azerial, angielski Awe as a dev this kind of bums me out a little. I wonder that they used for DRM. Those sales go directly to the devs in way of raises and retention.
Granted this is not EA where i worked, but if you enjoy the game, i encourage you to buy it.
Also NOTE: I DO NOT SUPPORT DRM, just the pay checks of the devs as i was one for quite some time.
loudWaterEnjoyer, angielski You realize this is a forum, actually a whole instance, that centers around piracy, right?
azerial, angielski Yeah! You also realize this is a group full of intelligent people right? It’s the whole reason why i chose this instance.
loudWaterEnjoyer, angielski Intelligent enough not to pirate?
azerial, angielski What do you mean? I’m a contributor to saltbox. Lol
loudWaterEnjoyer, angielski What do you mean you’re a saltbox contributor? How does that fit into context?
ZodiacSF1969, angielski I agree with you, but I think both of us about to be downvoted by these cheapskates lol
azerial, angielski I’ve thought about this. I think that happened was because of timelines, they released a super early build, fuckin producers.
It’s not the worst thing for an early access game to be cracked, honestly. If the game is has more eyes, that’s great. I am curious about what is out now however.
I am also curious about if the cracked version can be updated with content once the game goes live. Like i have no idea when that is or if it has already happened.
ToxicWaste, angielski Totally agree on the paycheck. However we need to stop acting like piracy is bad only. Buy the things you really enjoy and support the creator(s).
Back in the days a friend suggested i buy Skyrim and i was like: “Uuh not sure if i want to spend that kind of money on a 2yo game”. But since he was quite a fan, i pirated it. Soon after I bought the LE version and today it is still my most played game.
NGL: i also pirated many things of which i never bought the original version. But because of the bay i also bought some things i most likely wouldn’t have without.
AtomicPurple, angielski Yup.
I was vaguely interested in Dark Souls for years, but every time I tried, I bounced right off it. I went through a cycle where every year or two, I would pirate one of the souls games, try it out, give up on it after an hour or so, and do it all over again the next time I was sufficiently compelled to give the series another shot. This happened until several years ago when I tried Dark Souls II, and for some reason it finally clicked. I played my pirated copy of Dark Souls II for about 10 hours, before a random crash corrupted my save file.
After that happened, I immediately bought the game on Steam and proceeded to play it for the next month and a half, until I eventually beat it. I've since purchased every souls game plus Elden Ring on Steam, and recently imported a copy of Bloodborne GOTY edition after spending $700 on an exploitable PS5, just so I could play it at 60FPS. None of these legitimate purchases would have ever happened if I hadn't been able to repeatedly pirate Dark Souls for about five years.
azerial, angielski I don’t think piracy is bad lol i do think mega corporate publishers have bad practices for sure. Like cool, the one i worked for is publicly traded. Awesome. Every action is greed motivated. I hate that.
Every time i loose hope in games i just play undertale and ignore the world. >.>
Blackmist, angielski I would think that it’s cheap availability on GamePass and likelihood of frequent updates would make for a muted response to this one.
Plus I don’t think it was protected to start with for modding purposes. People will be flying around in Thomas the Tank Engine by the end of next week.
argv_minus_one, angielski As is Bethesda tradition.
ColeSloth, angielski For these reasons, I’d rather buy Bethesda games. As a company, they aren’t assholes. I’d hate for them to get bought out by ea or something like all the rest.
DragonTypeWyvern, (edited ) angielski My only beef with them is their complete disregard for QA but, in the end, they’re right.
We’ll do it for them.
Well, and watering down the social commentary in their Fallouts to an absurd degree.
Can’t wait for Fallout 5 to say “AKSHUALLY, it was all China’s fault and capitalism is based and Vault Tec was justified. Join the Brotherhood or die, trash.”
Triangle For Enthusiastic Yes Square For Nod Silently
Blackmist, angielski Yes, that would be terrible for them to be bought by somebody like MS.
Krackalot, angielski While you’re absolutely right to point out they have already been bought by Microsoft. I think we can all admit MS has had an unbelievably better track record with acquiring studios than EA.
Celediel, angielski Pretty low bar you’ve set there…
AntiOutsideAktion, angielski As a company, they aren’t assholes
It’s just locker room sexual assault
unonessun0centomila, angielski Yes. Paid mods never existed.
Awoo, angielski I would think that it’s cheap availability on GamePass and likelihood of frequent updates would make for a muted response to this one.
The performance is absolute crap I think everyone should pirate it just to send a message. Like holy crap it’s awful.
