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Zacsau, do gaming w I'm looking for the Holy Grail of multiplayer gaming

Old School RuneScape.

Some people will say it is grindy, but those people are just weak minded.

endeavor,

People who imply rs has grind in it disgust me

Poopfeast420, (edited ) do gaming w I'm looking for the Holy Grail of multiplayer gaming
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What do you want? Lots of games fit that description.

In some shooters, you basically only grind for cosmetics, like Overwatch, Marvel Rivals or Counter-Strike. Dota 2 is a Moba and also only has cosmetic unlocks, I think.

Maybe Minecraft or Terraria? I don’t think you really grind in these games, but you do very similar stuff all the time.

judgyweevil,

These are the features that I want to avoid: grinding for resources, cosmetics, and anything that require repetitive and/or mindless action. Any genre is good, the question is more like a test to see if a game like this can exist

Poopfeast420,
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No cosmetics pretty much disqualifies almost every game, because all of them have it, even old games.

In my comment before, I probably wouldn’t describe cosmetics as a grind. You just unlock stuff on the side, as a bonus, since most of it is random. It’s not like you’re going to play a thousand games of Ursa in Dota to unlock some rare skin.

judgyweevil,

A bit of cosmetics on the side is ok. What I want to avoid is cosmetics like in Sea of Thieves, where the main reason to gather resources and completing mission is unlocking them

judgyweevil,

I consider digging hours for diamond as a form of grinding, and you have to get it for crafting advanced stuff. I could play creative mode, but at that point it’s more like a 3d Paint than a game

endeavor,

Vintage story has grind also but it makes it way more interesting and satisfying.

TheFriendlyDickhead, do games w Youtuber Geekerwan has find the motherboard of Switch 2 and after reverse-engineer he have simulate the performance on a similar PC

A bit of topic, but it pains me to see how powerful high end phones got. Like most people just use them to text and scroll social media. Why do people spend that much money?!

B0NK3RS,
@B0NK3RS@lemmy.world avatar

Who doesn’t want to spend £50+ a month to doom scroll…

sugar_in_your_tea,

Yeah, I pay like $15/month to doom scroll.

desktop_user,

people that just buy the phone instead of getting a weird contract thingy.

tobz619,

If anything, it makes me wonder why we don’t have more small dedicated handheld gaming devices that aren’t phones or pseudocomputers and don’t cost a bomb.

Like a £220 PSP/GBA/DS-like device with decent first-party support would be really nice for me imo

gradual,

Because we already have phones.

The solution is to release games for phones that require a controller, but most companies aren’t willing to be the first ones to do it.

Elevator7009,

I’m probably part of the problem. I’ve never used a controller except a few times at friends’ houses. I grew up with Nintendo DS, Wii, PC, and smartphone games. I don’t want to ever have to pick up a controller.

pory,
@pory@lemmy.world avatar

With a phone, there’s a type of controller that wraps around the phone, turning it into a Switch form factor. That’s probably the middle ground between atrocious touchscreen d-pads (or only playing games that actually work well with touch controls) versus lugging around a Dualsense and some mount contraption or kickstanding your phone on a surface.

Elevator7009,

I’ve never had trouble with or resented touch screen D-pads ^^; again I am part of the problem I suppose, because it seems by your post that most people hate the things I’m genuinely satisfied with. I hope the general controller-liking population gets things to serve their needs too, though. Thanks for providing the information for what I’m assuming is the majority.

7arakun,

The Switch Lite is exactly this. $200 handheld that runs first party games. There are android handhelds like the Retroid pocket 5 as well.

A Steam Deck Lite would be incredible. Small, cheap, linux-based, and powerful enough to run indie games and some light 3D. I think that form factor basically needs an arm cpu though.

tobz619, (edited )

Yeah, I’m taking a look at the RP5 it looks quite good. I wish its GameCube Performance was better but this might be the one for me :D

If it can also play Steam games/x86 games, that would also be cracked

teamevil,

Or just use a phone that’s a couple years old

thermal_shock,

Yeah, I got an S23 for $400, upgraded from a 7 year old S9

teamevil,

I’d say go on swappa and pick up an S21 for 125 and be ready to go…leave the S23 for doom scrollin.

thermal_shock,

Why downgrade?

CosmoNova,

There are plenty handhelds in all shapes and sizes in that price range for exactly this. How many more do we need?

emeralddawn45,

You can buy handhelds for like $100 that have basically every console game up to and including ps2/ds preloaded. What else would you need?

tobz619,

Something that can play PS2/GameCube games effortlessly

Maybe even a bit of PS3!

emeralddawn45,

www.goretroid.com/…/retroid-pocket-4-handheld

Can play gamecube/wii games and most ps2. Ps3 you’re gonna have problems with even with a steamdeck sometimes.

gradual,

Why do people spend that much money?!

