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anakin78z, do games w What are some great games that require you to bust out a notebook and pen?
@anakin78z@lemmy.world avatar

Hah, I actually just busted out pen and paper for Dragon Age Veilguard, although it was to compare companion stats, and nothing to do with the story.

lorty, do pcgaming w Budget gaming: steam deck or build a cheap gaming PC?
@lorty@lemmygrad.ml avatar

The Steam deck is cool and I love mine but it can’t be upgraded other than the storage. There already are new games that run poorly, and sometimes because of linux, rather than hardware. So maybe getting one while saving up for a pc might be your best bet, specially if you are still looking at building a steam library.

slazer2au, do games w What are some great games that require you to bust out a notebook and pen?

Morrowind, Factorio and Stardew Valley

apotheotic, do pcgaming w Budget gaming: steam deck or build a cheap gaming PC?

A steam deck is my recommendation. I have a £2000+ gaming PC that is now practically collecting dust because of my steam deck. Being able to just game anywhere in my house, from my bed, from my couch, from a chair in a sunny spot in my garden, has been a game changer in a way I didn’t expect. I’ve owned handheld consoles before but none of them have hooked me in the same way.

The fact that I have my entire backlog of PC games available to me and don’t have to buy into a new ecosystem (like the switch or previous handhelds) is a huge bonus, but the absolute winner here is the variety of input options and the degree of customizability, as well as the fact that its a PC, so I can fuck with the refresh rate and the clock speeds and all that - extending the battery life!

The portability also has me being a bit more social with the other occupants in my home. I can play some low-focus game on the couch while they watch TV, for example, and we can chat and so on, as opposed to being isolated to the room where my PC is.

If you think there’s any chance you’ll get a kick out of being able to just grab your deck and go loaf somewhere comfortable to game, its a no-brainer to me.

LovableSidekick, do games w What are some great games that require you to bust out a notebook and pen?

In-person tabletop RPGs. My group have been playing 1st Edition AD&D and a compact, modernized version of D&D Basic/Expert called Old School Essentials.

silverchase, do games w What are some great games that require you to bust out a notebook and pen?
@silverchase@sh.itjust.works avatar

Her Story is a detective game that starts with you sitting at a computer, not even knowing what mystery you’re supposed to investigate. You have to search through the computer’s database for police interview footage to figure that out. Then you have to figure out the answer to the mystery you think you need to solve. The interview clips have a lot of details for you to track and link together. I had to make a big chunky note for this game and even had to implement a system to keep track of the likelihood of the statements.

If you want more point and click adventures, try the Submachine series, which was originally in Flash but now remastered as a ten-game compilation called Submachine: Legacy. The developer trained as an architect, so you get to admire intricate, hand-drawn architecture porn. It starts off as a typical 00s Flash room escape, until you realize it was all a… hallucination. You realize that you’re actually going to explore a vast, utterly lonely underground world as you try to track down the only person who seems to know how to get out. Teleportation and parallel universe travel come up a lot in the series, so keeping notes will be useful. Incredible dark ambient soundtrack, too.

Nikls94,

It reads like it would be a game similar to “A normal lost phone” and "another lost phone“ - two of the best phone puzzle games I‘ve played.

I might give Her Story a try

silverchase,
@silverchase@sh.itjust.works avatar

I’m not familiar with the games you mentioned, so I went to check them out. And look what we have on the Steam store page!

Reviews

“It shares some of the feeling of Her Story, albeit featuring today’s technology and with less of a focus on the crime angle. But it has the same small moments of revelation, all of which come together to form a story in its own neat yet meandering way.” Rock Paper Shotgun

Guess that means you have to play it now.

Nikls94,

Currently on sale on GOG for € 0.89 - got it

www.gog.com/en/game/her_story

theit8514, do games w What are some great games that require you to bust out a notebook and pen?

Rhem is a myst-like which will probably require multiple journals.

anamethatisnt, do pcgaming w Budget gaming: steam deck or build a cheap gaming PC?

Even when trying to limit myself a Ryzen 5 7600, RX 7600 build with 1tb m.2 storage and 16gb ram, a non modular bronze 750w psu and a cheap case ends up outside your budget. (about $950 to buy over here). You could lower that by going for older AM4 components but then you lose most of the upgradability benefits.
Personally I would save more before buying and increase the budget. You mention having a decent laptop, so use that one for some indie gaming while saving up.

catloaf, do games w What are some great games that require you to bust out a notebook and pen?

Myst was my answer even before reading your post, so I would say the rest of the series. Also Quern, in the same genre. Maybe The Talos Principle if you like puzzles, though I don’t remember reaching for my notepad while playing.

agamemnonymous,
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Exile was pretty good, minus the pixel hunting on the forest level, but I’d say overall quality dropped off pretty quickly after that.

taiyang, do pcgaming w Budget gaming: steam deck or build a cheap gaming PC?

Interesting, I was just discussing this for my teenage cousin - we ultimately went with Deck but only because he needs to travel back to Germany.

I think your use case is different. Yes, the deck can play docked but much it is magic happens because the resolution is so tiny. Not saying you’ll be able to manage a great GPU, but you’ll likely get a little more out of a budget card at a standard 1080p. Also, with a budget PC, you can always upgrade parts if you’re strategic on parts like PSU.

As for building a library, you can always sail the high seas-- although there are so many budget friendly entertainment in the PC realm. Just refer to IsThereAnyDeal to ensure you’re getting the most bang for your buck.

proceduralnightshade, do pcgaming w Budget gaming: steam deck or build a cheap gaming PC?

