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Mannivu, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of May 5th

I bought Stardew Valley last Wednesday. There’s so much more than I expected. I thought this was like a farming simulator with pixel art. Boi I was wrong.

EstrangedMoistness,

It can very quickly turn into Spreadsheets Valley :)

DmMacniel,

So you are the developer of neofetch then? Just kidding of course, but the developer archived neofetch’s GitHub repository with the comment:

picked up farming.

If you want more of Stardew Valley look into modding, especially Stardew Valley Extended. It adds tons of content to it.

MidnightCharcuterie,

I think finding all the hidden depth of it is definitely the best part! I’m playing Stardew at the moment as well. This is my second long playthrough and I’m befriending villagers I neglected last time and it’s been great.

monoboy, do gaming w Dpad vs analog stick

Depends on the game

A good example is the Ori games compared to Hollow Knight. Ori moves at a different speed depending how much you push the thumb stick so it feels more precise to use them. In Hollow Knight you move the same speed with the thumb stick no matter how little it is pressed so the d-pad feels better.

DmMacniel, do gaming w Dpad vs analog stick

Depends on the game really. If there is a need for fine precision be it movement, pointing or aiming an analog Stick can’t be beat (the latter even enhanced by gyro) if its a 2D game its gotta be a dpad.

Empricorn, (edited )

I misread that as “enhanced by Spyro”. And yeah, most things are…

DmMacniel,

True everything would be better with that little dragon.

GrayBackgroundMusic, do gaming w Why do mobile games suck nowadays?

Nowadays? I’ve never enjoyed mobile gaming. Every time I try, there’s been an absurd paywall or monetization. Once that strikes, I’m out.

NegativeLookBehind, do games w Sprocket: Tank Design is such a fun game!
@NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world avatar

Very cool. Can you drive and fight with them as well?

saltnotsugar,

Yup! You can make custom camos, custom decals, place crew members (in beta version), and fight in custom battles or missions. Some communities even have fun competitions.

NegativeLookBehind,
@NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world avatar

fuck yes

ReallyActuallyFrankenstein, do gaming w Maybe hot take: as a handheld, the regular switch is an awful handheld

Yes, I didn’t and still don’t understand why they didn’t make the joycon buttons and “d-pad” more comfortable. It’s Nintendo’s least comfortable controller and it’s the biggest reason I hate using the Switch portable mode.

Everyone’s saying it’s old here - the Game Boy was more comfortable to hold and had better buttons. It’s not about age.

sleepybisexual,

The 3ds has a good dpad too. Has Nintendo forgotten how dpads work

perishthethought, do gaming w What is your favourite game console?

The challenge with this question is that not everyone has played in every console, so like, for me, I can only comment on the Atari 2600, the Wii and the XBOX 360.

From that small sample, the wii wins hands down. I loved the motion controllers a lot.

sleepybisexual,

Never played Wii but it always looked cool to me :3

perishthethought,

I think because it was so different from what came right before it: Gamecube, PS3, Xbox.

Waving that Wiimote around was a blast for everyone, gamers and non-gamers alike. Tons of hours of play in this Sports Resort, for instance.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWo6zYZx2rM

I get what @berttheduck said about long games / serious gamers but can you imagine your grandma trying to play most Switch or PS5 or other new console games now?

Berttheduck,

The Wii brought gaming to the general public in a way nothing else had. Like most modern Nintendo consoles it was under powered and gimmicky but the gimmick worked so well for people new to gaming, point at the TV or wiggle the controller as you would to do the thing in real life was a huge step to making an abstract concept make sense to people. For longer gaming sessions or more “serious” games the Wii controls were generally lacking but damn if Wii sports wasn’t good fun.

thingsiplay, do gaming w Mariokart 8 Sucks.

What do you mean its not polished? Any example to what you mean by that?

comicallycluttered, do gaming w Why are there two different genres both called ARPG?

It’s the same with “hack and slash”. Originally also referred to games like Diablo, but now we all use it to refer to stuff like DMC, pre-2018 God of War, Bayonetta, etc.

exocrinous,

Why isn’t 2018 GOW hack and slash?

Don_alForno,

Because you don’t wade through hordes and hordes of individually weak enemies. (There are many but compare it to Diablo.)

exocrinous,

That’s what hack and slash means? I thought it was a game where you hack and slash

fushuan,

Hack and slash through hordes of enemies, it’s kindnof the point of the game.

Stillhart,

Because it’s a souls-like

exocrinous,

But it’s not hard.

MentalEdge, do gaming w Heroes 3 appreciation post
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jordanlund, do games w The Sega Dreamcast
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

Sega was a victim of the Dreamcasts success. They lost money on every console sold, didn’t make it back on the software, and spent too much money on things like Shen Mue.

MrVilliam,

This is a pretty solid summary. Part of why they didn’t make their money back on software was because of how easy it was to copy and share. It didn’t help that they had alienated so many 3rd party devs by prematurely abandoning platforms so many times. They stuck with the Genesis for a long time, trickled out 32X and CD add-ons and only put out a handful of games for those, released and immediately ditched the Saturn, and then didn’t go as all in on the Dreamcast as they probably should’ve. At least they knew to cancel the Neptune, which was just gonna be a standalone 32X.

They should’ve not done the CD and 32X and instead dumped those resources into getting the Saturn out like a year earlier. Then they could’ve taken their time building that library, and then go all in on the Dreamcast, bringing lots of 3rd party support that happily made money off of betting on the Saturn. But hindsight is 20/20.

jordanlund,
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People tend to lump in the Sega CD with the failed systems, but it was actually the most successful console add on ever, supporting over 200 games.