Conditioning. They have more money so they spend it proportionally.

aegis_sum,

I ended up buying a cheap controller that clamps to my phone and run emulators. It works way better than I ever expected.

tobz619,

I know but I don’t want to use my phone as a gaming device. The retroid pocket 5 could be the one for me

Ledericas,

theres also isnt much difference, so the higher end , aka flagship ones are slightly better than the previous editions. no need to spend 800-1k+, i bought a OPR12 instead. pixels tries to justify thier flagship prices with thier useless AI chips.

AdrianTheFrog,
@AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world avatar

Yea, I got the op 12 because it was just $50 more than the r on Amazon at the time.

It’s definitely powerful enough but I’m slightly disappointed by the software, arcore is just completely broken, and hdr is fairly spotty (works in yt app and photos app but doesn’t work in chrome or Google photos)

Ledericas,

the op12 has higher memory capacity storage, and beter telephoto lens, i dont really like the curved screen though, other than that its good. i think 13 or mostly got rid of that curved screen.

AdrianTheFrog,
@AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, it’s probably not something I would have chosen if I had the option but I don’t really care about the curved screen.

orenj,
@orenj@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

There are real video games for phones now, and I’m pretty sure emulation is up to at least on the gamecube era. Slap a controller on it and a phone is pretty much just a hyper-powered gameboy advance.

EddoWagt,

I can totally emulate PS2 and some Switch games on my phone, but never really use the power

Trainguyrom,

The big benefit is that much horsepower allows the phone to very very rapidly “race to sleep” in that the faster it can crunch the numbers then return to a much slower clock the less power it’ll consume overall

AtariDump,

Especially as the phone gets older and apps get more complex.

Fenrisulfir,

I keep my phones for 6-8 years. I’m in my 40s and have only ever bought 3 phones, going back to the iPhone 2 3g

degen,

Just say you’ve never cracked a screen, everyone and their brother will be wet

AtariDump,
degen,

I should watch Archer again

Fenrisulfir,

I would be too. You know they’re repairable right?

degen,

I did assume a thing or two I guess lol. I got a refurb when it was cheaper than a fix. Wonder if that counts as a “new” phone… Theseus would probably like to have a word.

GaMEChld,

Genshin Impact does make my phone toasty.

RageAgainstTheRich,

Apps by corporations are stuffed with ads, telemetry and other crap. It uses frameworks on top of other frameworks and import libraries for the dumbest shit. For example the reddit app is about 120mb while my lemmy voyager app is 8mb…

The twitch.tv app is 150mb while an open source twitch app is 25mb. It has even more functionality and options and runs like butter.

Most of the shit phones have to run and process is in the background to track and sell.

Its really bad and why i encourage people to use open source versions of stuff they use.

WilfordGrimley, do gaming w I'm looking for the Holy Grail of multiplayer gaming

Sea of Thieves.

There has never and will never be any pay to win. Everyone has access to all weapons at any time, no unlocking, just pure skill.

Up to 4 players on your team (ship) open servers with other players all sailing around all the time. You can get in an organic fight over treasure, or matchmake for ranked battles.

All of the progression is cosmetic based.

The devs have been adding content constantly since launch that fleshes out the game systems and makes for more interesting interaction.

I come back to this game all the time. Highly recommend.

ocean,

Is it worth getting this late?

BootyEnthusiast,

Absolutely, it’s still constantly getting updates, and got an actual anti-cheat recently which helped the health of the game a TON.

Huge learning curve to the game, but there’s nothing else like it.

WilfordGrimley,

Definitely, even better if you can try during a free weekend or get it half price on a sale.

Amazing with friends, on your own or with randos.

So many organic ways to interact and communicate with other players. Seriously cool, unique and worthwhile experience.

orca,

This game is so much fun, even when I’m the loner getting my ass handed to me on my sloop (which is most of the time). Seeing a ship looming in the distance and wondering if it’s going to come after you is such a rush.

orca, do gaming w I'm looking for the Holy Grail of multiplayer gaming

Quake 3 Instagib.

Geodad, do gaming w I'm looking for the Holy Grail of multiplayer gaming

I play FF XIV online. There’s as much or as little grinding as you want there to be. I’m in a really chill social FC.

judgyweevil,

Can you advance in the game without any grinding?

Geodad,

Yes, they give you the gear you need to make it each step of the way through the story.

Crafting and gathering are optional. Relic weapons are optional.

There are some players who like to role play. There are casuals, hardcore, and everything in between.

C8r9VwDUTeY3ZufQRYvq,

I’m obsessively playing guild wars 2 at the moment, and it is arguably similar, in that you don’t absolutely have to grind to enjoy the game. You can get a character to top level very quickly (a few days), and you can gear them up to play a lot of the end game content fairly quickly (exotic gear is about 5% weaker than the best gear in the game and significantly cheaper and easier to get. You don’t have to craft or collect resources to play and have a good time.

muhyb, do gaming w I'm looking for the Holy Grail of multiplayer gaming

For me, it’s Starcraft 2.

owenfromcanada, do gaming w I'm looking for the Holy Grail of multiplayer gaming

The obvious answers are the games we endlessly replayed historically: Mario Kart, Goldeneye (VS mode), Halo (VS), Smash Bros.

