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Ashtear, do gaming w Here Are The Nominees For The Game Awards 2023 - Game Informer

Starfield only getting one nomination–and in a category it has no chance of winning–is not at all what I would have expected going into this year.

I don’t know if that speaks to how nuts this year has been for new releases or to how much Starfield fell short, in light of the fact that its player counts on Steam are starting to fall below Skyrim.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

To be perfectly fair, Skyrim has a decade of sales and mods in its favor when it comes to Steam numbers, and whether or not Starfield has fallen short by any metric, the things that it does were more novel when Skyrim did a lot of the same stuff 12 years ago.

t3rmit3,

Starfield player counts will go way up once the modkit is released. Every single one of those people playing Skyrim on Steam have modded it out the wazoo.

Mothra,
@Mothra@mander.xyz avatar

They might go up but I’d be surprised it will rival Skyrim. I’m a Skyrim fan, yet I’m not enticed to play Starfield for reasons beyond me. It feels like it’s lacking something and I can’t put my finger on it. I don’t believe mods would make much of a difference, but who knows, maybe I’m wrong.

I modded Skyrim (and Oblivion) because the vanilla game was exciting already, in spite of its flaws. I couldn’t be bothered otherwise.

Moonguide,

Depth is what Starfield is lacking, imo. It fixes a lot of what both skyrim and f4 did wrong (there’re backgrounds, they affect your skills, and they come up from time to time, to mention one), but they regressed so hard on other things. They tried new stuff but the delivery was so limp dicked that everything landed awkwardly, or not at all. Think the game suffered because of scope creep, honestly, if they had limited the game to just a handful of planets, they could’ve tailored the experience and they wouldn’t feel so empty.

And as always, their obsession to let you do everything in one playthrough hurt the game hard. There’s very little reason to go for a second playthrough.

Like, they did a good job with most of the game’s mechanics, but everything else is mid as hell. Very forgettable.

Coelacanth,
@Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

For me, it’s the vast expanses of procedurally generated nothingness in Starfield that turns me off the most, especially combined with the menu-based fast travel heavy way you get around.

The magic of Bethesda games comes from their handcrafted open worlds, always full of things to see and explore and get sidetracked by. Its the feeling that kicks in when the horizon first opens up after you exit the sewer/vault/customs office and you realize that you can just pick a direction and start walking and you’ll come across something interesting.

Starfield doesn’t do that. You can’t just pick a direction and go, it’s all fast travel. And if you’re down on a planet you can, but there is no magic to be found because it’s all procedurally generated emptiness between copy-pasted points of interest.

In their ambitions to have a bigger scope than ever they sacrificed the very thing that made their games so compelling to begin with.

rgb3x3,

And if you’re down on a planet you can, but there is no magic to be found because it’s all procedurally generated emptiness between copy-pasted points of interest.

I think the perfect example of this are the caves that show up sometimes.

First time I found one, I thought “neat, I wonder what’s in there.” So I go exploring and find out that… nothing. Nothing is in there. It’s just an empty cave. So I find a second one, hoping that was a fluke and again… nothing.

The procedurally generated content is severely lacking in a reason for even existing.Nothing is worth exploring in Starfield because there’s just nothing there.

fuzzywolf23,

This is exactly my thought. In Skyrim, every tree stump looked like it had the benefit of a beauty pass by an artist. In Starfield, it’s very clear that most of the ground was never looked at before I got there, and there’s no reason for me to look at it now

MJBrune,

I don’t think starfield does anything worth giving it an award for. You should give awards to things that do something unique or took a risk. Starfield is a very safe game that didn’t really do anything unique or risky. They just made Skyrim in space.

Ashtear,

Us space sim types would tell you it took a few steps back as far as genre standards go. And I wasn’t even expecting much on that side of it.

volkrom,

@Ashtear @MJBrune
Was it supposed to be a space sim, though?
My impression was that it was always going to be a skyrim/fallout in space

MJBrune,

I agree, I don’t think it’s a space sim and I don’t think fallout or Skyrim in space is unique.

Ashtear,

The space elements were a big part of the marketing. I knew better than to expect atmospheric flight or anything but simple space combat, but intra-system travel being only done in menus and the space sections being put in small lightboxes with planet renderings was rather shocking. That’s 20th-century stuff. It’s especially bizarre given how much of the Bethesda magic has leaned on roads in the past, and there aren’t any roads outside of cities. Even the cargo runs are 100% in menus, without talking to a single person.

fuzzywolf23,

Skyrim isn’t full of unskippable cut scenes.

vanderbilt,
@vanderbilt@beehaw.org avatar

Frankly Starfield didn’t even deserve the nomination. It didn’t do anything unique or deserving of merit beyond just existing. I tried it, and while it has some interesting parts it’s just shallow and bland. The lore had huge potential but got Swiss-cheesed by the game mechanics and wasn’t developed at all - in what was supposed to be a Bethesda RPG. They need to yeet Todd and bring back the Obsidian folks.

Eeyore_Syndrome, do games w Diablo IV Leads Talk Development Process, Post-Launch Priorities - GameInformer
@Eeyore_Syndrome@sh.itjust.works avatar

Can I purchase the next season pass with DC currency earned from the prior one yet?