This was part of the problem with the 32X. Sega USA ran with the CD and turned it into a success when Sega Japan didn’t want it. When Japan was prepping for Saturn, US demanded the 32X and when Japan said “no”, US said “yeah, well, look at Sega CD, what do you know?” Sega USA arrogance willed the 32X into existance and, well, you know the rest.

Guitar Hero sold more, but how many games USE the guitar? 4? 5?

otp,

I guess that goes to show how “Most Successful Console Add-on Ever” isn’t that prestigious of a title! Haha

MrVilliam,

The CD and 32X were effectively just life support to keep the Genesis alive while Nintendo put out a whole new generation of console. Sega could’ve leapfrogged Nintendo’s SNES if their follow-up to the 16-bit cartridge based Genesis and competitor to the 16-bit cartridge based SNES had been the 32-bit disc based Saturn, but in 1993 instead of 1994-95. “Nintendo just caught up to what we’re leaving behind.” Video game history would be incredibly different. Nintendo would’ve maybe lost a significant amount of market share to Sega. Sony might’ve stayed out of it or at least would’ve had real disc competition. Sega might’ve stayed in the hardware game, which maybe would’ve kept Microsoft from entering since there’s no vacuum to fill. This might’ve affected PC gaming too since devs could basically double dip their work to put out very similar games on both PC and Xbox.

Sega CD was successful in that it kept Sega players from jumping over to buying a SNES. Idk how that worked though because an entire SNES was cheaper than the Sega CD add-on. They could only sell games to people who had already bought a Genesis AND shelled out a SNES and a half worth to keep it relevant. If you didn’t own a Genesis or a SNES and you’re at Circuit City or whatever looking at them, it’s kinda hard to not choose the SNES. Genesis was $150 while the SNES was $200, sure, but the SNES was new and polished while the Genesis was already 2 years old AND they felt the need to release a $300 add-on to keep up with the SNES. So if you’re trying to get your money’s worth, you could either spend $300 on a SNES and a couple of games, or you could spend about the same for an older console and maybe one or two extra games, or you could dump $450 (equivalent to $1,019 in 2024) and still not have any games. So how in the fuck did the Sega CD succeed? Sega was just really good at marketing, I guess.

IWantToFuckSpez,

They dug their own grave with the 32x and Saturn. The Dreamcast was the final blow.

jordanlund,
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The 32X was a disaster and it was bred from a conflict between Sega USA and Sega Japan.

In the US, the Sega CD had been a HIT. Japan wanted to drop it, US said “we’ll take it!” and it ended up being the #1 peripheral with more games for it than any other console add on ever. Over 200 games.

So when Sega Japan wanted to get the Saturn rolling, Sega US demanded a stop gap between the Genesis and Saturn. Japan resisted, and US went “Yeah, well look at Sega CD, what do you know?” and went with the 32X.

From the start, Japan wasn’t interested, did everything to ignore the product and effectively killed it.

In retaliation, US chose to launch Saturn several months too early. I think they knew going head to head with the Playstation was a death sentence, so they dropped it 5 months early to “select retailers”.

This had 2 problems:

  1. The games were janky and not ready. The first version of Virtua Fighter was so bad they had to later issue a re-mix version for free.

youtu.be/ubJSL5GhSZU

  1. The “non-select” retailers were pissed to be cut out of the early launch. So when the wide release happened in the fall, they leaned in more to support the Playstation than the Saturn.
ampersandrew, do games w Is there a sort of collection/discussion of the stopkillinggames.com campaign?
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

I just filled out my report to the DGCCRF, and I hope it’s even more damning, amidst my claims of forced obsolescence, that the game was removed from my account in the past week with a message telling me to check the store for new games to buy.

theorangeninja,

Maybe they removed it from the accounts because of the recent push from modders to patch an offline mode.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

Between that and the stop killing games campaign, the timing is no coincidence. Either way, they’re up to no good.

treechicken, do games w Legend of Zelda
@treechicken@lemmy.world avatar

I really liked Spirit Tracks.

Train gameplay was actually enjoyable for me (especially the way it got used in one of the end game fights was so cool). It was also nice that Zelda was an actual part of the game and helped solve puzzles instead of some princess locked away in a castle.

I played Phantom Hourglass much later and Spirit Tracks honestly just felt much more polished and fun.

MrDrProfJimmy,

I preferred the ship of Phantom Hourglass more to the train but I agree that Spirit Tracks felt much more polished and fun.

Except that last flute challenge which can fuck off

treechicken,
@treechicken@lemmy.world avatar

Oh jeez I completely forgot about the pan flute. I’m pretty sure my DS mic was broken so those were all torture :,(

Khanzarate,

I really think that everyone really had trouble with the DS microphone rather than the flute challenge itself. It came pretty easily to me but I doubt I’m a particularly expert mic blower, so I can only think my mic was a fully functioning one and people like you got a much harder challenge.

DharkStare, do games w Legend of Zelda

Majora’s Mask is the best Zelda game. However, Wind Waker is my favorite Zelda game. The setting, art style, and musical score all combined perfectly to make a game that was both really fun and relaxing. No Zelda game since has ever matched the feeling of sailing to the Great Sea soundtrack.

Zikeji, do astronomy w After 30 years, I'm finally going to see a total solar eclipse. Also, Potato World is a thing.
@Zikeji@programming.dev avatar

I happened to be able to see the 2017 one and it was so impactful I saved the date and made sure I’d make it happen. Cut forward 7 years and here I am with most of my immediate family (I have 6 siblings so having most is impressive).

It is an experience that can’t be captured by any form of digital or physical media and my only way to describe it is - it’s the closest thing to magic I’ve ever experienced.

I plan on saving up and going overseas for one as well.

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