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quams69, do games w Report: Embracer cancels Eidos' unannounced Deus Ex project, lays off staff

We always hear about shit companies like embracer, but who are the actual people in charge? Who are the people who are very bad at their jobs and should be publically ostracized for damaging not only their ips but the lives of hundreds to thousands of working developers? Like what are their names? Who are these faceless scumbags?

Embracer is just a name to hide behind, the people involved in the decisionmaking here should be known by name, like Bobby “incredible piece of human filth” Kotick

Lanusensei87,
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MeekerThanBeaker,

You can tell from the pictures that they all play video games. /s

I really hate how people in charge of companies usually don’t give a crap about the product, just how to exploit it.

CaptDust,

I honestly do believe Lars Wingefors is passionate about games and the industry, he’s been trying to find a place in it his whole career, but I do not think he’s a good business man nor worthy of stewardship for these IPs.

MeekerThanBeaker,

Very well could be. I didn’t research their backgrounds. I just know from first hand experience of people who get jobs who graduated with business degrees who don’t care about the stuff they sell.

marlowe221, do games w Report: Embracer cancels Eidos' unannounced Deus Ex project, lays off staff

I love Deus Ex. This is extremely disappointing news.

JustUseMint, do games w Report: Embracer cancels Eidos' unannounced Deus Ex project, lays off staff

Breaks my heart. One of the best franchises/IPs

Phegan, do games w Report: Embracer cancels Eidos' unannounced Deus Ex project, lays off staff

Common embracer L

Aremel, do games w Embracer says it's looking out for shareholders after cutting almost 1,400 jobs

It’s refreshing to see evil motherfuckers being evil openly instead of trying to hide it with doublespeak or outright denying it. I love Coffee Stain Studio’s games and how they handle monetization, and this announcement makes me worried for both the studio and their projects.

Gork,

Damn I didn’t know that Coffee Stain was owned by Embracer.

If Embracer forces them to stop working on Valheim or Satisfactory imma shit some bricks.

cows_are_underrated,

Then let’s hope this doesn’t happen

-Your Intestines

SkyezOpen,

If they somehow shove mtx into valheim I’m gonna riot.

dumpsterlid, (edited )

Don’t worry, the business model of companies like Embracer is literally to strip mine “inefficient” businesses run by artists through short circuiting the positive feedback loop between game developers passionate about what they do and loyal fans, trashing the work environment for the employees by cutting everything, and ripping off fans until they realize the place that made the art they love is alive only in name.

Valheim will be fine! https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/16b6a6f1-21fe-41e6-9f9d-b0f7e979c432.jpeg

ech,

Ah damn, really? CS publishes/develops some great games.

Carighan, do games w Embracer says it's looking out for shareholders after cutting almost 1,400 jobs
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Ah, it’s good someone is looking out for the poor poor shareholders. Just earlier I saw a long line of them at the unemployment office, begging for food from passerbyes, destitute in their poverty. /s

Potatos_are_not_friends,

The shareholders at the local yacht club were really bummed out because many of them were saving really hard to add another ship to their collection, and some might even have to cancel a 2 week international vacation. Ive started a GoFundMe because no shareholder should feel so deprived of those basic needs.

partial_accumen,

It really is sad these days. You can see them holding signs written on the back of Form 10-K documents at road intersections say things like:

“Need dividends. Any amount helps. God Bless.”

But really, you have to just ignore them. You know anything you give them they’re just going to blow on equities in unproven klepto-corporate business models with over aggressive spending attempting to capture market share in industries paying abusively small wages to their destitute workers. You can try to help them like I did one time:

  • Me: "Hey, here’s a couple of shares in a company that hires those recently released from prison for light industrial assembly work giving them a good reference for future employment. Its not worth much, but they do some good for the community."
  • Them: "Can I as a shareholder petition the board to fire the ex-cons, ship the assembly work offshore, and perform a stock buyback increasing the value of the shares?"
  • Me: "I don’t think the board is interested in that as it violates the company mission"
  • Them: “Then I don’t want those shares”
Hubi, do games w Starbreeze admits Payday 3 is massively underperforming

Damn. I knew it was bad but seeing this it’s more like “catastrophic”:

steamcharts.com/cmp/218620,1272080#6m

Paradoxvoid,
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Holy shit, it’s actually impressive to tank that hard - not cresting more than 1000 concurrent players in over a month, and hasn’t been able to beat 5000 since November… I know people love throwing the ‘dead game’ meme around prematurely, but if this isn’t dead yet, it’s definitely got one foot in the grave.