Zenabiz,

Nope. You get 700 platinum from the pass. The next one costs 1000.

SnotFlickerman, do games w Diablo IV Leads Talk Development Process, Post-Launch Priorities - GameInformer
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Development Process: “How do we make the most money?”

Post-Launch Priorities: “Surprisingly, more money.”

Bonesince1997, do games w Pikmin 4's Creators On Why Development Isn't Only About Making Miyamoto Happy

This was a super weak article. Examples of direction from Miyamoto came in the form of two dialogue lines in the beginning of the game. I don’t even remember them.

I’m not surprised. The beginning of the interview started with a question about a statement made in 2015 that P4 was almost complete. The answer to why that was said at the time was completely lacking. A boring article for sure.

PP_BOY_, do games w Naughty Dog Reportedly Lays Off At Least 25 With Last Of Us Multiplayer Game 'On Ice'
@PP_BOY_@lemmy.world avatar

Never played TLOU2 but the original TLOU multi-player was actually really fun back in 2013. Shame to see

switches, do gaming w Vampire Survivors Free Whiteout Update Brings New Stage, Character, Weapon, And More
@switches@kbin.social avatar

vampire survivors is truly the game that keeps on giving

Nommer, do games w Unravel The Talos Principle 2's Mysteries In November (2nd)

Excited to play “multiplayer” again with my friend. Discord and streaming wasn’t possible for me back then so we just used Skype voice to describe what we found in each puzzle. Of course we’d give each other a chance to figure it out ourselves first, but we had so much fun for a couple weeks.

SHOW_ME_YOUR_ASSHOLE, do games w Unravel The Talos Principle 2's Mysteries In November (2nd)

This is exciting news. Talos Principle really filled that void left by Portal for me.

Risk, do games w UK Regulator Grants Preliminary Approval To Microsoft’s Activision Blizzard Acquisition

Could someone please explain to me how this is an improvement?

geosoco,

I don't think this benefits anyone but Ubisoft.

I think the CMA was concerned about microsoft cornering the cloud gaming market with the acquisition, so granting Ubisoft rights to stream these games alleviated their concerns.

I'm not sure why this was their concern though

NuPNuA, do games w Like A Dragon Gaiden: The Man Who Erased His Name Hits Xbox Game Pass Day One

This is one of the few games I was planning to get at launch this year, so this is welcome news.

ParkedInReverse, do games w Ubisoft Announces Tom Clancy's The Division 3, Appoints New Series Producer

Please be as good as 1, not as boring as 2, and bring back the survival mode.

Redshlrt,

I actually liked 2 more than one for the gameplay, but I thought 1 had the by far better atmosphere.

I do hope however, 3 comes out of the gate with more content for end game. I think both struggled a bit at launch and took a while for more content to show up and lost a lot of players because of it.

dlpkl, do games w Like A Dragon Gaiden: The Man Who Erased His Name Hits Xbox Game Pass Day One

I can’t keep up with Yakuza game titles anymore

NuPNuA,

It’s simple, this is the one set between Yakuza 6 and 7 but also during 7 and then between 7 and 8, where you play as Kiryu from the first 7 games but not going under the name of Kiryu as he went into hiding after 6. Oh and this game is an action game, but the next game in 2024 also starring undercover Kiryu and also the protagonist of 7, Ichiban is a turn based RPG. See simple, lol.

paultimate14, do games w Marvel's Spider-Man 2 Has Gone Gold

If you’re not familiar with the “gold” term, it means the game is complete and ready to be submitted to Sony’s online services and be printed to discs

Am I the only one who has never heard this term before? I always thought going Gold referenced a sales threshold, similar to the music industry. The term as the article defines it is pretty dumb and useless.

PM_ME_FEET_PICS,

Going gold for a video game means the game is finished and ready and can be printed into its Gold Master Copy.

The games industry, while note sales thresholds, do not reward sales thresholds.

Xbox at a time would re-release titles that were large sellers on the original Xbox and Xbox 360 as “Platinum Hits.” Which may have helped your confusion on the topic.

https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/67b3b522-f0b3-4422-b37a-6ae473c77f60.webp

Toribor,
@Toribor@corndog.social avatar

This term has been used for a long time but it’s largely irrelevant these days since games are patched continuously, sometimes with extremely large day one patches. It used to make more sense in the old days because it meant the game was complete and ready to ship.

Oneeightnine, do games w Payday 3, Gotham Knights, And More Hit Xbox Game Pass This Month
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Really excited for Cocoon. It’s from one of the people that made Inside and Limbo. And I guess this will give me a chance to test Gotham Knights.

Whirlybird, (edited ) do games w Immortals Of Aveum Dev Ascendant Studios Lays Off 45% Of Staff

Unfortunately with the length and cost of dev time these days, basically every studio is only one less than massively successful game away from mass layoffs and/or bankruptcy.

Not good for this studio, but the game was a mess from everything I saw.

sugar_in_your_tea,

It doesn’t need to be that way though. In this case, it looks like they shot for the moon and missed, when they probably should’ve started with a less aggressive title. Not every game has to be AAA, making a solid AA or indie game is totally fine too. If they did that, they could’ve released multiple games in that same time and budget and spread out the risk.

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