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Sunny, do games w Helldivers 2 Players Express Frustration On Steam As It Will Soon Require A PSN Account

The current top Steam Review;

Yeah i’m not linking my account to PSN.

  • April 2011: Hackers Access Personal Data of 77 Million Sony PlayStation Network Users
  • May 2011: Personal Details on 25 Million Sony Online Entertainment Customers Stolen
  • June 2011: Sony Pictures Website Hacked, Exposing One Million Accounts
  • November 2014: Hackers Steal 100 Terabytes of Data from Sony Pictures
  • August 2017: Hacker Group Accesses Sony Social Media Accounts
  • September 2023: Sony Investigates Alleged Hack
  • October 2023: Sony Notifies Employees of Data Breach
aciDC14,

Ah, that explains why all of my accounts disappeared…

FinishingDutch, do games w Helldivers 2 Players Express Frustration On Steam As It Will Soon Require A PSN Account
@FinishingDutch@lemmy.world avatar

Well that’s certainly one way to kill a game. Heck, I HAVE a PS5, and I still would be annoyed as fuck by that.

Sure, you can offer to link an account for things like progress tracking. But it certainly shouldn’t be forced on anyone.

iamjackflack, do games w Helldivers 2 Players Express Frustration On Steam As It Will Soon Require A PSN Account

Welp it was fun playing while it lasted. Sorry arrowhead but fuck that not happening. Time to move on to another game

xkforce, do games w Helldivers 2 Players Express Frustration On Steam As It Will Soon Require A PSN Account

Looks like Nintendo and Sony are competing who can get away with being a bigger asshole. Boundary testing sociopaths. Game becomes popular, dev and publisher foist unpopular requirement to continue playing in order to see what the response is and if it doesnt tank numbers too much, they now have a green light to weasel this into other games. Hell even if it does tank numbers, they already have their money and you probably wont be able to get a refund at this point.

zecg,
@zecg@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, but I can get a refund for Days Gone which I haven’t played yet AND I can not buy as many of snoy games as they can publish from now on.

GrundlButter, do games w Helldivers 2 Players Express Frustration On Steam As It Will Soon Require A PSN Account

I would love to see Valve allow refunds. This was not an agreed upon stipulation at the time of purchase. If they pull the game from you now so soon after purchase, is it not grounds for a refund? Give Sony the choice to backtrack or lose money.

gears,

It’s been on the steam page since day one, so I doubt they’d refund. It was agreed upon but not enforced until now.

ArmokGoB,

By reading this comment you agree to pay me $1,000.

FluorideMind,

Uhh have an upvote instead.

Tja,

No problem, I have too many shrute bucks anyway. It will arrive in a fortnight.

lepinkainen,

It also prompted for a login at the start

perdvert, do games w Helldivers 2 Players Express Frustration On Steam As It Will Soon Require A PSN Account

They sold this game in dozens of countries where you can’t make a PSN account. That right there is what pisses me the fuck off. Complete horseshit to do that to people.

gears,

PSN doesn’t care if you lie and just choose your nearest supported country.

FluffyPotato,

It actually does, it’s something people get their accounts banned over.

Rakonat,

Their terms of service specifically say if you spoof your location or do not sign up in your country you will subject to review and punishment. Aka permabanned

GoodEye8,

They literally do care: ungeek.ph/…/pinoy-gt-sport-player-disqualified-fr…

It might not affect most people as they won’t get caught, but Sony absolutely cares when you’ve given them false information. I’d much rather get my refund than be at the mercy of Sony who can be pretty liberal with the suspensions.

MufinMcFlufin,

One of my friends made the mistake of linking his PSN account right when he started playing Helldivers 2 then shortly found he was banned from the game. After he did some digging, he found his PSN account was banned for “suspicious activities” despite having not used it in over a year. After even more digging he eventually finds out it was because when they kept charging him for their premium service and he was trying to cancel it, they wouldn’t remove his payment information. He checked multiple times with them and they said they did.

Next payment period rolls around and they charge him for another year of service all the same. He tries to get it refunded, he talks to them about how they said they removed the payment info and it’s nothing but “well there’s nothing we can do about it now” type bullshit. So he goes to his bank and did a charge back on the annual fee, since they keep insisting it’s impossible. Wouldn’t ya know it suddenly it’s very easy to remove his payment info, cancel that premium service, and take care of everything.

