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Quibblekrust, do games w $80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"

In today’s dollars, my local video game store in 1991 was selling Wizardry for the NES for $141.

Fuck, the average AAA Atari 2600 game was $99 in today’s dollars. Games like Pitfall and Pac-Man.

Just some perspective. I’m going to go yell at a cloud or something, now.

andros_rex,

Atari 2600 Pac Man is shit lol

Quibblekrust,

Yet I played it so much I can hear it in my head right now.

bobo,

bunk bunk ba-bunk bunk! Koik-doik! Koik-doik!

Voroxpete,

I’m actually OK with games costing a bit more to sell if they cost a lot to make; god knows, the devs deserve to get paid properly. But, one, that money won’t actually make it to the devs, and two, any time Randy Pitchford is for something it’s really hard not to automatically be against it, on the assumption that he’s so consistently wrong about everything, and just such an unbelievable piece of shit, that just assuming he’s in the wrong is the safest bet.

interdimensionalmeme,

The devs are not seeing a penny over what it would cost to replace them with someone hungrier.

interdimensionalmeme,

Fabrication costs have plummeted, while choice and competition in this space exoloded.

Financialization is what happenned to gaming and that’s why cultural successes are being leveraged at extortionate prices.

Borderlands 3 was boring ass slop too. BL4 is going to be a stinker.

TurboHarbinger, do games w $80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"

I knew Randy would fuck up the game somehow.

Voroxpete,

Seriously, why do they let him talk? The man is a walking PR disaster.

Then again, we should all be asking how the hell he’s not in jail for possession of child porn, so I guess this is a pretty minor thing in comparison.

joel_feila, do games w $80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"
@joel_feila@lemmy.world avatar

And my way is, wait a few years for the deluxe edition to come out on sale.

dragonbringerx,

Shit, I waited until BL3 was free on PSN, and I’ll get around to it someday.

bss03, do games w $80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"

I agree, but when you wouldn’t let Aspyr do a Linux port for BL3, I stopped being a “real fan”.

MehBlah, do games w $80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"

Arrrrrr!

bitjunkie, do games w $80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"

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mic_check_one_two,

Unfortunately, the real appeal of the Borderlands series is multiplayer. The games are alright in single player mode, but multiplayer is where it really shines. And cracked copies likely won’t work with multiplayer, because they use game servers for matchmaking.

dual_sport_dork,
@dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world avatar

IIRC all of the past ones have worked over LAN, including over a private VPN if you so desire. I definitely played pirated copies of 1 and 2 with my mates. I had no real desire to get very deep into 3 because the campaign storyline was so stupid, but I don’t doubt you could.

It’s only online matchmaking with randos that you’ll be blocked from, which if you ask me is not really that much of a detriment.

neons,

Theseus’ ship? Borderlands 4 is just the projectfile of borderlands 2 with every part replaced? 😱

Mustakrakish,

Would be better than 3

JigglySackles, do games w $80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"

Guess I’m not a real fan. Fuck you Randy. He’s such a cunt.

xiii,

While working on Borderlands 3, the team was severely underpaid. People started quitting, so Randy promised them an “unprecedented company profit-sharing bonus model.” That never got paid—he blamed “higher-than-anticipated development costs and sales not meeting projections.” Borderlands 3 went GOTY, a few dozens millions copies sold. Randy secured a $12M executive bonus for himself. When staff expressed dissatisfaction, Pitchford told them they were free to quit. This was in the middle of the pandemic, and the job market was absolute crap.

mcvuk.com/…/borderlands-3-developer-gearbox-accus…

conditional_soup,

If anyone deserves for his workers to get unionized, it’s this asshole

JigglySackles,

I’ve not heard a single good thing about him. He’s just a toolbag through and through.

alexaralvarado, do games w $80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"
@alexaralvarado@infosec.pub avatar

I’ve found a way to play every Borderlands game, 2 is my fave, and not pay more than 12 usd, for the 3rd one which I didn’t even get halfway through 'cause it’s boring AF - I love Steam sales and don’t have FOMO

the_riviera_kid, do games w $80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"

It’s like they don’t understand how piracy works.

