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Mojave, do games w RuneScape is increasing their membership price by 50%, and Reddit is trying to censor it

$12 to $14

50% increase

Pick one

ABCDE,

Or learn to read.

2ncs,

Or change the title to up to 50%

Gorely,

That’s it. Lemmy, ban OP for a year.

papertowels,

Wait hold on, how does an across the board increase from $12 USD to $14 USD result in 50% increase in price, “depending on currency”?

Isn’t currency conversion just a scalar multiplier that applies to both the $12 starting cost and the $14 new cost?

Weslee,

No, not sure if other industries do this, but buying a game in a weak currency usually turns out cheaper (by alot) because Devs will usually offer the game for a lower price in the weaker economy

papertowels,

So OP wrote a misleading description when saying the increase was from $12 to $14?

I don’t play RuneScape and I’m just going off of their description, which is inconsistent and the derogatory “just read lol” has so far shown to be wrong.

Weslee,

Well OP does say the price increase ranges from 20% to 50%

In other currencies the price change is over 50%, for example Euro price going from 8 to 12.50

papertowels,

Ah, that would’ve been much better for OP to include as an example…

ABCDE,

Because they quoted the dollar price, and how it affects other countries. The prices are featured in the link, SEK is particularly egregious.

papertowels, (edited )

I feel like I’m missing something completely - maybe I do need to learn how to read. The only thing I’m seeing on the jagex page is new prices for a handful of currencies under “pricing table”, SEK is not one of them.

There’s no mention of past prices at all? Is there another link I’m not seeing?

EDIT: I think my main point is that as far as I can tell, you need to be an active member of the RuneScape community to know what the prices actually increased from, so “learn to read” wasn’t very helpful to casual passerbys, and OPs post could have some more clarity and examples of increased prices for those not already in the know. It was especially confusing that the only example they provided wasn’t an example of the 50% increase mentioned in the title.

This is a general games community so I think it’s fair to ask for some more context and leniency for such a niche game. If you want folks to care, don’t make it hard for them to do so.

ABCDE,

Read the Reddit posts.

papertowels,

Oh.

I don’t think I care enough about drama in a niche game to do a deep dive on all of the reddit comments to learn about something…

It would be helpful if you or OP could provide links, or at least quote things. Most passerbys simply have better things to do than to find better context of what OP is saying about a game from 20 years ago. I think it’s only natural for people to be confused when OP didn’t provide enough context, or the only way to get context is to apparently read an entire Reddit threads worth of comments.

ABCDE,

The price increase percentage is in the OP. Specific prices are in the linked Reddit post. The context was enough for everyone else.

papertowels,

“why can’t you be like everyone else?”

Idk guess I just like to verify shit before picking up the pitchfork. My b.

ABCDE,

I just like to verify shit

I don’t think I care enough

Choose one. I told you where I found the specific prices. I mentioned which currency was particularly egregious so you could find the price yourself independently but you didn’t care to.

papertowels,

I think a compelling statement should be made with citations if it’s not a well known fact, especially when provided to a general community.

I don’t care enough about niche old game drama to chase down the facts myself if it involves going through the comments of an entire Reddit mega thread.

Does that resolve your proposed cognitive dissonance?

ABCDE,

The person gave you a percentage range of the increase and that it applies to different currencies. You have been given the opportunity to find more info if that’s insufficient. If you don’t care enough, that’s on you. I don’t play this game and don’t care to read any more comments from you about this silly topic.

papertowels,

You have been given the opportunity to find more info if that’s insufficient.

“Do your own research”, a line associated with the great and credible orators of the internet.

ABCDE,

You were given enough information about something you said you don’t care about. I told you I don’t care to read any more comments from you, yet you persist. Weird.

papertowels,

There were no citations to back up relatively unknown claims besides digging through the comments of a reddit mega thread.

If that counts as making a good argument to anyone, I envy their free time, or worry for their information hygiene.