If you specifically want ones on PC, I’d suggest Starcraft, Age of Empires, and probably Counter Strike (I wasn’t into that one, but it had a huge following).

Many board games fit the bill as well. Codenames (physical or online at horsepaste.com) comes to mind, and another commenter also mentioned chess.

Basically any games that were made before endlessly grinding became a thing (yep, that’s only been a thing for a decade or two).

audaxdreik, do gaming w I'm looking for the Holy Grail of multiplayer gaming

Trackmania, although depending on how you want to slice it, you might consider it ONLY grinding.

Incredibly low skill floor (4 button racing sim) but with near infinite skill ceiling as you learn to master all the nuances of movement, surface types, tricks, etc.

Endless amounts of content with the seasonal campaigns, tracks of the day, and weekly shorts, but also just a full blown track editor for community content on the side. Each track is like a little puzzle where you memorize all the details then try and get your best performance. Play in an online server with your friends and just chat, listen to music, or watch a movie in the background. Find your favorite style and master it: tech, dirt, NASCAR, lol.

It’s my favorite game to just turn my brain off and drive.

Kolanaki, do gaming w I'm looking for the Holy Grail of multiplayer gaming
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The Finals or Rocket League.

Chozo,
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I also recommend The Finals! It's exclusively multiplayer, and the only "grind" one needs to worry about is unlocking all the weapons and gadgets; it doesn't take long to do, and you don't even need all of them if you aren't going to use them. But there's nothing to level up or upgrade, so once you buy an item, it's just a permanent part of your kit. There's no story or campaign that you have to progress, no cutscenes to sit through. You just launch the game, pick a mode, and queue for a match.

I have like 750+ in-match hours logged, and have no plans on stopping.

anti_antidote, do gaming w I'm looking for the Holy Grail of multiplayer gaming

How’s Bean Battles sound?

mohab, do gaming w I'm looking for the Holy Grail of multiplayer gaming

Fighting games:

  1. Endlessly replayable because there's always more to learn.
  2. No grinding because there's nothing to grind.
Comment105,

I’ve enjoyed Tekken more than Mortal Kombat.

I mostly played Tag Tournament 2

Vespair, do games w Giant Bomb, a web site about video games, has been purchased from Fandom

“to what happened with Giant Bomb”

Boy I sure am glad that seemingly-crucial part of context was included in this post.

ampersandrew,
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A boss several steps up the chain decided to make changes to how the site operates that were incompatible with what Giant Bomb is, namely that they wanted an advertiser-friendly, “brand-safe” image with less swearing and streaming. This led to a number of key people leaving, at which point, the name Giant Bomb isn’t really worth anything to anyone. It’s been covered in tons of gaming circles this week alongside the similar destruction of Polygon, so I didn’t think it needed to be stated yet again as I was summarizing bullet points from a live stream.

MalikMuaddibSoong,

RIP Escapist Magazine

AngryCommieKender,

Second Wind is filling the “Yahtzee rants about a game that I’m unlikely to play anytime soon” hole nicely.

zipzoopaboop,

Meh

Vespair,

It’s been covered in tons of gaming circles this week alongside the similar destruction of Polygon, so I didn’t think it needed to be stated yet again as I was summarizing bullet points from a live stream.

Very fair and valid.

I will just gently state that this is c/games, not c/gamingcircles and thus many of us are very interested in video games but not necessarily the industries on the periphery thereof, so what seems “yet again” to you might be a first time for others.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

Very true. Though at the same time, you probably could have found that context you were looking for by typing a couple of those words into your favorite search engine or Wikipedia.

Vespair,

I agree with you, but I do believe that is an unrealistic expectation for interacting with casual lemmy posts when a custom of including relevant context exists. But all good, I’ll admit my lack of awareness on this one; you did nothing wrong.

EncryptKeeper,

I mean sure but we could all just do that with everything and we wouldn’t need Lemmy at all lmao

ampersandrew,
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You wouldn’t know what to search for, but in this case you would.

missingno, do gaming w I'm looking for the Holy Grail of multiplayer gaming
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Fighting games. I've been grinding Skullgirls for over 10 years now, without a single skinner box in sight.

it_depends_man, do games w Giant Bomb, a web site about video games, has been purchased from Fandom

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Disgusting. I don’t demand or expect them to rewrite their website, but those people are nowhere near even “neutral” status, as long as they behave this way.

Certainly not allies or friends I would support.

ampersandrew,
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The sale is also hours old, and the new owners are all out of town.

it_depends_man,

Ok, I’m looking forward to them changing this practice then. We’ll see if they do.

MoonRaven,
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They literally just split off of Fandom. There has been no time to do anything about this.

it_depends_man,

Ok, I’m looking forward to them changing this practice then. We’ll see if they do.

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