3migo, do games w $80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"
@3migo@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve been a big Borderlands fan for 10+ years. I played through the first one multiple times and loved it. My wife and I bonded over BL1 when we first started dating.

Was super excited for BL2, and have played it many times throughout the years.

But the pre-sequel was a let down, and BL3 felt soulless and lacked the same spark as BL2.

Tiny Tina Wonderlands was great, and felt like a return to what made BL2 so fun.

All that to say, I don’t have high hopes for BL4, nor will I be paying $80 for it. It just feels like they’re coasting off the brand name at this point and trying to exploit longtime BL players like myself.

Spaniard,
@Spaniard@lemmy.world avatar

What’s your take on the telltale game?

Krauerking,

Not OP but Tales from the Borderlands 1 us my favorite of the telltale game collection and has some of my favorite music videos ever and wears its emotions on its sleeve for you to empathize with its characters in clever real ways.

3migo,
@3migo@lemmy.world avatar

I never played the Tales from Borderlands myself, but my wife did and she really enjoyed it. She said it added a lot to the story lore presented in BL2.

I did enjoy the Walking Dead telltale game along with the Wolf Among Us, though.

Drbreen, do games w $80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"

Oh I’ll find a way alright.

fmstrat, do games w $80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"

Give us guaranteed emploment of the staff that built it, and you get guaranteed pre orders?

But_my_mom_says_im_cool,

Wait, how do you guarantee employment to a team after their work and contract is complete?

theneverfox,
@theneverfox@pawb.social avatar

You say what project they’ll be transitioning to as less and less bug fixes are necessary. Could even be dlc

fmstrat,

Game development should not be a gig economy. It is often treated as such so studio execs can pocket more money by dropping staff at release to pad their own wallets. There are plenty of game companies, and millions of companies in other sectors, that reinvest that capital into the company.

But what about other forms of entertainment? Movies! Books! Music!

Royalties. This would be another solution.

Tagging @theneverfox because they might find the thought of royalties vs continued Dev interesting.

theneverfox,
@theneverfox@pawb.social avatar

I do find it interesting…I don’t think it addresses the problem, but it sounds like a great idea

Realistically, how much are companies going to pay out in royalties? As little as they can get away with

Let’s say it’s 2% of a game that made $100M - you’re looking at tens of thousands each when it’s all split up. Which is great, maybe even life changing for some of them, but it’s not financial security kind of money

And then let’s say the game flops or gets cancelled… Well that’s not going to help much, so you can’t really rely on it

So I think the idea is great, but it’s still just fiddling with the knobs of capitalism

EarWorm, do games w $80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"

TIL real Borderlands fans are pirates.

tomi000,

They become pirates if necessary.

Vanilla_PuddinFudge, do games w $80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"
@Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub avatar

put it on my wish list

buy it for $15 in a year

yawn

technomad,

I feel like if it drops that much in one year, it’s probably a pretty shit game anyway right?

Vanilla_PuddinFudge,
@Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub avatar

If it being Borderlands 4 wasn’t enough of a tip considering the stellar writing we had on pre-sequel and 3.

neons, do games w $80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"

I’m absolutely ready to pay 80$ for a game. But then I don’t want to see scummy shit like lootboxes or advanced access in it. If I pay 80$ I expect to see a game release that isn’t half-baked and has to get fixed with hotfixes and patches over the next two months but that just works out of the box and that doesn’t try to get me to spend even more money on it. That also includes no content that they’ve already produced being held back for DLCs.

Delphia,

This has always been my counterpoint for the Nintendo haters when they complain about price. (Although they are a shit company in several other ways) Because when my daughter wants a new switch game if its a top tier Nintendo title its going to be a finished game with zero bugs and zero concern about problematic content for me.

sugar_in_your_tea,

Exactly. That’s why I buy Nintendo games near release and am patient for PC games.

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