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Soulg, do gaming w Whine harder you assholes

I dunno, most games the sexuality of the protagonist is completely irrelevant, and in those cases id tell both sides to stop whining or just play a different game

Smoogs,

This is a case of double standards.

If you weren’t willing to call it out before when it was heavily one sided, you shouldn’t be calling it out now.

You’re making it relevant by calling it out at the worst possible time.

Buddahriffic,

I’m not seeing the double standard there. Their overall stance sounds like they don’t gaf about anyone complaining about the sexuality of characters in video games because it’s often completely irrelevant to the game itself.

Or did I misunderstand and you mean that since they didn’t call out people complaining about a lack of gay representation they shouldn’t call out everyone complaining now that the complaints go both ways?

UnderpantsWeevil,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

I’m not seeing the double standard there.

If you sleep through all the romantic subplots of the last 40 years of RPGs, but you wake up offended when you discover that Ellie and Riley Kiss at the end of The Last of Us: Left Behind, you’re working from a double standard.

you mean that since they didn’t call out people complaining about a lack of gay representation they shouldn’t call out everyone complaining now that the complaints go both ways?

Basically this, yes.

Buddahriffic,

It just wasn’t clear what the “this” in the comment I replied to was referring to, the OP or the comment it replied to. My own comment assumed it was saying thr comment it replied to had the double standard, but I see now that it might have been agreeing with that comment’s sentiment but saying the OP was about a double standard.

Bennyboybumberchums,

No one gave a fuck about Ellie and Riley kissing in 2014. It wasnt until after the culture wars started that it became a thing. Im still not even sure it is a thing, since everyone was saying that not liking part 2 was only because you dont like “the gayz”. Which is bullshit. The fans of the game, knew for 6 years that Ellie was gay, and that she was going to be the only playable character(which turned out to be bullshit), and everyone was still looking forward to it.

Then the leaks happened, and all of sudden half the fans are bigots…

Katana314,

I’m in a perspective of hoping for more romantic subplots of any kind. I never played through any generation of RPGs that made those popular, and when they were there, they were hastily written in, or just optional.

It’s why I’m excited for a certain JRPG remake that puts one such relation (between a guy and a girl) front and center, so much so that it becomes a driving element of the story. Those who know, know I suppose.

One thing that helps in its case is, it doesn’t advertise on the box “Romance 1-1000 characters!!” IMO, a good romantic plot sneaks up on you after you’ve invested in the characters.

UnderpantsWeevil,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

It’s why I’m excited for a certain JRPG remake that puts one such relation (between a guy and a girl) front and center, so much so that it becomes a driving element of the story.

Are we talking about FF7 or something else?

IMO, a good romantic plot sneaks up on you after you’ve invested in the characters.

That’s good writing for you.

Katana314,

Honestly, I suppose FF7 is another great example, but I was thinking of the Trails in the Sky remake due out in a month or two.

Sorry if that’s a vague spoiler. It wasn’t even something I knew about the game playing through, but the slow-impact delivery of it worked fantastically.

UnderpantsWeevil,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

I thought I was pretty up on my JRPGs, but I’ve literally never heard of this franchise before today.

Katana314,

Probably one of the best ads for it:
Reactions to the first game’s ending, with no spoilers

Soulg,

I’m calling it out right now because someone posted a meme and I’m replying to that post. I am not against more representation in video games, and I find people who whine about it to be annoying children.

state_electrician,

Also, nobody is forcing anybody to play a game. Every gamer already chooses to not play most of the games that exist. What’s one more?

kepix,

how dare you stating facts

callouscomic, do gaming w Whine harder you assholes

I want to be something else when I play games. I don’t understand this need to be the same thing I am every fucking day. Bring on other genders, sexes, races, species, colors, limbs, all of it. Let’s be different. It’s a fucking video game.

