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wmcduff, do gaming w What's the funniest game you've played?

I think it'd have to be Portal...mmm, the first one. I think learning about Glados the first time is a little better than the whole potato thing.

Vodulas,

Portal 2 has some jokes that did not age well too.

zuzu,

Whoa, do you remember any specific examples? I haven’t played since it came out

Vodulas,

There are a lot of fat jokes, and they aren’t punching up at all. Don’t remember specifics since it has been about a year since I last played.

SpaceCowboy,
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But wasn’t that the evil AI very explicitly trying to psychologically hurt the protagonist and being really lame about it? I mean it’s the evil AI doing it and I remember the point of it being that fat jokes are lame.

Vodulas,

I get that context, but see my other comment about that. beehaw.org/comment/1142644

Sorry don’t want to have to copy pasta on 2 threads covering the same topic. Probably should have not replied to both comments initially

amio,

This is a new take to me, anyway. What do you mean?

Vodulas,

There are a lot of fat jokes, and they aren’t punching up at all.

Reil,

I always sort of read those jokes as illustrative as GLaDOS being a bad person fielding weak material more than like, an earnest expression of the game writer’s values. Like, the game itself doesn’t present the remarks themselves as funny so much as GLaDOS being rude, snippy, and actively incorrect given that Chell is mega-fit.

bermuda, (edited )

I agree, especially considering Wheatley makes fat jokes the moment

spoilerhe takes over for GLaDOS.

LoamImprovement,

Yeah, that always came across as “I’m trying to neg you but I ran out of my best insults like an hour ago so I’m throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks.” Same with the adopted joke.

Defenestrator,

I’ve always assumed it’s Gabe Newell getting revenge for all the fat jokes he’s endured.

Vodulas, (edited )

I get that context, and I think that was for sure the intent, but they did not stick the landing. We already knew GLaDOS is evil. Casual fatphobia was not necessary. Plus the fact that some people won’t get that context or choose to ignore it and just think it is funny, as evidenced further down this thread.

Edit: The person saying they would replay it for the fat jokes was removed, so my last sentence makes less sense, but that was the reason I said that

SpaceCowboy,
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There’s an extremely long list of creative works made to be satire that idiots don’t understand. The Colbert Report, Starship Troopers, hell there are people that think Homelander is the good guy in The Boys. I think it’s a little too restrictive if someone can’t make a point that certain jokes are lame out of fear of how a few idiots might misinterpret it (many times deliberately). There are people right now arguing that the Barbie movie is actually “anti-woke”.

Also consider how many people actually did get the message. They heard how lame the jokes sounded and realized how stupid fat jokes are. From what I recall, the game really makes an effort to deconstruct these jokes. There is no audience within the game laughing at the jokes, and the evil AI explicitly states that it’s making the jokes solely to to negatively affect the protagonists psychological well being to prevent her from achieving anything. And the jokes are directed at the player, so someone that might have made these jokes themselves hears someone else directing these jokes at them and can hear how lame they are. The evil AI comes across as lame, petty, and desperate. Someone who made fat jokes before playing that game might have had the realization “is that how I sound?”

I feel like the people that didn’t get the context likely made fat jokes before playing the game, and would be making fat jokes even if they never played the game. So I don’t think there was any negative impact. Someone that committed to being an idiot isn’t going change in either direction from any kind of media.

Vodulas,

Like I said, I understand the context. I don’t need more of it.

Jokes like this and the other examples require either a very deft hand or an extreme level of satire. The jokes did not achieve either of those for me. The harm it causes by folks misinterpreting or ignoring context is not worth the people who get it. I have friends that would 100% understand the context and would still be made uncomfortable by the delivery. That to me is the best indicator to how well it aged.

Also, posting a wall of text full of ableism is also not a great way to convince me otherwise

SpaceCowboy,
@SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca avatar

Yeah I never except anyone on the internet to admit they’re wrong about anything. But randomly accusing someone of being ablest based solely on a disagreement over the interpretation of a piece of media is rather petty behavior (even by internet standards), don’t you think?