Yes, a Steam Deck is a viable alternative to a budget gaming PC. But if you would want to buy a dock and peripherals and keep it docked most of the time I’d say go with the PC.

For me personally, the biggest plus of a Steam Deck was that I didn’t have to get peripherals (because my living situation is a bit complicated at the moment). And they’re dirt cheap, got a used LCD512 GB one for 320€.

edit: I own a laptop too. If I didn’t, I would’ve gotten a new one

Bathilda_Bagshot, do games w What are some great games that require you to bust out a notebook and pen?
charade_you_are,

First and only game I was able to think of. Good stuff

chunkystyles, do pcgaming w Budget gaming: steam deck or build a cheap gaming PC?

I’m going to give you a slightly different take than what I’ve seen so far. I have a Deck and a PC. I game mostly on the PC, but I love the Deck.

The 256gb LCD model is $400. You can buy that, save whatever is leftover, and save up for a nicer PC build down the line. The Deck will be great for you while you save.

Like people said, you might not be playing the newest AAA games, but those are expensive anyway. There are thousands of indie and older games that will run amazingly and will be cheap that you wouldn’t have had access to on the Xbox.

Cris_Color, do pcgaming w Budget gaming: steam deck or build a cheap gaming PC?
@Cris_Color@lemmy.world avatar

Personally my inclination would be building a PC. There are just too many small things here that make a PC seem a better fit in my mind

A PC can be upgraded over time. A PC can run Windows, and from what I understand there’s still some willingness to tinker and adjust stuff needed to get stuff working on steamdeck at times (I say this as an exclusively linux user for the past like 10 years, though I don’t have a steam deck and haven’t played with gaming on Linux). And ultimately the main selling point of the deck sounds like it would be pretty secondary for you

I’d love to tell you go with the cheaper option, but I think long term the PC just makes more sense. Even if you just wanna run linux and use a distro that replicates the steam deck’s configuration and setup, the PC will trade the portability you don’t seem particularly interested in for upgradability that I think is really worth it. If you’re looking to save money my gut says you’d be better served by getting used components, a used case, and a good power supply you can upgrade around.

Thats my 2c as someone fairly unqualified to give advice lol. Regardless, I hope you find the right path for you!

But I think the big consideration is whether to trade portability for upgradability, or vice versa.

BarrelAgedBoredom,

Outside of windows, you’ve essentially described my radionale for building a PC. I was planning to build a Linux machine to 1. Save on not having to buy windows and 2. Simply because I like Linux, and (besides competitive games) gaming on Linux seems to be a pretty solid option nowadays. I wanted to buy second hand as much as I could and upgrade piecemeal to keep up with hardware demands and improve my experience.

The convenience of the steam deck is attractive because I’ve never built a machine before and graphics aren’t all that important to me. But I do like the prospect of having something that will last and be able to be iteratively improved for years to come

Cris_Color,
@Cris_Color@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, that makes sense. If you have a friend that’s built a PC before that’d help a lot with it being intimidating. I think building a PC and picking used last gen parts that roughly match the performance of the deck would be my choice in your position.

I can absolutely understand it being appealing to buy something complete out of the box though. Maybe it’s worth seeing if anyone is selling complete working PCs they’re ready to replace?

Azzu,

Isn’t the PC the cheaper option? You act as if the only benefit you get is the upgradeability, but since a desktop doesn’t have to be as small, the components are much cheaper individually, which makes a PC cheaper than a Steam Deck simply looking at performance.

It’s not a necessity to upgrade the PC, and if you never upgrade it, then it also never costs more than the Steam Deck.

In essence upgradeability should be almost not a decision factor, since you probably can “upgrade” the Steam Deck in the future as well: you buy a new Steam Deck handheld once Steam releases a more powerful version. Yeah, you’re not swapping out components, but there’ll very likely be a way to copy over your setup/data, and then the only difference is that the upgrade is more expensive, same as the initial purchase is right now.

Cris_Color,
@Cris_Color@lemmy.world avatar

Price to performance and just outright price aren’t really the same thing. And isn’t a base deck like $300? I could be wrong, I sort of assumed building a PC and buying your peripherals was more expensive 🤷‍♂️. I mentioned to OP it might be a lot more comparable if you just aim for roughly the same specs as the deck using used last-gen parts, since super impressive specs didn’t seem important to them.

And yes, I just mean that it’s cheaper to replace just one component when you need to than buy the whole thing over again. Its also way less e-waste. To me, upgrading not being necessary seems like a very odd point to make- if you never upgrade at a certain you won’t be able to play anything newer. Which maybe doesn’t matter to op, but that seems like an odd assumption to make. Even if you just use a computer for less demanding productivity tasks, its specs will eventually start to struggle…

It just seems like most of the benefits of the deck seem like things that either aren’t as important to them (handheld functionality) or are short term benefits (no need to build anything, potentially cheaper upfront), where the PC seems like it makes more sense longer term, given they don’t especially care about having a handheld specially.

NegativeLookBehind, do games w What are some great games that require you to bust out a notebook and pen?
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I sketch out factory designs for Satisfactory

scrubbles,
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Same my friend, same. I’m starting my new factory on Friday and I’m getting ready for the math.

Btw if you’re not already, we’re here at !satisfactory

Modern_medicine_isnt,

I wasn’t already, but I am now.

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