RisingSwell,

Given the choice I’m almost never playing a human. The fuck would I want to be me for lmao

Zahille7,

Argonian or Dark Elf, almost literally every time.

untorquer,

Get so weird slimey tentacled dozen limbed furry scaley shit going.

captain_aggravated,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

Looking at my game library, I seem to prefer blank slate player characters.

In Factorio, you play as a humanoid in a jumpsuit. In Satisfactory, you play as a humanoid in a jumpsuit. Infinifactory you play as a humanoid in a space suit. Antichamber you play as some being that can hold a gun-like tool. Buckshot Roulette you play as…something that can fire a shotgun. In all Half-Life and Portal games you play as a series of named but barely characterized people. Return of the Obra Dinn you play as an investigator, each time you start the game it randomly chooses a male or female voice for the player character. In Subnautica, you play as a stuffed wetsuit.

MyNameIsAtticus, do games w Weekly Recommendations Thread: What are you playing this week?
@MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve been playing a lot of Halo 4 with friends lately this week. We’re working on Spartan Ops since it’s the last legendary achievement i have to do

Blackmist, do games w Why do new Silent Hill entries attract so much negativity?

Because fuck Konami.

Which I can sort of agree with.

filister, do games w Weekly Recommendations Thread: What are you playing this week?

Eriksholm

It is a very beautiful isometric stealth game with a good story. I am playing the demo and I am already hooked to it. The demo is surprisingly long and enough to decide whether you are interested or not in this game.

BurgerBaron, do gaming w Whine harder you assholes
@BurgerBaron@piefed.social avatar

Never liked this lumping of everyone into oversimplified "gamers" as if it's anything different besides conservatives who happen to play games.

It is always conservatives. In any hobby.

thatKamGuy,

There’s a reason that particular cohort is mockingly referred to as capital-G Gamers^TM^.

Zahille7,

Exactly.

ano_ba_to,

Not just any hobby, any country. You think this country still uses fax machines and are a bunch of racists? You think that country doesn’t believe in vaccines and elected a moron? You think that country is committing a genocide?

Kolanaki, do games w Been getting more and more obsessed with supermarket simulators recently 🛒. These are my favourites, what are yours?
@Kolanaki@pawb.social avatar

I need to hop back into the OG (Just Supermarket Simulator) and check out the changes. They added crime and cleaning to it since I last played. Maybe even more.

Novamdomum,
@Novamdomum@fedia.io avatar

That looks pretty cool actually and I've just seen you can get self checkout tills too. Might have to give it a try. Not a big fan of them adding crime though. I used to run a shop a few years ago and crime was never a fun thing to have to deal with.

Tanoh,

You can turn off crime in the options menu.

Novamdomum,
@Novamdomum@fedia.io avatar

I just bought Supermarket Simulator and played it for 5 hours straight. It's so addictive!! 😆 That birdsong gets on your nerves after a while but I saw there's a mod that removes it so I'll try that tomorrow.

Novamdomum,
@Novamdomum@fedia.io avatar

Quick update apparently 5 days later, I've now played 55 hours of this... Such an addictive game! 😁

Mike_The_TV, do games w Is Dirge of Cerberus: Final Fantasy VII Worth Playing in 2025?
@Mike_The_TV@lemmy.world avatar

There are better games for sure but its not a waste of time to play it. It is very of its era though gameplay wise.

itisileclerk, do gaming w Whine harder you assholes
@itisileclerk@lemmy.world avatar

That’s nothing, I was forced to play a snake that was eating small dots and getting longer and longer.

Railcar8095, do games w Is Dirge of Cerberus: Final Fantasy VII Worth Playing in 2025?

No, it never was.

RizzRustbolt, do games w Why do new Silent Hill entries attract so much negativity?

Only those with strong negative emotions gather in Silent Hill.