Vodulas,

I am saying you used a ton of ablist language in your post, that part had nothing to do with the disagreement. It put me off reading your post at all.

executivechimp,
@executivechimp@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

The cake is a lie.

Catastrophic235,
@Catastrophic235@midwest.social avatar

Nice! I’ll have to play it again one of these days to check them out lol.

Vodulas,

Wow, you still think fat jokes are funny in 2023. how embarrassing for you.

Catastrophic235,
@Catastrophic235@midwest.social avatar

“You do thing I no like, how embarrassing for you”

Lmao maybe if you keep saying it it’ll be true?

SkepticElliptic, do gaming w Switch 2 - launch games?

In keeping with Nintendo naming conventions it with be the “switch u” or more likely “switcheroo” It will be a VR based system that seems like an add on peripheral for the switch, but is actually a new system that nobody buys due to confusion and lack of titles.

TonyTonyChopper,
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I’d put 5 quid on “New Virtual Boy”

CraigeryTheKid,

I still have mine! And it works! Seizure warnings and all!

MJBrune,

I have doubts about the VR thing. Since VR in general doesn’t seem to be healthy or safe for kids under 13. The lowest age recommendation for a VR headset is 12 and that’s just Sony. I highly doubt Nintendo is going to put their brand in the line for a gimmick as weak as VR is. Besides Nintendo gimmicks are about unique innovation. Not rehashing an already dying gimmick.

butter,

Fun fact. The Wii 2 was called the Wii u because the Japanese word for 2 is ‘ni’.

Dagnet, do gaming w If the same game is available and on sale on GOG and Steam, on which platform you rather buy it?

GOG. I like actually owning the games I buy

foggenbooty,

Yup. Steam is my go-to because of easy game steaming, steam deck integration, etc. But I know what I’m sacrificing for that convenience. Luckily Valve is an incredibly customer focused company and I have a huge amount of (well deserved IMO) faith in. GOG however is definitely still the best way to own your games.

JoMiran, do games w PC Game Recommendation for a Broken Arm?
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

If all else fails, Vampire Survivors.

Heastes,

Or many of the other games in the genre as long as they have auto-aim. Brotato and halls of torment are worth checking out, imo.

SamPond, do gaming w I hate how much my brain starts remembering interesting stuff when I finally sit down to play a video game
@SamPond@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

A lot of things can cause “the mind to wander” and, frankly, I’m not a health professional but as a person who sometimes has trouble focusing I somewhat sympathize. There are times when I simply can’t sit down and enjoy myself, and there’s nothing that can be done about that. Usually times of high stress and anxiety.

But outside of those extreme cases, there’s generally a few things here and there that can help alleviate. The first, and maybe almost stupidly obvious one, is to do some of those tasks beforehand. I don’t have to stress about doing the dishes or paying the bills or returning a call if I just do it beforehand. Logging into the bank app is just 5 minutes, why worry about it otherwise.

Another is to get comfortable and shut yourself off. Leave your phone in a place you can’t reach from wherever you’re gaming (or watching a movie, or reading or studying. Your phone should actually be in a different room every time you don’t immediately need it) as well as any other electronic devices. Close the windows and doors, turn off your PC. Make it a bother to stop enjoying yourself.

Take a bathroom break (or if its in the evening, a shower+grooming) and maybe have a snack or a full meal. Have a bottle of water nearby. That crosses out basic biologic annoyances (until you need a pee break but that’s at least a healthy obstacle).

Exercise a bit. Sounds out there, but exhausting yourself physically isn’t only healthy, it also takes your mind off a lot of things. Since that’s a relatively boring activity that can also have your mind wander, have some podcasts handy, but something light and preferably with 2+ hosts so you can have several voices in your head that aren’t yours but also don’t need to follow a story or anything heavy. Going on a walk while listening to a 1 hour episode should be good enough (and something we all should do regardless of attention issues)

On the subject of podcasts, I’ve found that some games aren’t gripping enough to draw my attention or are repetitive enough that I don’t need to dedicate all of my attention to them, so I’ve dubbed them Podcast Games and do both at the same time. Roguelikes do very well in this regard, as well as management games, or anything that isn’t story heavy (or if the story blows) and where the sound isn’t exactly necessary.

