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But_my_mom_says_im_cool, do games w As The Outer Worlds 2 hits $80, director says "we don't set the prices for our games" and wishes "everybody could play" Obsidian's new RPG

Support your local libraries. My city’s library system is so good that I borrow games on release day all the time. You get them for 1-2 weeks, Most games that are older than a few weeks you can keep for up to 3 weeks, which gives me plenty of time to knock them off my list. Im sure I’ll get this one soon enough, im currently playing AC Shadows which I borrowed

Psythik,

Borrowing games from the library? How does that even work? Do they give you a Steam login and just change the password every 2 weeks or something?

Jankatarch,

Imagine they just crack it.

Bartsbigbugbag,

There’s these things called consoles, that let you put a disk in, they both contains the game and a license to play it. Though these days some games just sell an empty box with a code to download the game.

Psythik,

What a bizarre concept. I doubt they’ll ever catch on. We already have computers, and you don’t need any fancy “discs” or “empty boxes” to play games on them, either. Just download what you want straight from the internet.

Bartsbigbugbag,

It’s great, I can lend my friend the games he doesn’t have, and I can do the same with his games. In this way, we can play many more games than we have the money for. Especially useful since we’re in the US, and internet infrastructure is still poor here, his only option is satellite, which takes far too long to download anything.

Psythik,

Yeah but who needs friends when you have millions of random strangers on the internet to talk to? The infrastructure issue is a problem that I’m too urbanized to understand. My neighborhood alone gives me the choice of cable, DSL, fixed wireless, and fiber. Move to a place like this, and you won’t need friends or these newfangled “con-souls”.

Joeffect,

Unless it’s a switch 2 then all you get is a key on the cartridge… Biggest waste of time on both sides

Bartsbigbugbag,

Some games, some are on cart too. Switch 1 is actually probably the best because just about every game is fully playable unlike ps and Xbox which require patches often to run alright. Switch 2 I hear cyberpunk is fully on the cart, but I doubt many publishers are willing to pay for the bigger carts, so we’ll probably see a lot of third parties be just the key, which is ridiculous.

But_my_mom_says_im_cool,

Ah, you’re one of those who think only pc gaming exists

Panda,

Not sure how it works nowadays, actually! As a child I would borrow PC and PlayStation games from the library. They were physical copies of course. But with Steam keys and all I’m not sure!

mesitoispro,
@mesitoispro@ttrpg.network avatar

I honestly don’t know, but my local library apparently has something similar.

Antaeus, do games w As The Outer Worlds 2 hits $80, director says "we don't set the prices for our games" and wishes "everybody could play" Obsidian's new RPG

80? What the hell?

mesitoispro,
@mesitoispro@ttrpg.network avatar

Some analysts determined people are willing to pay it, so that’s what they’re going to charge.

It has nothing to do with the actual costs of production.

mesitoispro, do games w As The Outer Worlds 2 hits $80, director says "we don't set the prices for our games" and wishes "everybody could play" Obsidian's new RPG
@mesitoispro@ttrpg.network avatar

That’s honestly badass.

I’m glad and surprised they said this. Major props to them.

Plebcouncilman, do games w As The Outer Worlds 2 hits $80, director says "we don't set the prices for our games" and wishes "everybody could play" Obsidian's new RPG

It’s gonna be on gamepass, thats the cheap option.

ms_lane,

FitGirl will be the cheap option.

Plebcouncilman,

You do you, but to me 99% of pirates are just entitled parasites who’ve never created anything in their lives and as such do not understand why content has a price. For me piracy is only justifiable when you have paid for the content but are being barred from accessing it via bullshit like Adobe DRM.

But pirating shit just because you disagree with the pricing is entitled behavior and I cannot condone it, as someone who thinks I have the right to price my property at whatever price I want. It’s not essential to your survival so you can just not consume it and move on.

DrSteveBrule,

There are a lot of other reasons to pirate content besides disagreeing with pricing. I get that the price point of this game is the subject here but I doubt 99% of pirates are at a disagreement over pricing.

Plebcouncilman,

I gave the only instance in which piracy is permissible in the comment you replied to. When there are arbitrary restrictions on how and where you can consume the content that you purchased. But a purchased must have had happened, because that’s what entitles you to access to the content. That’s literally the only instance in which piracy is valid. I’ve seen all the other arguments and they really don’t hold up to any kind of scrutiny because games, movies and books are not necessities and you are not entitled to access to anyone’s work while everyone is entitled to price their work however they like. If you want access to the content you pay what the gatekeeper is asking for, and if the content is not good enough for you to pay for it then surely it isn’t good enough for you to spend the most valuable resource that you have on it which is time.

echodot, do games w As The Outer Worlds 2 hits $80, director says "we don't set the prices for our games" and wishes "everybody could play" Obsidian's new RPG

Wasn’t the first game entirely average? And now he wants $80 for the sequel.

Widdershins,
@Widdershins@lemmy.world avatar

The only thing that stands out thinking about the game is the dialog choices you get when you play through the game with really low intelligence. I think it gets the best ending.