All of this was done about a year prior, and he left his account untouched since fuck Sony and PlayStation at that point. I guess they waited until his account was active again being used for a game for them to suddenly realize they really don’t like his charge back and deactivate his account entirely, blocking access to everything linked to it, including Helldivers 2.

avater, (edited ) do games w Helldivers 2 Players Express Frustration On Steam As It Will Soon Require A PSN Account
@avater@lemmy.world avatar

Just curious, did anybody with over two hours got a refund?

lepinkainen,

It’s been like 24 hours. Everyone at Sony is asleep while Arrowhead is being 💩 on for Sonys decision

ichbinjasokreativ, do games w Helldivers 2 Players Express Frustration On Steam As It Will Soon Require A PSN Account

Man it’s such a shame. I was looking forward to trying it, but I’m not going to create a psn acc for it

lepinkainen, (edited )

I’m guessing you have an Origin, EA and Microsoft account though? Along with Steam, Epic, Gog and what else?

EDIT: lol at all the downvotes with zero explanations 🤣

CluelessDude,

At least you use those for other games, what are you using your PSN acc with no PlayStation for?

ichbinjasokreativ,

I don’t have any of those, except steam

Damage,

So what?

Psythik,

The game is very repetitive, anyway. I was bored after about 20 hours. By then you’ve already seen everything there is to see.

skulblaka,
@skulblaka@startrek.website avatar

More stuff is coming / is already out. It’s actually a really well done implementation of a live service game which I never thought I’d say about anything. That does mean it has a shelf life though and the live service won’t last forever, which is a bummer. I’m curious what they’ll do with it once they’re finished actively managing the war story. Maybe hand it over to an AI in 2-3 years.

Psythik,

Hmm well I played on and off for about a month and didn’t notice anything new.

Do you know if they plan on adding some new game modes? I’m already sick and tired of the whole “shoot bugs, rescue hostages/blow up objective, shoot more bugs then extract” thing. I get that a lot of shooters have a tendency to only have 2-3 game modes max, but those games at least have PvP to keep things interesting.

skulblaka,
@skulblaka@startrek.website avatar

Not sure. I do know new creatures are planned and coming, and player vehicles are planned. I haven’t played in a couple weeks though so I’m not sure what all is out and what’s still cooking.

GladiusB,
@GladiusB@lemmy.world avatar

Agreed. Fun with other people. Boring as fuck solo.

GoodEye8,

Every game is repetitive, it comes down to whether the repetition is entertaining. It wasn’t for you but for a lot of people it is. It is trending downward according to Steam stats but it still has around 60-70k concurrent players during the low points and in terms of hours played it’s be in the top 10 games.

Personally while the overall mission structure is “repetitive” I think the randomization of mission parameters, how the mission play out and the spectacle make it very fun. I would still be playing if not for the Sony shit. It’s a great game to peace out with friends.

NodWod, do games w Helldivers 2 Players Express Frustration On Steam As It Will Soon Require A PSN Account

As always, people completely overreacting to the minor inconvenience of creating an account. Crazy

Sunny,

You’re completely missing the point.

NodWod,

What am I missing?

I have just seen that certain countries can’t make an account which is extremely scummy. But most people are just whining about having to make one

Sunny, (edited )

Read the comments here and you’ll quickly see why it’s a problem. There are multiple reasons.

  1. Sony will use this for tracking and advertising.
  2. Having a Sony account has proven to be not safe, many times…
  • April 2011: Hackers Access Personal Data of 77 Million Sony PlayStation Network Users
  • May 2011: Personal Details on 25 Million Sony Online Entertainment Customers Stolen
  • June 2011: Sony Pictures Website Hacked, Exposing One Million Accounts
  • November 2014: Hackers Steal 100 Terabytes of Data from Sony Pictures
  • August 2017: Hacker Group Accesses Sony Social Media Accounts
  • September 2023: Sony Investigates Alleged Hack
  • October 2023: Sony Notifies Employees of Data Breach 3. They only included that this was needed in some places, and even there in small print. Which we all now is on purpose and is disgusting corporate behaviour. 4. People who have bought the game and can’t make a PSN account have now lost access to the game they probably paid full price for. 5. I addition to those, imagine this new trend where each publisher is requires you to make an account withim their systems and having to link them whenever you want to play their game… That could mean you would now need an account for:

EA, Activision Blizzard, Ubisoft, Take-Two Interactive, Square Enix, Capcom, Bandai Namco, Bethesda, Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft Studios, Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment, Sega, Konami, THQ Nordic, 2K Games, Paradox Interactive, Focus Home Interactive, Devolver Digital… Etc…

And that’s only a small portion of the number of publishers… It’s a trend that benefits the publishers only as they get to track users on a new level. Honestly boils my blood the amount of corporate greed were seeing in the gaming industry.

TexMexBazooka,

Less than 1 day old account. Don’t feed the trolls

Sunny,

While true, I’m always afraid of it not being a troll and a genuine new user… would be a pretty bad experience for a new person to be called a troll, even though them having a controversial opinion.