And sometimes, ultimately, maybe you just aren’t really in the mood for a game. There are hobbies of mine that I enjoy, but don’t do much because I’m not “in the zone” as often, like reading or watching a TV series. So if gaming is like that for you, swap around and enjoy yourself, time spent doing something you like isn’t time wasted.

Optional: I’ve found that I’m much better at sitting down and watching a movie or a show when I have someone alongside me to chat up. Maybe having someone along to play/watch together, or simply streaming through Discord for a friend might be a solution. You’d be surprised at how many other people are also bored and would accept an invite to watch you play while chatting about their day.

vent,

Really excellent reply!

kresten,

I appreciate the time you put into writing your reply!

TheOakTree,

Close the windows and doors, turn off your PC.

What if I game on my PC ;-;

Thcdenton, do games w The signatures are still coming and it's already making an impact
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Zahtu, do gaming w Founder of Arkane Studios: "I think Gamepass is an unsustainable model that has been increasingly damaging the industry for a decade"; impacts sales

That is part of the reason why i have never purchased it. Financially, selling Gamepass does not make sense, as the prices does not justify the buy-in to get a substantial amount of Games onto it, making it worthwhile. For Microsoft it only makes Sense, when they see additional Profitpoints Like the closed Market on it and Killing competition. Once that is done, the quality and amount of Games going to Gamepass will certainly worsen.

And we do Not need to forget that Microsoft is a Data Company. So by requiring the Gamepass service be installed onto your machine, they certainly get a load of Data about you from it. Which neither benefits the Game developers nor the consumers.

As for the Points of “Low barrier to entry, Games trying Out Games” - duh, thats what Demos are for

OutlierBlue,

This is absolutely a case of getting in, killing the competition, then jacking the price and tanking the quality.

And because it’s a service, despite using it for years and paying all that money into it, as soon as you leave you have nothing. All those games are just gone.

GiveOver, do gaming w I have a shelf of boxes that I just can't throw out...

Flatten it though, ffs

frenchfryenjoyer,
@frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world avatar

Or rip it up. Means there’s less space in the black (recycle) bin

jumping_redditor,

isn’t recycling blue?

MudMan, do games w Dune game

I think maybe I'm spoiled by the movies, but... I kind of hate it? I hate all the ways they had to cherry pick Dune stuff to turn it into a survival crafting MMO like Conan, especially in the parts where the lore fits worse than Conan. And the story is extremely videogamey. I think the new films are already a bit overly literal when it comes to choosing between the politics and the psychedelia, but man, does Dune Awakening do videogame-ass videogame dream sequences.

The disconnected, patchy reality of the original Cryo Dune got to the right feel accidentally, but there's something to seeing the setting reduced to a skin over Conan Exiles that seriously rubs me the wrong way.

ryven,
@ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

The videogamey parts are really funny to me. I laughed my ass off when I saw Thufir Hawat standing around in the heat outside the Leto residence in Arrakeen because I guess players have to talk to him at some point, and the interior of the residence doesn’t exist in the game, so he has to stand around under an awning in the parking lot like a valet or something.

SacralPlexus,

Totally agree. I only got it to play with friends who are into it but was hoping it would be good. The story / cutscenes are so incredibly cheesy to me. It’s almost a parody but the joke never quite lands.

thatKamGuy, do games w What's an absolutely medium quality game? Not great, incredible or terrible or any single ended extreme. Dead medium quality

Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning

Had all the individual makings of an exceptional game (with input from Todd Macfarlane, R A Salvatore and Grant Kirkhope), and while it was definitely enjoyable enough - it lacked any wow-factor whatsoever, winding up an otherwise forgettable 7/10.

callouscomic,

At the time of its release, it’s wow factor for me was simply some fucking color, compared to PS3 Skyrim which had released mere months earlier.

I love both games, but there’s something about Amalur that I think I love more that I can only think of as it being just medium, average, mediocre but not bad. It’s just something kinda fun. Comfortable.

thatKamGuy,

Oh no doubt, my (vague) memories of it are definitely in vivid bright colours.