Apeman42, do gaming w Whine harder you assholes
@Apeman42@lemmy.world avatar

Feel like dudes who refuse to ever play as women or in simulated gay relationships are just depriving themselves of some quality content. I haven’t gotten to this BG3 playthrough yet, but you can’t tell me Ascended Astarion and Ambition Gale won’t be the most toxic codependent enabling shit ever, and it is gonna be enthralling to watch that heat up and burn down.

untorquer,

Stay away from Gale. The mechanics of romancing him are more toxic than the character themself. There is no indication of when he locks you out of other options. It’s like playing “Set a Boundary Simulator”. Least fulfilling romance imo. What a fucking weirdo.

Definitely go full in, “I can fix him” with Astarion.

Talking from many patches ago fwiw, maybe some of the mechanics were fixed.

Tracaine, do games w Why do new Silent Hill entries attract so much negativity?

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  • Katana314,

    Damn man, I love Resident Evil and have never finished an SH game, but we have so many of the former (especially considering the indie scene) this seems like an excessively presumptuous comment.

    RightHandOfIkaros,

    Silent Hill was never a Resident Evil clone. It always had a unique identity. Resident Evil, except the original game, has the identity of a Hollywood Action movie. The developers of the game have stated that is what they wanted from the series starting with RE2. Silent Hill, on the other hand, is like a much slower Alfred Hitchcock Suspense film. Slower paced, methodical, and plays on the viewer’s imagination. Where Resident Evil might explicitly say something in the lore, Silent Hill is more likely to only imply it.

    And then we get to Silent Hill 2 Remake which basically is just a copy of Resident Evil 4 Remake, sadly.

    daggermoon, do games w Why do new Silent Hill entries attract so much negativity?

    I don’t know but its fucking annoying. Yes, the Team Silent games were the best, but that doesn’t mean we can’t have more great SH games. I’d like to think Konami learned their lesson with Downpour. Homecoming was alright except for it contradicting previously established lore. I’m going to play f with an open mind. Being an SH fan can be exhausting sometimes.

    memo,
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    honestly, imma just say it: silent hill shattered memories had a very interesting take on the series, and I don’t see anything wrong with spin-offs or minor titles deviating from the original formula of gameplay. Are we just bathing a tad too much in nostalgia?

    RightHandOfIkaros,

    I dont mind spin-offs. I avtually like Silent Hill The Arcade and I wanted to play Book of Memories until I saw its not supported in Vita3k still. I ain’t buying a Vita just for that one game.

    I don’t understand IP fans that think spin-offs are mainline entries. Metroid Prime Pinball and Hyrule Warriors (the original one) are among the best of the best spin-offs. I can’t imagine why anyone would think they taint the series they are based on. They are supplemental material made to be fun, not to contribute to the mainline story.

    JasSmith, do games w 1 year a go today, Concord was released.

    Such a comprehensive example of poor decision making at so many levels. From the decision to charge for a PvP hero shooter in a saturated market of free PvP hero shooters, to spending what appeared to be tens of millions on marketing, PR, and CGI cut scenes, to the worst character designs in living memory. It’s clear they did zero focus group testing on those characters, or if they did, they ignored all feedback. As is so common now, everyone involved in the fiasco is going to be integrated into future projects and destroy them too. They’ll learn nothing and keep doing it.

    glimse,

    The character design was derivative but they weren’t awful, come on now. Absolutely true about the rest

    JasSmith,

    I struggle to think of worse examples in the AAA space. The colours weren’t just badly complemented, but intentionally violated colour theory. Their skills had nothing to do with their aesthetic or stories. They were just kind of thrown together without any care. Why was Baz, the bulky man, given ninja-like skills? None of the characters were attractive. One was morbidly obese. Almost all of them were gender non-conforming. And the biggest sin of all: none of them were cool. They were all lame as shit. You must know all of this if you’ve been following the story and criticism. It’s fine to disagree and in many instances there is room for subjectivity, but this was one of those rare examples where we can all come together to objectively declare these characters a train wreck.

    inb4_FoundTheVegan,
    @inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world avatar

    None of the characters were attractive. One was morbidly obese. Almost all of them were gender non-conforming

    Some real capital G-amer takes here. Come everyone, let’s join hands and “objectively” agree to hate minority bodies.

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