I told you I don’t care to read any more comments from you, yet you persist. Weird.

Do you fancy yourself royalty dismissing their subjects? Lol. At once, my liege, I will be gone from your sight. Toodles!

Tudsamfa, do games w Recommendation engine: Downvote any game you've heard of before
@Tudsamfa@lemmy.world avatar

Underhero is a RPG. There is (bad) 2D platforming and an interesting blend between turn based and real time battles with decent amount of player expression, but I find most interesting the writing and scenarios you will find yourself in during the game. You play as an Underling after the Hero has an unfortunate accident after all, and while technically a silent protagonist, all entries in the journal/hint system/to-do list are just brimming with personality.

I swear I first saw this game in list of “Paper Mario-likes”, but I can’t find a single video with that topic that mentions it, and now I realize that it only has like 600 reviews on steam.

simple, do games w Star Wars Outlaws - Review Thread

Reviews are very mixed. Some people love it, some people claim it’s half baked and a waste of time. That eurogamer review was rough.

Jackthelad,

The Eurogamer review describes what I expected from this game.

Generic, repetitive Ubisoft fare.

brenticus,

Yep, it sounds pretty much exactly like what people expected.

Honestly, I’m on a bit of a Star Wars kick lately and it’s been long enough since I’ve played an Ubisoft open world to find some enjoyment, so I might pick this up. But it certainly doesn’t sound like it’s going to blow me away.

Jackthelad,

I was looking forward to it until I found out it was being made by Ubisoft.

I love Star Wars, but I knew that this game would have exactly the same mechanics that I hate in all Ubisoft games.

teft,
@teft@lemmy.world avatar

I’d wait for at least 3 months. Ubisoft games usually nose dive into the sales a few months after they release.

VelvetGentleman,

Why pay for it at all?

teft,
@teft@lemmy.world avatar

Everyone has their own tastes in gaming. I don’t judge.

candid,

I love the world of Star Wars more so than the stories lately aside from Andor so I’ll be giving this a go through their sub service. 18 bucks to knock this out and Prince Of Persia in a month, two games I’ll never touch again after completion, is quite a deal imo.

Coelacanth,
@Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

Eurogamer is quickly turning into one of the more trusted review sites for me, rarely holding back.

MellowYellow13,

Yeah it’s awesome and refreshing

Murvel,

Lmao, are you kidding me? In his review, he paints the picture of missing climbing Far Cry radio towers and finding a thousand pointless little POI and stupid number challenges.

That is by far the most tiresome aspect of the Ubisoft open world formula…

Coelacanth,
@Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

He… didn’t? Far Cry was not mentioned at all and he had this to say about radio towers:

You may be delighted to hear there are no towers to scale to push back Outlaws’ fog of war here: these open world areas - really a collection of entirely distinct biomes, separated by hyper space or fast travel - reveal themselves fully on arrival.

Maybe you were thinking of this in the conclusion, but I don’t think these observations are incorrect:

It speaks back to Outlaws’ issues with stripping away the bulk of the Ubisoft formula and finding so little underneath - or more broadly, a general misunderstanding of what you ought to be stripping away here and why. The Ubisoft open world functions so well because of how this clutter weaves itself together so intoxicatingly that you can’t help but flow from one to the next, from looting to crafting to combat to gear to unlocking another area of the world and more. The heist flick works because of its characters - their complexity, obsession or greed - as much as it does the sheer fun of actually doing a heist.

Star Wars Outlaws, by comparison, feels like it’s blagging it - much as Kay can, when regularly caught out by some far more worldly syndicate boss. The result is a series of quite painful comparisons: it lacks the branching, open stealth of an Arkham game, the systemic options of a Dishonored or the incisive, relentlessly satisfying speed of picking enemies off in Assassin’s Creed. It lacks the linear polish and charisma of Uncharted. Lacks the animation flow to its yellow-ledge platforming next to a Horizon, or the sheer joy of taking platforming and making it into an actual game in itself, as in Star Wars Jedi.