CluelessDude,

It’s really not whining tho? You’ve been able to play without one since the beginning even having an option to skip such a step, I don’t own a PlayStation and don’t intend to I shouldn’t have to make an account for it, it’s that simple, a game shouldn’t be able to lock you out of something you paid for just because they now want to force you to make an account, even more stupid is allowing the game to be sold on countries where you can’t make an PSN account knowing it would be mandatory in the future.

zecg,
@zecg@lemmy.world avatar

I wouldn’t let them fondle my testicles.

As always, people completely overreacting to the minor inconvenience of having testicles fondled. Crazy

NodWod,

Why? A good fondling is nice

HawlSera, do games w Helldivers 2 Players Express Frustration On Steam As It Will Soon Require A PSN Account

I feel weird using my PSN account because the birth date on it is wrong… I tried to tell Sony this, but they said they couldn’t change it

SomethingBurger,

If you’re in the EU, they have to correct your personal information. Threaten to report them to your local privacy authority if they don’t.

lemmyvore,

If they’re as incompetent as they sound they’d have to change it manually and assuming you could make them do that it would probably break something in the account. 😄 There’s no good way to do this if it was badly put together.

Cocodapuf,

So every company you give info to is responsible to catch every one of your lies? That sounds hard.

SomethingBurger,

No, but they have to update your info if you want to change it.

HawlSera,

I’m in the Land of Eagles and Hamburgers I’m afraid

Cocodapuf,

That’s probably a good thing. I generally put different information into every service. If you keep track of who you told what, you can use that information later. If you receive spam from somewhere random, but they use the name you gave Sony, you can say “oh so Sony sold my data to you…”

Dragster39,

Sony has been part of at least one major data leak. They don’t have to tell anyone since all of their data already is on the internet.

hal_5700X, do games w Helldivers 2 Players Express Frustration On Steam As It Will Soon Require A PSN Account

Why would people not trust putting any info and linking their Steam account to a company with a history of at least 8 hacks + 5 massive data breaches? I wonder. 🤔

nocteb,
Armok_the_bunny,

Please, anyone who reads this, stop posting links to the mobile version of Wikipedia. It doesn’t switch automatically on PC, and I see it happen all the time. Just take the half a second to remove the “.m” from the beginning of the link, save everyone else from the pain of having to be surprised by it and taking the time to do it themselves.

Chickenstalker,

> pain

Kys

Weslee,

Is deleting 2 characters from the URL really causing you pain?

You even have a keyboard and mouse! It’s like less than 2 seconds to correct

FeralTofu, do games w Helldivers 2 Players Express Frustration On Steam As It Will Soon Require A PSN Account

Does anyone know what type of information is shared by linking accounts

Sunny,

Afraid you’re gonna have to dig deep into their privacy policies for that, including all third party vendors they partner with, which I’m assuming is more than just a few. The world of policies is intricate by design…

NutWrench,
@NutWrench@lemmy.world avatar

If it links to your Steam account, I assume it’s going to get all the info in your Steam account.

chilicheeselies, do games w Helldivers 2 Players Express Frustration On Steam As It Will Soon Require A PSN Account

I was gonna finally get around to buying this last night, and this stopped me.

ClaireDeLuna,

Patient gaming wins again

Eyck_of_denesle,

Back to Earth defence force ig

SlothMama, do games w Helldivers 2 Players Express Frustration On Steam As It Will Soon Require A PSN Account

Even worse! You can’t even have a PSN account everywhere you can have a Steam account with this game https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/99b5e65b-2a86-4e65-9296-c58786a9b862.jpeghttps://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/f4874de2-baff-48b8-a867-50ddb88dee81.jpeg

summerof69,

I live in one of the grey countries. You can create an account, but Sony offers different stores in different countries, so you have to pick another country. They even sells consoles in many of the grey countries. The biggest issue is that you probably won’t be able to buy anything without extra hustle because your card is not issued in the country of your PSN account. Also, this is technically against their ToS. But you can create an account to play Helldivers 2.

With that said, I can’t speak for all countries. Maybe somewhere it’s really impossible to create an account without VPN.

nutsack,

I live in a gray country as well. It’s like this for a lot of products. And a lot of websites block you too. Everything here is more complicated

Sunny,

thanks for sharing!

roguetrick,

The baltics and the balkans never get a break.

debil,

As if having been oppressed by orcs is not enough.

roguetrick, (edited )

Shit, they were both oppressed forever. The byzantines for the Balkans and the northern crusade and the teutonic order against the Balts come to mind.

Now the Japanese want to being their reign of terror with restrictive game accounts!

yamanii, do games w Helldivers 2 Players Express Frustration On Steam As It Will Soon Require A PSN Account
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

I already made an uplay account, a social club account, an origin account, an epic account, I’m tired, I’m not making a CONSOLE account, I don’t have a playstation and I won’t have one since I’m against everything sony is doing to asian games.

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