Rentlar, do games w Starbreeze admits Payday 3 is massively underperforming
  1. Make your game require always online connectivity
  2. Rush your development, causing network issues, bugs, missing QoL features
  3. Push ahead with monetization schemes despite problems
  4. Players vanish
  5. Surprised Pikachu face

Congratulations Starbreeze, you made a game so shitty that it’s not even worth pirating. They will practically have to relaunch the game to reclaim the playerbase at this point.

tux,

Don’t forget taking forever for an initial patch release, despite there being multiple game breaking bugs.

The state the game was at release was absolutely awful.

The only folks who kept playing that I know were folks grinding for the final levels/achievements/weapons. Which consisted of playing in unenjoyable ways like using bad load outs, doing stupid crap like tagging a billion guards, etc. Who wants to pay money for an unenjoyable grind?

They released a decent patch, some new content and DLC but everyone has already moved on. They totally screwed themselves, sucks it’s an IP that I like, but more games need to fail like this so publishers stop doing the same bullshit

Rentlar,

Yeah, I’ve played Payday 2 but I wasn’t going to pick this up for any more than $10US.

This review from a Japanese player with 426hours playtime was really telling…, to summarize:

  • Way too late to form a strike team, are they even working to fix it?
  • Years ago the CEO put comments to the media about wanting to make a game to run over the long term. If you want that then don’t put out a game that flops at the start.
  • The developers have full on ignored player feedback, and just putting in what they feel like and maybe a handful of Payday 2 brought in as a bonus. Infrequent updates on the Steam Community, never responding to users, releasing a DLC people couldn’t play and saying “have a nice weekend” on X.
  • A patch finally comes but it introduces new bugs, many big issues still unaddressed, game still dropping frames and unoptimized.
  • Are the devs shitfaced drunk while making this game? If they can get money while hardly doing work I’d want to work there.
  • I uninstalled the game, and even if the game were to massively improve, I wouldn’t return as the studio treats players like nothing but money generators.
NOSin,

Stop blaming Devs and blame corpo above them. Can’t guarantee that’s the case here but it’s almost always their fault rather than the Devs when things go wrong on a launch like this.

yamanii,
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Maybe they should unionize or walkout or something, costumers can’t fight their fight.

As proven with Volition, if we don’t buy their game in protest they are closed down anyway instead of getting another shot at something we actually want, nothing can change from this side.

Glamborghini,

Man, was this game a disappointment. So many privacy agreements just to install the bloody thing. The entire experience was a letdown. PD2 was so so so much fun and this game arrived just wobbly and with pre-shat pants. What a damn dud.

Rentlar,

50 hours of gameplay! If you include the amount of time it takes to read the Terms of Service, Privacy Policy and End User License Agreement.

Zoidsberg, do games w Starbreeze admits Payday 3 is massively underperforming
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9715698,

Damn it’s weird seeing that meme in such high resolution.

haui_lemmy, do games w Embracer says it's looking out for shareholders after cutting almost 1,400 jobs

Abolish shareholder primacy

Marsupial,
@Marsupial@quokk.au avatar

Abolish shareholders.

dumpsterlid, do games w Embracer says it's looking out for shareholders after cutting almost 1,400 jobs

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/f2067249-b01f-4c09-be75-3769571db96e.webm

CALLING ALL THE CONDESCENDING PEOPLE WHO KEPT SAYING “LETS JUST WAIT AND SEE” WHEN PEOPLE LIKE ME POINTED OUT THIS WOULD HAPPEN WHEN THEIR BELOVED GAME DEVELOPMENT STUDIO SOLD ITSELF TO EMBRACER

KingThrillgore, do games w Embracer says it's looking out for shareholders after cutting almost 1,400 jobs
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

At least they’re being honest about it!

As an Embracer shareholder, I think i’m ready to sell at a loss and move on with my life. This company is doomed. I’ve lost more than value watching them go to shit, they’ve actively killed projects I cared about. They are going to fall apart and nobody will touch the IP.

KingThrillgore, do games w Starbreeze admits Payday 3 is massively underperforming
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The live service bubble is bursting.

GlitterInfection,

God I hope!

Phegan,

I hope the take away from this is that no matter if a game is live service or not it needs to run, not nickel dime players, and be good. Or it will bust.

Katana314,

If they wanted to focus on live service, I’m surprised they made a trilogy of games. In the meantime a bunch of other devs just kept adding content to the one game their players play.

Not good for Payday’s fans to compete within their trilogy for attention.

aluminium, do games w Starbreeze admits Payday 3 is massively underperforming

This game also brilliantly exposed how easily certain YouTubers get corrupted.

yamanii,
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Not like this actman…

beetus,

Could you elaborate on which? I’ve seen a lot of sketchy reviews recently

Phegan, do games w Embracer says it's looking out for shareholders after cutting almost 1,400 jobs

Embracer can suck my dick.

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