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SoupBrick, do games w I'm tired of every game being live service

Live service justifies microtransactions.

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Buttflapper,

Wow, just read that… It’s so true. Look at games like Hoyo’s Honkai, Genshin, Zenless… So much gambling. It’s obscene…

yamanii,
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Zenless doesn’t even have multiplayer yet, it’s basically a single player game with updates, the only interaction is chatting with someone after adding their id to your friend list.

Prox, do games w I'm tired of every game being live service

We’re all sick of live service games, and that’s why new (copycat) games are failing so hard. Look at XDefinant, Concord, etc.

Plenty of people have one or two live service games that they like/play, and the sustained success of those titles like Fortnite, Destiny, Apex Legends, Diablo IV is why we keep seeing so many clones and attempts to hit the next gold vein. But the creators of those copycat titles fail to capture the real source of others’ success; great gameplay.

yamanii,
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Diablo IV is proof that a strong nostalgia brand is more powerful than a good game like Path of Exile, game spent the first year just fixing itself like everyone bought an alpha access.

ampersandrew, do games w What happened to the turn based RPG and RTS genres?
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The unanimous game of the year last year is a turn-based RPG, and I can promise you Metaphor: ReFantazio this year will do well critically and commercially, just like Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth did earlier this year. There are plenty of turn-based RPGs to go around. If you meant turn-based tactics or strategy, same thing; plenty of those to go around as well.

RTS sort of peaked with StarCraft II, at least in terms of popularity, but you find some here and there. Battle Aces and Stormgate are both from ex-Blizzard devs chasing that high, and both are live service, so those two will soon be dead, but there are others out there that are less popular that come out from time to time.

TotesIllegit,

For C&C fans, Tempest Rising is C&C in all but name. The most recent playtest felt like a hybrid of Tiberian Sun and Tiberium Wars. It’s not out yet, but I’m very excited about it.

Object,

Battle Aces and Stormgate are both from ex-Blizzard devs chasing that high, and both are live service, so those two will soon be dead

The curse 🥲

ampersandrew, do games w 2024 is about 75% done. Let's recommend the best games of 2024, but with a twist: only the ones with no paid DLC!
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

Dread Delusion (Steam)

This a first person RPG in the style of the PS1 with Elder Scrolls influences worn on its sleeves. This isn’t so much about the RPG parts of the game as it is about the exploration aspect, which isn’t usually my jam, but it worked really well for me here. Despite having tons more draw distance than 5th gen consoles, it is of a similar scope and scale of games of that era, with a lot of the positives from back then that I tend to forget about. A lot of people complain about yellow paint in modern games, and this is the antithesis of that: everything worth exploring is visible from miles away, and there’s a lot of it, with no fluff to make it visually confusing.

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Omegamanthethird, (edited ) do games w What letter has the best games?
@Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world avatar

F

Final Fantasy series

Fable series

Fallout series

Farcry series

Fortnite

Fall Guys

Five Nights at Freddy’s series

F.E.A.R. series

FIFA series

Forza series

FTL

Edit:

Factorio

Flight Simulator

Ouchie1,

Factorio

Omegamanthethird,
@Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world avatar

Good call! I can’t believe I forgot that one!

gregor,
@gregor@gregtech.eu avatar

Fortnite?? Fall guys???

Omegamanthethird,
@Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world avatar

I included Fall Guys because I liked it. I included Fortnite because it’s one of the most popular games ever made. It would be weird not to include it.

gregor,
@gregor@gregtech.eu avatar

Understandable

crusty,

Have a nice day

officermike,

Flight Simulator

Omegamanthethird,
@Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world avatar

Another good one. I’ll include it.

Kolanaki, (edited ) do games w What letter has the best games?
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Definitly the D.

  • Doom.
  • Dune 2.
  • Disco Elysium.
  • Dark Souls 1, 2 and 3 as well as Demon Souls.
  • Dwarf Fortress.
  • Dark Messiah.
  • Diablo 1 and 2
  • Day of Defeat
  • Dead Space
  • Death Stranding.
  • Deep Rock Galactic.
  • Deus Ex.
  • Dying Light

And that’s just what I have in my Steam library ('cept Demon Souls obviously). There’s so many more D games that are also great.