Owlboi, do games w As The Outer Worlds 2 hits $80, director says "we don't set the prices for our games" and wishes "everybody could play" Obsidian's new RPG

i will continue to enjoy my indie games that cost me 5€, thanks.

better yet my free games like warframe that have cost me nothing and given me thousands of hours of enjoyment.

YiddishMcSquidish,

Seriously! I got a $50 steam gift card for Christmas, bought one full price dlc (Shadow of the Erdtree) and like five or so indie games that I’ve put way more time in!

normalexit, do games w As The Outer Worlds 2 hits $80, director says "we don't set the prices for our games" and wishes "everybody could play" Obsidian's new RPG

It’ll go on sale for $15 eventually. I can wait.

zecg, do games w As The Outer Worlds 2 hits $80, director says "we don't set the prices for our games" and wishes "everybody could play" Obsidian's new RPG
@zecg@lemmy.world avatar

Just as heads up, Obsidian, I’ll require this to be at least 75% off if it’s good and over 20 hours of single-player campaign. If it’s shorter, I can be enticed at 90% off. I’ll wait for a few years, no problem, my family group backlog is in the thousands.

Goodeye8,

Them: "we don't set the price".

You: "I'll buy it if you set a lower price".

So people don't even read the headlines anymore?

zecg,
@zecg@lemmy.world avatar

No, I’ve seen it, that is feedback and it should be invaluable to all interested parties, not only those who set the price.

valkyrieangela, do games w As The Outer Worlds 2 hits $80, director says "we don't set the prices for our games" and wishes "everybody could play" Obsidian's new RPG

GabeN save us

GeneralEmergency,

Yes. The libertarian monopolist will save gaming.

Rai,

Ah yes, classic Steam, paying devs big money to make their new release exclusive to Steam and unable to be purchased on any other lau—oh wait, that was another company?!

Well, at least now you have the capitalist monopoly here to save you! All hail!

GeneralEmergency,

You are aware there were other digital distribution platforms that Steam put out of business, by those practices.

Hell. They made publishers release physical disc copies of PC games, only for forced Steam integration, locking the on disc content behind a wall.

falynns, do games w As The Outer Worlds 2 hits $80, director says "we don't set the prices for our games" and wishes "everybody could play" Obsidian's new RPG

Games were $60 three decades ago, inflation hits us all.

Gwingollor, do games w As The Outer Worlds 2 hits $80, director says "we don't set the prices for our games" and wishes "everybody could play" Obsidian's new RPG

Doesn’t matters the masses will complain online, bit still pay it.

als, do games w As The Outer Worlds 2 hits $80, director says "we don't set the prices for our games" and wishes "everybody could play" Obsidian's new RPG

Everyone can play your game 🏴‍☠️

DoucheBagMcSwag, do games w As The Outer Worlds 2 hits $80, director says "we don't set the prices for our games" and wishes "everybody could play" Obsidian's new RPG

“this is Microsoft fault. Please don’t blame us.”

Gotta say props for having the balls to say that

BarbecueCowboy,

It sounds nice, and yeah, that’s primarily publisher responsibility, but developers are allowed to talk to their publishers about pricing strategy. Framing it as if they have zero responsibility is a bit of a cop out. Limited comments and we don’t have the full story, but it makes it kind of sound like they didn’t even bring it up.

DoucheBagMcSwag,

We don’t know if they tried to “talk” to Microsoft and they said “do as your fucking told.”

MyDarkestTimeline01,

Absolutely. Sure Publishers want their cut, but it’s an agreement between Dev and pub. This just feels like Bungie blaming Acti-Blizz for all the things people didn’t like about Destiny.

katze,

You’re trying too hard to put the blame on the wrong party.

BarbecueCowboy,

I already addressed that, but more than one party can shoulder blame at the same time, not everything is black and white.

kortex64,

Microsoft isn’t their publisher, they’re their owner. You’re utterly deluded if you think Obsidian is in any capacity to talk the price down with Microsoft, especially after Avowed failed.

MITM0, do games w As The Outer Worlds 2 hits $80, director says "we don't set the prices for our games" and wishes "everybody could play" Obsidian's new RPG
@MITM0@lemmy.world avatar

But can we focus on optimizing games so thst it runs on the most potato of potato PCs ??

I think that’ll work wonders along with the pricing

NigelFrobisher, do games w As The Outer Worlds 2 hits $80, director says "we don't set the prices for our games" and wishes "everybody could play" Obsidian's new RPG

The evolution of game design has basically been dead for a few years now, so shouldn’t the process just get cheaper?

Lemminary,

For AAA games, maybe, but not for indie. The best and most innovative games out there are not made by major studios.

mostlikelyaperson,

Obsidian hasn’t been an indie for at least 7 years now.

ms_lane,

This is a ‘AAA’ game.

Lemminary,

I meant generally about game design. I’m not talking about this game, although it looks interesting.

abbotsbury,
@abbotsbury@lemmy.world avatar

Fidelity and it’s consequences have been a disaster for the budget size

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