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Grandwolf319, do games w Devs should not be "forced to run on a treadmill until their mental or physical health breaks", says publisher of Manor Lords, citing how gamers seem to be trained to expect endless content work now

Weird post. I thought we were all aware of the enshitification in gaming, they had a head start on the rest of the tech industry.

eezeebee, do games w Devs should not be "forced to run on a treadmill until their mental or physical health breaks", says publisher of Manor Lords, citing how gamers seem to be trained to expect endless content work now
@eezeebee@lemmy.ca avatar

I’m kind of confused about the whole early access thing and why devs do it. Is it to get support and funding to finish the project?

Marighost,
@Marighost@lemm.ee avatar

Basically, yeah. If your game is in a playable state, launching in early access allows devs to get feedback from the community, who help shape the game all the way to the full release. Generally EA games are discounted, with the expectation that it isn’t finished or polished, full of bugs, etc.

eezeebee,
@eezeebee@lemmy.ca avatar

That makes sense and I hadn’t considered the feedback aspect. I can see how that must be helpful, especially for a solo developer. Thanks!

Zahille7,

In almost all the EA games I play, there’s some kind of “bug report” feature, either somewhere directly on the screen while you’re playing, or in the pause menu or something.

Chee_Koala,

Adding to the other reply to this: You can get natural growth of fans and wishlists, you can get free media attention so your brand/gamename grows in popularity, you can receive enthusiasm from randoms about work you have been keeping to yourself for a while, which can help motivate. I mean I’m super hyped about my own videogame project, but having other people be hyped about it is very rewarding :-). I used to shun early access until they became 1.0, because I got burnt a couple times. But If the dev(s) are transparent and communication is ok, I don’t really care anymore for the same reason as this dev is pointing out: “It’s done when it’s done” is good enough in 95% of the cases for me.

eezeebee,
@eezeebee@lemmy.ca avatar

I’m dabbling in game development myself, and that’s part of why I asked the question originally- I’d be terrified to put something out there for the public if I wasn’t already confident it was ready. Early access seems like a double-edged sword. But you list some good points about the benefits of doing so.

By the way, I am interested to hear about your game project if you would like to share some details.

Chee_Koala,

I think the crucial part is natural fanbase growth… As a solo dev, your marketing budget is gonna be so extremely tiny, and releasing with 0 marketing is setting yourself up for disappointment so, it has got to come from somewhere. Maybe EA is not a necessity, but having a steam page is. Confidently typing this while not having a steam page to show for it, but you know what the Dutch say: the best captain is ashore (de beste stuurlui staan aan wal)

It’s gonna be extremely terrifying 😅

elxeno,

AFAIK u get a half release before to get some attention and media/youtubers coverage and people to test your game and make suggestions.

Then you get another release when exiting EA (notifies whishlist and steam gives boosts visibility to released games for a short while and it gets extended if it goes well)

IsThisAnAI, do games w Devs should not be "forced to run on a treadmill until their mental or physical health breaks", says publisher of Manor Lords, citing how gamers seem to be trained to expect endless content work now

Every single aspect of video game development is trash. From executives to absurdly whiney and entitled gamer population.

tyrant, do games w Devs should not be "forced to run on a treadmill until their mental or physical health breaks", says publisher of Manor Lords, citing how gamers seem to be trained to expect endless content work now

It depends on the game. If I buy a game from a smaller publisher I expect it to be a complete work with full story line. Unfortunately… When I buy from a large publisher I expect to be getting a ¾ complete game that will give me expansion packs.

This isn’t the case with Nintendo games though. I feel like and Nintendo game is just done and any extras are… Extra.

dinckelman,

Read back what you just wrote, and go for a walk to let it brew for a bit.

Why the fuck would anyone slave their only life away, for any employer?

tyrant,

I’m not saying anyone should work without pay. I’m saying that with the way publishers release games I expect AAA releases to be unfinished works at this point.

ilovededyoupiggy, do gaming w More than 100,000 people are currently playing a Steam game where you click a banana
@ilovededyoupiggy@sh.itjust.works avatar

The screenshots on steam jump from 2 to 4.

What happened to 3?!

thingsiplay, do gaming w More than 100,000 people are currently playing a Steam game where you click a banana

It’s not the first time where a click game got viral. But it’s probably the first time having this much success. What can I say, if people find it enjoyable, go for it. But what I don’t understand is, how people cheat with even such a click game, by using bots. It’s so funny.

edit:

Despite this seemingly benign gameplay

Calling this a game or gameplay is funny in itself. People are “playing” the dumbest things if they get bored.

applepie, do gaming w Baldur's Gate 3 developer opens Poland studio as work on new projects "ramps up"

Poaching cdpr talent?

Fedizen, do games w Images leak of Valve's next game, and it's an Overwatch-style hero shooter

I thought overwatch was based on team fortress. Why not just a new team fortress?

KingThrillgore, do games w Images leak of Valve's next game, and it's an Overwatch-style hero shooter
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

Sounds boring.

Cybersteel, do games w Cyberpunk 2077 director thanks fans as the game hits a 95% positive review rating on Steam
@Cybersteel@lemmy.world avatar

You mean idiots easily fooled then yea…

HumanBehaviorByBjork, do gaming w GAME staff discovered zero hours contracts move via mass Microsoft Teams calls
@HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net avatar

gamers rise up

p03locke, do gaming w Nightdive's acclaimed System Shock remake heading to consoles in May
@p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Good, they’ve been on a tear of classic remakes here lately, and I hope the new engine System Shock was built from can be used to remake System Shock 2.

toasteecup, do gaming w Mother creator says "please talk to Nintendo, not me" about missing western launch

Nintendo? Make shitty business decisions? Never

RampantParanoia2365, do games w PlayStation won't launch any "major" games in existing franchises this year

Well, I’m about to start Alan Wake 2, then I’ll start Death Stranding, and then Baldur’s Gate. Plus I could probably go through Spider-Man and Cyberpunk again. So personally I should be eating well for a while.

Computerchairgeneral, do gaming w Deus Ex Adam Jensen actor says goodbye to character, as he laments state of the industry

Man can't catch a break can he? I hope something he's working on actually makes it to release.

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