Murvel,

The ‘Far cry radio tower’ is a common euphemism for pointless busy work in most Ubistofts’ open world games…

Nuke_the_whales,

I always ignore anyone who uses phrases like “waste of time”. Too many people don’t have an in between anymore and games are either a 10/10 or “unplayable garbage”, like come on now, just cause a game is a 7 it doesn’t mean it’s trash.

beebarfbadger,

What does “7” even mean? I enjoyed every aspect of it precisely 70 percent? Seven out of ten criteria were perfect but the remaining three failed? I had seven great hours for every three terrible ones? Boiling down the experience of playing a game to a number is like giving someone your telephone number via the medium of interpretative dance.

jvw, do games w Recommendation engine: Downvote any game you've heard of before

Stellar Escort

Originally for the TRS-80 Model III

Cornelius_Wangenheim, do games w What games popularized certain mechanics?

The original XCOM is the source of grid based inventories.

Star Control 2 is the first RPG that did the standard dialogue interface where you talk to someone and choose from multiple replies.

ripcord,
@ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

SC2 did (or did the first mainstream) implementation of a bunch of things, but I’m surprised it was the first for this.

mryessir,

Idk, I think this game already had a grid base inventory: …wikipedia.org/…/Das_Schwarze_Auge:_Die_Nordland-…

April 1992.

Enkrod,

Man, that’s some good memories.

Yazinda, Durin, Arva von Harben, Tjalf, Melina and Caldrin, I miss you guys.

Chozo, do games w What’s a game you can 100% without hating by the end?
@Chozo@fedia.io avatar

My recommendation for this will always be Cyberpunk 2077. There are SO many secrets and sub-plots to discover in the game, and every single one of them feels like an intricate, deliberate piece to the overall puzzle that makes up Night City.

To experience everything requires multiple playthroughs, which I normally dislike in long, narrative-driven games because I lack the attention span needed when it comes to repeating things in games. But CP2077 offers so many new ways to tackle every situation, and it's one of the few games I've played where it truly feels like a new experience on the second and all subsequent playthroughs. The writing and acting are spectacular, and going back and picking different options for various encounters will yield very different, yet authentic results.

I've 100%'d it and still went back and did at least 3 full playthroughs after. I can't sing this game's praises enough.

militaryintelligence,

I’m currently playing through RDR2, should I get 2077 next?

Delphia,

A lot of people will still parrot the launch criticisms at you and refuse to acknowledge that they pretty well fixed it. The devs overpromised and underdelivered, even now its not quite what they promised. But if they had dropped what the game is now on release it would be pretty universally regarded as one of the best games of all time.

Weirdfish,

I’m glad to hear this. Bought it at launch, on PS4, which I understand had some of the worst problems. Maybe one of the most disappointing games I ever got after all the htype. Gave up after maybe two hours because of all the bugs.

I now have a PS4-Pro, and keep wondering if its finally time to give this game another go.

Delphia,

I played it on a fairly ninja pc so I cant comment on if it was absolutely fixed on consoles.

i_stole_ur_taco,

YES. It’s brilliant.

Chozo,
@Chozo@fedia.io avatar

If the world exploration and character interactions in RDR2 are scratching your itch, then 2077 will definitely have you covered there; Night City is huge and has a lot of hidden spots and characters to find. I'd say that the combat is generally a bit more hectic in 2077, but not overwhelming. You can also freely adjust the difficulty whenever you want, so if you're not interested in mastering the buildcrafting aspects (since it leans more heavily into RPG aspects than RDR2) and just wanna get the story, that's also an option.

