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vortexal, (edited ) do games w Are there any games like Diablo but not Diablo because Diablo?
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I’m not sure if you are looking for anything on a specific system/console but I have a few suggestions. The first one being Baldur’s Gate: Dark Alliance and it’s sequel. Eternium also looks pretty good, especially for a game that was originally exclusive to mobile. I unfortunately can’t say much about these games because I have yet to play them for an extended period of time but I have played them enough to know that they are at least similar to the Diablo games.

I am also aware of some other games that might be worth checking out but I’m not sure how close to the Diablo games you are looking for and they are quite different from the Diablo games.

loobkoob, do games w Are there any games like Diablo but not Diablo because Diablo?

Last Epoch and Grim Dawn are probably most in line with Diablo, I think.

People have mentioned Path Of Exile, and I've played a lot of it, but I don't think it feels particularly like Diablo any more, even though it started out that way. It's quite unforgiving, and even a lot of experienced players feel like they need to follow build guides rather than work things out for themselves. Its learning curve is hundreds or thousands of hours long. Of course, the reason for that is that it has incredible depth, variety and complexity, which may be a selling point or a deterrent depending on what you like! I definitely like the complexity of it myself, but it's very overwhelming when you're new. The reason I don't think it's all that in line with Diablo these days, though, is simply the pacing of the gameplay. You blow up screens of enemies at a time, and your deaths are often so fast that you're not really sure what killed you.

Path Of Exile also heavily revolves around its trading economy. Item drop rates are balanced around players being able to trade for them, which makes trading somewhat mandatory (unless you're a bit of a masochist). The economy is fairly complex, with there being a lot of different currencies, and quite a lot of factors that can affect the value of an item. I'll let you decide whether you find this appealing or not - some people do, some people don't! I do think it causes some issues with the balance and progression of the game, but it's interesting to say the least, even if you wish you didn't have to engage with it.

Grim Dawn feels a little mechanically dated at this point but it's still solid. It's got some good builds, the dual-class system and constellations system make for some interesting variety. It's got an offline mode, as well as online co-op play. Its real selling point, though, at least for me, is it's absolutely soaked with atmosphere. It's very, well, grim, but the world is really immersive and it has a great setting in general with a solid story and some great lore. It also has quite a lot of mods available (including the Reign Of Terror mod I mentioned in another comment in the thread that adds the entire Diablo 2 campaign and all its classes to Grim Dawn).

Last Epoch is more mechanically interesting than Grim Dawn, I think, but it's lacking in the story and world-building. It's still in early access, although its full release is next week. It has quite a lot of depth and complexity, but it's all done in an intuitive way that means you can jump into the game blindly and work things out for yourself fairly easily. It has a good variety of skills, and the fact that each skill has its own fairly comprehensive skill tree means you can play the same skills in very different ways. It has a wonderful itemisation system that does a great job of making you actually engage with the loot you find on the floor (which is an issue in other loot games), and some of the best crafting I've ever seen in a game. The dev team also manages to come up with some really creative and somewhat intuitive solutions to things they perceive as issues in other ARPGs.

Last Epoch's biggest drawback is that its endgame is currently a little lacking in comparison to POE (which has a very rich and deep endgame, but is also a ten-year-old game that's been updated constantly). It's still far, far better than Diablo 4's, though, and will obviously only improve as more is added. Last Epoch has some truly brilliant systems in place for the devs to build off - and frankly, I still think it's great now - but it'll only get better as more content gets added over time.

I love all three games I've talked about for different reasons, and honestly, they're all well worth playing!

falsem,

The reason I don't think it's all that in line with Diablo these days, though, is simply the pacing of the gameplay. You blow up screens of enemies at a time, and your deaths are often so fast that you're not really sure what killed you.

Yeah, that's why I don't care for POE anymore these days.

GreenAlex, do games w Are there any games like Diablo but not Diablo because Diablo?
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I'll add Chronicon to the list! Its approach to endgame is quite similar to D3, but more entertaining imo. It was also made by a solo dev, which is very impressive.

registeredusername, do games w Are there any games like Diablo but not Diablo because Diablo?
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Grim Dawn and DevilutionX. github.com/diasurgical/devilutionX

DevilutionX is basically Diablo but opensource

z00s, do games w Are there any games like Diablo but not Diablo because Diablo?

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Omegamanthethird, do games w Are there any games like Diablo but not Diablo because Diablo?
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I’d you have a PS2, you can check out Champions of Norrath: Realms of EverQuest.

Defaced, do games w Are there any games like Diablo but not Diablo because Diablo?

Last epoch, path of exile, grim dawn, Torchlight 1,2 and if you want to suffer 3, if you can suffer through Korean p2w nonsense then lost ark, and also titan quest. All of these games are on multiple platforms.

surewhynotlem, do games w Are there any games like Diablo but not Diablo because Diablo?

Torchlight 2 if you like the gear gathering and optimization.

clearleaf, do games w Are there any games like Diablo but not Diablo because Diablo?

Lord of the rings on GBA is a pretty decent option if all you can do is emulate old systems.

Clasm, do games w Are there any games like Diablo but not Diablo because Diablo?

I’ve had a lot of fun with Book of Demons, which is a bit more simplified, but really respects whatever amount of time I have to put into it!

Donjuanme,

I’m so excited for their future projects, book of aliens will be a day 1 pre order for me. There are just a few things I’d change with the gameplay of book of demons, and it would be nice if the references were a bit more subtle, but it’s a great(if simplified) Diablo 2 meets rogue like multi class deck builder amalgamation.

Potatos_are_not_friends,

Book of Demons was so good. Shame the roadmap the indie studio made couldn’t be met. It was wildly ambitious.

Nacktmull, do games w Are there any games like Diablo but not Diablo because Diablo?
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There are many good games listed here. However, focus on Path of Exile. It´s what Diablo 3 should have been.

Mun_Walker, do games w What's your favorite game you played this year? (Doesn't have to be released this year )

Cyberpunk has gotten so good I can’t put it down. This might be the only game I rarely even think about modding.

echoplex21,

I think next year I’ll finally get to this. Was hearing so much about the issues I decided to be in the wait and see until people started really recommending it.

tiredofsametab, do games w Are there any games like Diablo but not Diablo because Diablo?

Torchlight 2 should scratch that itch. To me, Path of Exile is something the Diablo series could have been but wasn't exactly? Though I haven't played it in a number of years, so I may be mis-remembering exactly what it was like. I seem to think it was more like a point-and-click RPG with kinda Diablo-like combat.

Glide,

Path of Exile has “evolved”, and not in a way I like, in the most recent years.

It’s a very fast, clear-speed focused game, now, more so than ever. Even inside it’s genre, it’s exceptionally build focused and not very interactive during play, which is impressive, considering these are things the genre is known for.

simple, do games w Are there any games like Diablo but not Diablo because Diablo?

Last Epoch seems to be the most popular recent one. It’s currently in early access but it’s releasing in a week or so.

yokonzo,

Okay I’m liking the current class selection, still a little sparse but I mean it’s early access so whatever. But the reason this game is going in my wishlist is this one image https://cdn.cloudflare.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/899770/ss_f9e078d5e422403bf14804d0220fa887f20fbfb8.jpg?t=1707861355

That looks so fucking cool

PlantJam,

Those fifteen classes are all we’re getting for last epoch. Two of them won’t be live until launch on February 21 (falconer and warlock), but there’s a ton of diversity between those classes.

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