I originally got it as I was looking for a single player World of Warcraft-like experience, and I did play through a significant portion of the main story - but eventually went back to WoW as it didn’t quite scratch that itch enough.

I probably should revisit it sometime in the near future - hopefully on the Steam Deck (haven’t checked compatibility).

sexual_tomato,

The main thing I remember about this game is that it was financed by the fortune of a former MLB baseball player, independent of any game studio.

ampersandrew,
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Sort of. Their funding was also tied up in the state of Rhode Island. Reckoning was purchased by 38 Studios, who were making a Kingdoms of Amalur MMORPG, and then the game was made to be in the same universe. The MMO burned through cash and never released, and the sunken studio brought Reckoning’s developer down with it.

thatKamGuy,

Yes, it was developed by Curt Shilling’s 38 Studios - but it was actually largely financed by the state of Rhode Island, and the studio ended up defaulting on payments!

Honestly, the story of the game’s development was more interesting than the story within the game itself!

Rai,

7/10 to me is a good game. I hate how people rate games. I’ve always hated it. A 6/10 game is enjoyable. A 5/10 game is absolutely mid. A 4/10 game is okay. 3/10 has huge flaws but is worth playing if you’re into that.

Subnautica is an 8/10 game for me. I thought it was amazing. I loved it. Below Zero was a 6/10 game. I thought it was good. I enjoyed it, and I would not call it “absolute mid.”

thatKamGuy,

In a world where games are scored across a full spectrum 0-or-1 to 10, then yes - anything 4-6 would be considered middle of the road.

However, due to a number of factors - that’s unfortunately not the reality we find ourselves in.

Firstly, “mid” is hard to define as it can mean anything from ‘mediocre’ to ‘fine, but forgettable’.

Secondly, ratings/scores tend to skew upward as people tend to reserve 1s for outright scams, broken games and review bombs. With 2 & 3 often used for ‘asset flips’ and similar non-games - so we end up grading on a curve from 4-10.

This also works well for mainstream outlets as it keeps advertisers happy, due to arbitrarily inflated scores.

Lastly, in a world of cumulative media (new releases don’t cause older ones to stop existing) - even ostensibly good games will fall by the wayside as players have access to 10/10 titles from previous years.

So all things considered, a 7/10 is well and truly “mid” in this topsy-turvey IGN-eque world

EnsignPacts, do games w What's going on with Borderlands 2? Steam is giving it for free, but the game has 23% positive recent reviews.

I checked the Steam depots. It seems the game files haven’t been updated since 2022. All that seems to have changed is some license agreement in February. Seems to be a thing across take two games, and not specific to borderlands 2.

Basically nothing has changed in real terms for this game. Maybe borderlands 4 might have draconian DRM, who knows.

tomi000,

They can drop updates anytime after they made sure to have you accept the spyware.

EnsignPacts,

I doubt it though, the game will be 13 years old this year. It wouldn’t make financial sense for them to bother.

propitiouspanda,

That’s not the point.

edgemaster72, do games w Catchiest video game song?
@edgemaster72@lemmy.world avatar

Does the Wii shop music count as a video game song?

Baggie, (edited ) do games w I'm a console gamer so, Why the hate on the Epic Games Store?

Big issue for me is the direction towards incentivised exclusivity. I can tolerate it on consoles (barely nowdays) because you’re paying someone to use your hardware instead of another, and you have to specifically develop for console hardware. That takes time and effort.

Different distribution platforms do not have such issues, and I don’t want exclusivity anywhere near PC gaming, unless you’re self publishing. Frankly if they weren’t banging on about steam using the industry standard % take, while they themselves are trying to undercut and use garbage tactics, I would have absolutely no problem with them, same as Ubisoft and EA’s garbage store.

sundray, do gaming w MMORPGs are hilarious for this

“Yeah, I’ve been to the afterlife and killed the ‘World-Eater’ but sure… I guess I’ll find those books for you.”

Hupf,
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masterspace, do games w I want a law for PC games to be offered in physical versions again

I would rather a law that extends many of the properties of physical ownership to digital sales.

bob_omb_battlefield,

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