While it's definitely not required to have an amazing experience, I'd strongly recommend also picking up the Phantom Liberty expansion if you decide to give 2077 a shot. It adds a lot of additional content, including some new endings. And Idris Elba is fucking fantastic in it. He brings a very similar energy to Keanu, where you can tell that he really loves his character and the story he gets to tell. It honestly sets a ridiculously high bar for video game acting in general.

aStonedSanta,

Fuck. I never returned it. Might as well reinstall it and dive in soon. Gotta finish up Lies of P first.

state_electrician,

The only game ever I played through four times.

mox, do games w Steam Summer Sale - Top Deals

Wildermyth is a lovely combination of storytelling and xcom-style combat, with a genealogy system and chances for your heroes (and their descendants) to reappear in future games.

Seasm0ke,

Love wildermyth

Koen967, do gaming w Best Soulslike game for beginners?

You could try “Another Crab’s treasure”. It even has accessibility options to make it easier if it’s too intimidating.

MentalEdge,
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

Ah yes.

The game that just straight up gives you a giant handgun if you simply ask.

steal_your_face,
@steal_your_face@lemmy.ml avatar

lol that’s hilarious

Domiku, (edited ) do gaming w Maybe hot take: as a handheld, the regular switch is an awful handheld

It’s definitely not as comfortable as something like the Steam Deck, but I played so much Switch while commuting on the train since it came out. It’s been a real joy to have. It’s also WAY smaller than any of the current-gen handhelds.

What do you mean by “cart games being downloaded in full to the system?”

Telorand,

I never owned a Switch, but I would say it was instrumental in the Deck’s conception. If the popularity of the Switch had never happened, I wonder if Gabe would have taken the chance.

Nintendo cuts all kinds of corners and usually doesn’t bother competing as a “performance” console, but people generally loved that thing when it first came out. I’m sure people will have gripes about Steam Deck v1 when v2+ comes out, too.

sleepybisexual,

Its not about power, its about its horrendous controls. Its like trying to game on a comically long phone

mephiska,

Get an Odin 2. It's fantastic.

sleepybisexual,

I have a retroid pocket 4 pro. Odin 2 was out of budget.

The retroid is bloody amazing. Its a better switch than the switch itself.

narc0tic_bird,

The AYANEO AIR 1S is smaller than a regular Nintendo Switch, being closer to a Switch Lite.

sleepybisexual,

And the rp4 pro

narc0tic_bird,

Sure, but the AIR 1S is an x86 device with a 7840U, so it runs regular PC games like the Deck for example.

sleepybisexual,

Yea, 2different ideas

sleepybisexual,

So, let’s take botw, about 10 GB.

If you put the cart in, it downloads, you get hose 10 GB on the system. And you’ll also need the CSRT for DRM reasons or shit

nave,
@nave@lemmy.ca avatar

It doesn’t download the game if you have a physical copy. I just checked my switch and my physical copy of botw is using 0 mb of storage.

Instigate,

Further to this - it doesn’t download cart data to the Switch/SD card, but it does store save data, update data and DLC data on the Switch/SD card. So while BOTW may not download its whole 10Gb onto the Switch, you may end up with a few Gb in other data that’s locally stored.

Domiku,

OK - I thought this was the case, but wasn’t sure. At any rate, a microSD card is a good purchase (but that’s true for all of these handhelds).

Instigate,

Yeah, I’d almost say it’s an essential purchase. I buy a fair few online titles and I’ve found my 128Gb SD to be a bit lacking. I’m considering upgrading to a 256Gb or 512Gb but they’re still too expensive at high transfer rates.

If you have to choose between capacity and transfer rate for an SD card for a Switch, go for transfer. I had an old slow card and that was abhorrent for load times and stuttering on games that were stored there.

Zarxrax, do games w Which game series had the worst anniversary celebration?

For the 25th anniversary of Super Mario Bros, Nintendo released Super Mario All Stars for the Wii. It was just an emulation of the SNES game from years before. It was released for $30 even though you could buy all of the original games on the Wii shop for like $21 total. It just reeked of “We know you’ve already bought these games like 4 times, but please buy them again”. They did do a better job on the 35th anniversary though.

hal_5700X,

They did do a better job on the 35th anniversary though.

