I’ve been getting better about it. Did New Vegas recently (I was told my egg would crack playing it but it didn’t. Can’t even get a refund now. Sadge.), playing Fallout 4 now. At my current rate I should have a clear backlog in… NaN
Had gay folks (Including Arcade and Veronica) that weren’t campy stereotypes, and not just the one or two companions, but a fair amount of other folks around the wasteland. You could be mechanically bisexual (which gives you bonus damage against both genders lol.) and it probably helps that you can kill oppressors (The Legion) as well. No one explicitly trans though, but the vibes are right.
This is a tough question because it's like asking "What's the most forgettable game you've ever played?" I can remember some of the best and worst games I've ever played, but mediocre games are explicitly not interesting.
That said, the first one that came to mind for me was Starshot: Space Circus Fever for N64. It's just a very generic late-'90s collectathon platformer. It's hard to be mad at it, because it's not terrible or anything, there's just no reason to play it. If you've got an N64, there's Mario, Banjo, Rayman, even B- and C-tier stuff like Gex and Chameleon Twist. There's hidden gems like Space Station Silicon Valley or Rocket: Robot on Wheels.
That last one is the only reason I played Starshot, I saw it clearanced at a used game store and was like "Oh yeah, I remember hearing this game was good," but it turned out I was thinking of Rocket. That game actually is good, while Starshot is just fine.
It also makes people say things are mid to them. Honestly, rdr2 was that way for me because I hated the pseudo-rpg elements. But long after I put it away, I started playing actual RPGs. So I may give it another shot, but I have so many on my to-do list.
Sonic Adventure 1. I love the hub worlds and how the stories of the different characters intertwine in the shared areas. And I love the variety of characters and being able to freely choose which one to advance (unlike Sonic Adventure 2…)
and off topic, but why the hell do the SA2 treasure hunting stages only do radar for the “next piece”?? SA1 has the radar active for all 3 pieces, so there’s way less back and forth
I bet it was to artificially increase the difficulty of those levels, if not, I can’t explain why. It is the single detail that makes the Knuckles/Rouge levels less enjoyable.
I didn’t know this one wasn’t well received until just now. To me it’s one of the few good 3D sonics. The plot, stage design, intersecting stories with varied play styles. All of that made it feel like playing in a full world.
That being said, I’m hit or miss on sonic in general, so maybe I like it for not being a traditional sonic game.
Oh man I loved that game as a teen but I had to give up somewhere near the end cuz I was in a sneaking section that I tried for hours but kept failing. I ended up dropping the game and just reading the story online. Up until then, it was a really fun game though.
It has literally been about 20 years since I played. I can’t say I really remember which part you’re talking about. I just remember about halfway/three-quarter into the game things get fucking weird.
I loved this one, too. Super weird story, but I was hooked. I didn’t even object to what I sort of remember as a deus ex machina kind of ending. Seemed fittingly weird for the vibe.
Mine was final fantasy 12. I played that game so hard, really enjoyed it and if was released in the time of trophies I would have platinumed it. Even did the grinding for Gilgamesh to spawn for a sword or something. But I was hated at the time.
Now everyone is saying it was one of the best and I was proved right all along.
Sure the story was star wars and the main character wasn’t, but the combat system was really fun, way better than 13.
I hated the game at first too. But I actually gave it a replay a while back and ended up loving it. Ironically, my love of FFX was holding me back from enjoying XII. Once I replayed it with a more open mind, I thoroughly enjoyed it. There are certain things I dislike about it, sure. But that’s true for any Final Fantasy game.
I think replaying it when I was older also helped. I didn’t have the patience for the politicking when I played it the first time. And the game’s story is very political. So I think the added maturity meant I was able to appreciate the story more.
Truly some of the worst FF decisions all in the same game.
Why is the key to the postgame dungeon a piece of undifferentiated loot? Why did the game allow me to accidentally lock myself out of the postgame by selling it?
Why is the story is a low effort clone of Star Wars?
Why set FF12 in the world of FF:Tactics but make no reference to it?
Why, oh why, an all-women-race of playboy bunny girls in lingerie and heels?
That being said, programming your own teams’ AI is peak jrpg wish there was more of that. This baby got thrown out with all that dirty bath water unfortunately
Interesting I don’t think I’ve seen anyone call it the best before. I loved the shit out of ff7/9/10 and was so excited for 12 and it was one of the first big gaming letdowns I can remember. Ive still had the heart to pick it back up.
I liked a lot about the original. I thought the real-time, turn-based fighting system was going to take over as the new fighting system going forward to replace the ATB as the go-to, and I was happy about it (XIII and XV would have been better for it).
The remaster raised the game to its full potential imo. Having jobs is so much better than free-for-all. And getting rid of the Zodiac Spear disqualification treasure chests is just good on my psyche.
FF12 is definitely my favorite FF. The combat system is the most interesting to me - programming your party to act how you want without spending the time of selecting combat options every single round. It’s also why I love the first Dragon Age and hated the sequels. I wish more games used that type of combat.
Most that you included aren't really associated with PC anymore though. Geralt, Doomguy, Vault boy, BJ Blazkowicz etc are very popular on consoles too. The only one I would say qualifies for real would be Gordon Freeman, since half-life is usually referred to as one of the great PC classics.
Sure, a lot of these characters have gone multiplatform. But let’s be real, they’ll always have PC in their blood.
