screenshot proof) and that there weren’t enough servers for hours after launch. Is it you that’s overblowing it?

Jackthelad,

The article linked at the top literally calls it a “disaster”.

Gamoc,

That’s a fair point. Though the actual people I’ve seen talking about it have said it’s buggy as well though, more than a few have refunded.

beebarfbadger,

a multiplayer game

No.

Not *A * multiplayer game. A multiplayer STAR WARS game. And not just any multiplayer Star Wars game - no, the single best received Star Wars game of its kind in the last two decades, coupled with its prequel… And they estimated around 200 people to play it at launch.

Like.

What.

PraiseTheSoup,

Imagine licking boots this hard. Is your tongue raw?

Jackthelad,

Imagine just playing and enjoying a game, rather than forming your opinion based on an IGN article.

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