No, they didn’t.

For the 35th anniversary, they did all this.

  • They removed Mario 3D All Stars from the eShop and stopped selling it in stores to get FOMO sales so people would care less that it was a lazy overpriced cash grab collection.
  • They removed Super Mario Bros. 35 from the eShop and shut down the servers, making it completely unplayable.
  • They removed the ability to upload levels in Super Mario Maker 1.
dinckelman,

The way how Nintendo has a complete inability to understand modern, usually online, entertainment services, is truly an achievement. Just creating an NNID for your console is already a colossal pain in the ass, but it doesn’t begin or stop there. The way how fairly modern games got their entire service lineup completely shutdown is just unacceptable

Zarxrax,

Well I mean, they also ADDED Super Mario Bros 35 to the eShop, for free. You can’t just mention the removal as if it had always been there. I agree it was shitty for them to remove it though, it was one of my all time favorite games. But I’m at least happy that I got to play it.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

You paid a subscription for it. It wasn’t free. Just like any other online game, there’s no reason it has to die.

JowlesMcGee,
@JowlesMcGee@kbin.social avatar

Is the 35th anniversary the release of 64, Sunshine, and Galaxy on the Switch? I'd say the artificial scarcity aspect to induce fomo wasn't any better. It might have even been worse.

cradac, do games w What are some good games with *zero* replayability?

Puzzlers usually fall into that category. If that’s up your alley you should try the Talos Principle.

SorteKanin,
@SorteKanin@feddit.dk avatar

My favourite game of all time, hands down.

the_post_of_tom_joad,

Why do i keep bouncing off this game? I keep hearing it’s great and then i play a bit and get bored. I don’t get far. Is there a point i need to get to where the story opens up?

SorteKanin,
@SorteKanin@feddit.dk avatar

Much like the gameplay itself, the story is another puzzle. You assemble the story from bits of emails and voice recordings that you find around the place.

There’s some reading required to appreciate it, as you find the emails and the various philosophical texts around the place. If you get bored, maybe that just isn’t for you. But I’d encourage you to give it a shot and see the story as another puzzle.

the_post_of_tom_joad,

Thanks, i didn’t know to look for the story as a puzzle as well. It might not be for me, but Ill know what to expect next time and i can give it an honest go

swordsmanluke,

If you don’t already know… the “corrupt” text in the terminals is where a lot of the semi-secret story clues are - especially in the beginning. If you want to know how to read it, lemme know and I’ll tell you what you need. Otherwise, no spoilers.

That said, the puzzles in the game are pretty consistent throughout, so if solving 3d spatial arrangements of laser beams isn’t fun for you - it’s not gonna get any better.

Aielman15,
@Aielman15@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve played it once, waited a few years until I forgot the solution to all puzzles, and then played it again.

I’ll probably replay it again a few more years from now. I love that game.

deweydecibel, do games w The Game Awards 2023: List of Winners

The true winners are of course all the marketing departments out there that are just ecstatic about the fact this stupid award shit is normalized now.

How fun to know you can brute force an award show into being “legitimate” by spending a lot of money and being cozy with studios.

NOT_RICK,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

You just described every award show ever.

I’m just glad there’s a big event that can act as a surrogate to what E3 once was.

Archer,

I suppose that was the Oscars at one point as well, but yeah this organization just appeared out of nowhere a few years ago

SnuggleSnail, do games w What moment from a video game made you cry?

“To the moon” Nice little point and click adventure. I played it through one afternoon and was sad for the following two days.

brenticus,

I’ve cried a few times in my life at games. This is the only one that had me outright sobbing.

makuus,

I’m a pretty emotional dude. I tear up at a lot of things, happy and sad. But, there are very few things in this life that have caused me to totally break down, ugly crying. The ending to “To the Moon” is one of them. Too visceral a reminder of saying goodbye to people I’ve loved very much.