Doomguy was fragging demons on a beige tower long before he set foot on a console. Geralt was busy crashing Windows installs before he ever picked up a PlayStation trophy. Vault Boy practically has “runs best on PC” stamped on his forehead. Console gamers might have visiting rights now, but these mascots grew up in the wild west of PC gaming, and that’s where their roots (and all the weird mods) are.
And honestly, you can play Mario games on PC too—emulation is a thing—but everyone still thinks of Mario as a Nintendo icon. Same logic applies here. PC or bust.
Define “long.” I disagree with the Doomguy proposal explicitly, because Doom appeared on the Sega 32x in November of 1994 which was barely a year after the initial PC release. One of the defining aspects of gaming in the mid '90s was the monumentally cynical gold rush of trying to cram Doom onto any damn fool console as fast as possible, in a vain attempt to capture part of the lightning and make those sales. And until the Playstation and arguably the N64, every attempt failed spectacularly in various ways.
The definitive Doom experience remaining locked to the PC for those few years was absolutely not for a lack of trying. Every greedy video game exec on the planet wanted Doom on their system. id themselves assisted with several of these ports in various ways and they had absolutely no intention of leaving Doom only on PC, either, if they could help it.
Totally fair, but let’s put “long” in context—by ’90s gaming standards, a year was practically an eternity. That’s like five TikTok trends or three failed live-service shooters today.
And sure, there were console ports flying around faster than a cacodemon on nightmare mode, but let’s be honest: nobody was lining up to play Doom on the 32X, Jaguar, or 3DO. Most people didn’t even know what a 32X was, let alone own one.
The SNES version had about as much horsepower as a Roomba with a dying battery.
Meanwhile, on PC, Doom was running smooth, loud, and proud, exactly how John Romero intended—mouse, keyboard, and all. Even the execs chasing that gold rush had to admit: the real party was on DOS. If you wanted Doom at its best, you were booting it up on a beige box, not squinting at a blurry mess on a doomed add-on.
So yeah, everyone wanted Doom, but only the PC really delivered. The ports were like decaf coffee. Sure, you can drink it, but why would you?
Sir, there’s something wrong here. I spent 20 years believing I was the only person who ever played Septerra Core, and it’s too long to change my mind now.
I still have the CD in a box somewhere. It was loaned to me by a friend and I never gave it back. Hilariously, I still see that friend, so that might make for a fun conversation.
I got the game from some magazine, in a time I didn’t have many choices for games. I didn’t speak much English yet at the time so I had trouble getting past some stuff and didn’t get very far. I even named my first dog after the robot dog in the game.
I picked it up on steam a few years ago and tried it again. I think I got much farther than I had back in the day, but still didn’t finish it. I think I might try it again on deck now.
Same, and now this is the second mention of it I’ve seen on lemmy in two weeks. I got it for like $5 in a combo pack with a terrible mech game in the bargain bin in Walmart probably 20+ years ago. Never beat it, but the vibes are top notch and I replay it every few years. Still have the disks and all.
I don’t, my favorite games have a way of leaping out of my memory or my life and latching onto my face to remind me I love them. I guess I forget the others.
Why do people still play that game? I quit after black ops 2? I think. Got MW2 with my ps5 played a few times and the game is just so far from the game I loved 15-20 years ago. Why do so many people complain so hard about it and keep playing? I bought the outer worlds and assassin’s Creed Ragnarok recently for less than some call of duty skins lol. Just stop playing. I’m sorry but I don’t understand the mindset of complaining about the black eyes you get when you punch yourself.
Oh, don’t get me wrong. I actually like the game, otherwise I would be playing something else. I just dislike the way the community has dragged it into a dumb direction because of the devs actively choosing to put Shipment on every game since MW2019. Most players now literally have an aneurysm if they don’t fight someone within 5 seconds of spawning.
The original shipment was awesome because it was a change of pace of the bigger, more guided maps. Same with Nuketown. However, at some point in there, literally every map just became some minor variation of those chaotic maps. The only difference between TDM and free for all was half the time shooting someone did nothing.
The old games you could actually be able to just be good, follow a plan and clear the path. Anymore, they made the maps so chaotic that you couldn’t possibly clear your way because the second you finished checking one path, you move on to the next and get shot by some asshole coming from the place you just checked.
I played a few after that at my buddy’s house, but I had quit buying them. By the time advanced warfare came out, I wouldn’t even play it there anymore. It just ceased being fun even while drunk. Then I played MW2 because it came free with the PS5 because why not? The original was one of my favorite games of all time! I played through the campaign and that was fun, but multiplayer had somehow gotten even worse! And don’t get me started on the battle Royale bullshit. You could say that maybe I just got old, but I watched the decline in real time, in the prime of my life. Hell, even as late as ghosts, I was still averaging over a 2.6 k/d. In the MW2 remake, it was closer to 1.1! Wtf?!? And I just can’t get behind a military game that adds in goofy ass skins. I’m even kinda ok with reasonable micro transactions for cool gear. Reasonable being like $.99-$2.99 like gran Turismo. I totally respect that. But $20 for a skin?!? GTFO. And making the game a joke in the process? Ugh. See? This is why I don’t play that shit anymore. It raises my blood pressure lol.
I just stopped playing PvP games in general and I’m quickly giving up on co-op with randoms. All that shit is too toxic. FFXIV has been a bastion of good community vibes, and recently, to my surprise, Night Reign, but probably only because there isn’t voice chat.
depends on your time zone, it most of the world it comes out wednesday (aka, as i write this, tomorrow where i am, or even today if you live east of the atlantic!)
(the switch 2 version comes out at 00:00 on thursday no matter the time zone tho)
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