4am,

Darkest Dungeon

JimmyMcGill,

DotA and Dota 2

Also dune 2?

Kolanaki,
!deleted6508 avatar

Also dune 2?

It’s what all modern day RTS games derive from.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dune_II

southsamurai, do games w What do you think about random encounters?
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I’m in the “if I can’t avoid them, I’m not playing the game long” camp.

I don’t hate them, and they can be fun. But most of the games that do them make them impossible to bypass. Like others have already said, when you’re questing, they just derail the gameplay experience. There’s times that’s okay, but if a game has them often enough, it ends up making me hate the game and quit.

It’s why I don’t go back an replay the final fantasy stuff.

merthyr1831, do games w Gacha games are out of control. Gambling shouldn't be so widespread

We had to convince my brother in law (13yo) to not spend his birthday money of £85 on Genshin impact skins. Kids are fucked by advertising man

Buttflapper,

Report that shit to the EU or your government. At least in Europe they care…

merthyr1831,

China has announced a ban on Gacha game mechanics (and lootboxes, predatory discounts, and gambling) which should hopefully ripple out to Europe and the US soon.

A lot of these mechanics were adapted from the Chinese gaming market and I think the same will likely happen in the reverse.

BruceTwarzen,

I’m no stranger to people paying for skins and all, but when i first heard that kids want vbucks as a Christmas gift my stomach kinda turned.

UnderpantsWeevil,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

It’s the same formula in damned near every game now. Pay2Win has made even the most chill JRPG a wall of ads and notifications to spend more money.

ILikePigeons,
@ILikePigeons@lemmy.ml avatar

Same, World of Tanks is the first game that comes to my mind when people mention pay2win mechanics. I am quite happy that I don’t play that game anymore.

chloyster, do gaming w I have been getting into emulation (discussion)

Talk of emulation is definitely allowed but might be for the best to not link places to get roms. Just out of an abundance of caution

Gamers_mate,

True I would not recommend linking romsites here. Though I do find using k3b to extract roms off of phyisical discs I own to be useful when trying to emulate them.

jordanlund, do games w Why Do People Still Play Destiny 2?
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

I dropped it like it was hot when they cut out 1/2 the content I paid for. I might come back if they bring it back.

scrubbles,
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Nope, even then they burned me, I think Bungie is officially dead as I used to know it.

jordanlund,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

Pretty much how I feel. Removing content disrespected the money I spent on the game, sunsetting gear disredpected the time I spent in game.

Though they DID reverse the sunsetting decision after everyone told them it was an awful idea.

vikingtons, (edited )
@vikingtons@lemmy.world avatar

And they didn’t retroactively unlock impacted gear. I had a couple god rolled blast furnaces relgated to casual PvP despite the absurd amount of time I had to put into that bullshit forge activity.

Anyone else notice the extent of bungies creativity as far as destiny is concerned:

  • Stand on plates
  • Shoot targets
  • 3 damage phases
  • Juggle balls
jordanlund,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

Goes for Raid design too…

Take a group of 6, split into three groups of two.

A, B, and C.

A go to the right, B go to the left, C stay in the center.

Do the thing, then rotate, A to B, B to C, C to A.

Do it again. Rotate again. Do it again. Rotate again.

Damage phase. Repeat until someone screws up and you all die or boss is dead.

vikingtons,
@vikingtons@lemmy.world avatar

It’s funny is how gorgeous the endgame content looks. Sure it plays out very much in the same way, but it’s kinda crazy how hard they go in visuals on parts of the game that very few players can reach. I’m not opposed to this in principle, mind you.

But yeah the raids and dungeons didn’t really grip me in the end. Pretty as they are, there’s a lot of arbitrary systems at play which kill my engagement.

scrubbles,
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To have it in the first place though while the game is still active, horrid idea in the first place.

edgemaster72, do games w "Concord servers are now offline. Thank you to all the freegunners who have joined us in the Concord galaxy"
@edgemaster72@lemmy.world avatar

Holy hell that was quick from the announcement to shut down. Did they have a 2 week free trial on the servers so they had to get out today?