CosmicApe,
@CosmicApe@kbin.social avatar

Oh yea, that one had me almost full on sobbing.

spiffmeister,

I convinced my partner to play it recently and the way I knew she’d finished it was that I could hear sniffling from the desk behind me.

Wodge,
@Wodge@lemmy.world avatar

My wife played this through one evening, I thought i’d done something wrong for the next week.

apotheotic, do gaming w When was a game's price worth it to you?

I don’t consider my gaming in terms of price/time because that just encourages buying games that suck away my time.

My value for gaming is less of a simple equation, but my examples of games that are “undoubtedly worth the price” are going to consist a lot more of shorter games that are absolutely spectacular for their shorter playtime with a £30ish price tag.

Think:

  • Outer Wilds
  • Tunic
  • Hollow Knight
  • Journey
  • The Witness
  • Portal (1&2)
  • Celeste
  • Undertale
  • To The Moon
  • Ori and the Blind Forest/Will o the Wisps
  • The Witcher 3

I have no strict criteria for this, but I can say I’ve had far, far more than my money’s worth from those games in terms of the value they brought to my life.

If you do want to look purely at the number of hours you’ll get out of a game vs its price, look no further than Guild Wars 2. You can get all the content for under £100 I beoieve, and I’ve spent 6000+ wonderful hours playing it. It’s not the same kind of enjoyment though.

donuts,
@donuts@kbin.social avatar

I don’t consider my gaming in terms of price/time because that just encourages buying games that suck away my time.

So true and well said.

I love playing a 70 hour From Software game or a 50 hour JRPG as much as the next guy. But some of my favorite games of all time are old classics like Super Mario World or Zelda: OoT, which can probably be completed in a single session or two if you know what you're doing. And there have been some truly great, but short, indie games over the years.

Then there are also sim games and arcade/fighting games that had great reliability and you can get many hours out of if you like them.

In the end, as long as the game is fun and satisfying, I don't care how long it lasts.

CleoTheWizard,

I think people don’t often factor in that time in a game is just as much or more a cost than money is.

If I make it super nerdy, my equation for games would be more like fun / (money cost + time cost). But really I don’t actively quantify these things, I just have a sense of it.

The other thing id say is that games recently are being judged more on how they respect the players time. The max game money cost is locked in at $70, likely for a long time. So the thing being optimized right now is the fun/time part. Not respecting the players time is one of the worst crimes a game can commit in my opinion.

That’s what I’m hearing about games like Starfield and it’s always been a criticism for games like assassins creed. Like they’re fun games, but the time investment is far too large for what they offer.

The reason it doesn’t apply to sim games or city builders is because you are largely in control of how best your time is spent. That’s why open world games used to rule Steam for a long time and still somewhat do.

Anyways that’s my rant.

canis_majoris, do gaming w Buggy games should be 100% allowed to be refunded.
@canis_majoris@lemmy.ca avatar

You can refund games for being buggy, you cannot however, play them for dozens of hours and then refund them. Steam’s limit is two hours and two weeks.

danque,
@danque@lemmy.world avatar

And two weeks? That must be new, I had games refunded after months but with a playtime below 2hrs.

BuboScandiacus,
@BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz avatar

Maybe it’s different in the US ?

wccrawford,

I think the “2 weeks” is the line for auto-refund, but they can and will refund you after that at their discretion. And they don’t seem to be jerks about it.

SheeEttin,

Yeah. I’ve definitely gotten refunds past those limits. But I’ve had a Steam account for like 16 years at this point, lots of games, and I’ve requested a refund maybe twice.

StarkillerX42,

Steam is known to be more generous about the rule if you have few refunds on your profile and a decent amount of purchases. Unfortunately the same can’t be said for updates, even if the update makes the game unplayable.

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