JoMiran, do games w "Concord servers are now offline. Thank you to all the freegunners who have joined us in the Concord galaxy"
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

Lawbreakers was an excellent game that was killed by executive stupidity.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

I thought it was killed by having stupid design around game objectives and not letting you tweak those rules yourself.

JoMiran,
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Don’t forget the fact that is was a free-to-play game with a $30 price-tag.

houseofkeb,

That’s what killed it for me. I really enjoyed the Lawbreakers beta, but paying $30 for a game that would either die at a fixed price or quickly shift to F2P made no sense.

helenslunch,
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How does a f2p game cost $30?

JoMiran,
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

Executive said, “Fuck it, we’re charging $30”. He thought people would pay that even though its main competitors were f2p.

helenslunch,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

So it’s not f2p then?

JoMiran,
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

Ultimately, no. It was going to be at first but prior to release, it changed models and ultimately stayed at $30 until it died.

helenslunch,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

You know what f2p means to me? It means you can play the game for free but the experience is guaranteed to be miserable because you’re going to have relentless ads crammed down your throat for skins and other bullshit I couldn’t give a single fuck about, and no matter how much you pay it never stops.

So if it’s between that and just paying $30 for the game, I’ll take the $30 every time. I avoid f2p games like the plague.

JoMiran,
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

I agree with you. The market didn’t.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

Free to play games have to reach a much larger audience to break even, so chances are it was just as doomed if it was free.

altima_neo,
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

Yeah, but the barrier to entry is much lower when the games are free.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

Chances are it wasn’t the barrier to entry that did that game in, is my point.

helenslunch,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

Your previous statements seem to indicate otherwise:

Lawbreakers was an excellent game that was killed by executive stupidity.

yamanii,
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It was originally advertised as f2p, at some point they changed their minds and decided to charge for it, clearly it didn’t go well since people already associated it with free.

StrandedInTimeFall, do games w Is Elder Scrolls 6 doomed to fail? I can't see how it will work

I just don’t think Bethesda has it in them anymore. Except for Id and formerly Tango Gameworks, Bethesda proper and a lot of the other studios it had, have just been missing the mark. Like a lot of big studios, they get big, start to regurgitate what they’ve already done, and then fail to capture people’s attention after a while.

Why do you think Valve’s employees haven’t pushed for many new games? Anticipation got too high and they didn’t want to compete with the legacy of Half-life or Portal. Half-life Alyx came out and it was decent, but it didn’t move the story forward that much. It was mostly about doing a good VR game. Now, they have Deadlock coming out and it has nothing to do with any of it’s previous games.

At a certain point, it’s like reading a book from an author that’s run out of ideas or hearing a song from an artist that doesn’t have anything relevant to say anymore. It’s time to move on and make room for someone wants to do something new. Only problem, these big ass companies are now mostly about making money and not about making games. They will ride whatever wave they can until they crash and burn.

Theme,

Reading a book from an author that’s run out of ideas

Good thing Gurm still has loads of great ideas, Winds of Winter will be incredible, and I’m sure it’s coming any day now!

tuckerm, do games w Astro Bot | Review Thread (95 OpenCritic)

I can't imagine this one getting a PC release, so I'll probably never play it, but I do love seeing a good 3D platformer being released. And a console mascot 3D platformer? Feels like we're in an earlier console generation here.

HeyJoe,

The free one bundled with PS5’s was incredible. It was short and to the point. Fast-paced and full of a variety of beautiful environments. Not overwhelming with any extra content or tons of moves. There are tons of fun easter eggs while also showing you the entire history of every Sony product that ever existed. From the looks of it, this will just expand upon that which is perfect. It was a glorified demo that showed off every new feature the controller had.

helloharu,
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I don’t know what support for the DualSense is like on PC but the game seems to rely on gyro and haptic triggers for some features. I’ve only played the first few levels but I image the rest of them being this way too. For the controls alone I’d say it makes it less likely to be on PC (but they managed it with Returnal so who knows).

Tahl_eN, do games w Any good games that break the mold

Chants of Sennaar - adventure/puzzle game where you need to learn the languages of the world. It’s not super difficult, but finding all the secrets was challenging.

Manifold Garden - no real story here, but a trippy 3d spatial puzzle to navigate.

Sensationalglyph,

Was waiting for Senaar

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