Blackmist, angielski I think I’d rather play something I enjoy instead.
toxictenement, angielski I found an optimized ini file on nexusmods that has the game running real well and still looking pretty good. Good lord though yeah the performance is awful.
iturnedintoanewt, (edited ) angielski Hol-eee shit. My GTX 1070 doesn’t meet minimum requirements…and it just won’t boot? Oh wow.
mranachi, angielski Gamers nexus had gtx 1070 in their starfield performance review, so it can work on a 1070. 30fps on low settings I think though.
argv_minus_one, angielski Who the hell are they expecting is going to play this game? Only trust fund kids?
ddkman, angielski Like have you seen hw prices lately? The prices of these class of card simply crashed through the ground. 1070 are very cheap, the rx470-480 is barely sellable trash. A lot of time had passed since the 10series…
argv_minus_one, angielski Steam system requirements say RX5700 minimum. Recommended is RX6800XT, which was ludicrously expensive last I checked. Also I need a much newer CPU.
In this economy, that’s gonna be a no from me.
dustojnikhummer, angielski We knew the game would be demanding when MS announced 30FPS only on both consoles. And this time it isn’t a CPU bottleneck
ddkman, angielski But the 5700 is not an expensive gpu to buy second hand. Cpu asks for an ancient 6core or a 2nd gen ryzen. These aren’t unreasonable specs in 2023. Time has moved on. Sorry.
Mind you I have an ancient 6core and a 1080 class card.
thehellrocc, angielski Dude, the 1080 came out in 2016, that was just… oh.
Kit, angielski Adults with jobs?
argv_minus_one, angielski I’m an adult with a job, and I don’t have a snowball’s chance in hell of affording the recommended system requirements for this game any time soon. RX6800XTs do not grow on trees.
Awoo, angielski It runs like absolute crap. I have a 2070 with i9-12900k and 64gb ram and get 30fps on the LOWEST settings. That’s it.
I run Elden Ring at 120fps and just got done with Armored Core that ran at 144fps rock solid medium settings all the way through without a single blip.
The performance is unbelievably atrocious.
WhyIDie, angielski I was legitimately impressed at how well AC6 runs on my machine. FromSoftware’s come a long way from the original PC release of dark souls 1
Awoo, angielski Yeah it runs rock solid. I get the impression FS must have good employee retention and have very good methods for building employee skills, so over time they’ve only improved. On top of hiring and acquiring some of the best staff that must have existed in other Japanese studios. No idea how they actually treat the employees, could be like shit because it’s Japanese work culture, but something about them is producing content that is consistently a cut above everything. They’re getting up there like Rockstar in terms of quality but based in Japan instead of the UK.
HellAwaits, angielski It’ll burn your house down
darkeox, angielski
leftzero, angielski If you’ve got windows 10 try updating to 22h2 (no, really; a consequence of Bethesda being acquired by Microsoft, I suspect), and update your GPU drivers.
That got it running on my 980ti, so it should also work with the 1070.
lud, angielski Or it’s a consequence of the fact that all earlier windows 10 (non enterprise) versions are end of service.
I highly doubt it’s done intentionally. 21H2 probably misses a feature or they just didn’t care about 21H2 because why should they.
iturnedintoanewt, angielski Yeah, I think it’s probably having to do with how Wine/Lutris emulates the Windows version, that makes it think it’s an older version. I’ll try on a real Windows partition…
devious, angielski Did u try adding it as a non-steam game directly on Steam and not using Lutris? I’ve tried both on my EndeavourOS PC and find that for whatever reason, it runs much better via Steam vs Lutris.
Double_A, angielski The 1070 is the official minimum requirement.
McNasty, angielski 1070Ti
justastranger, angielski Been trying to run it on an rx480 and it hiccups and crashes so much lol
vagrantprodigy, angielski Wonder if the cracked version crashes when starting a new game like the steam version does…
beirut_bootleg, angielski Kill any overlay apps like MSI. Process Explorer can crash it too. Just kill everything. Had this issue with FO76.
vagrantprodigy, angielski No overlays running, still crashes. I’m seeing quite a few people reporting this online, both with AMD and Nvidia, and of course Intel cards don’t work at all on this game.
Techmaster, angielski Is anybody on earth stupid enough to buy an Intel GPU?
ObiGynKenobi, angielski Anyone who wants AC Mirage and Nightingale? Anyone who supports disrupting the duopoly that, driven by corporate greed, has effectively priced the “budget card” out of existence over the last decade? Those 2 are just off the top of my head.
If I was in the market for a GPU, I’d probably buy Intel Battlemage on principle. At least then I can criticize the current state of the GPU industry without being hypocritical.
TheOakTree, angielski Awful shortsighted of a comment from a self-proclaimed “Techmaster” lol
Techmaster, angielski Guess I found one.
milkjug, angielski Devs: “it works fine on my machine”. At this point games should just come with their own OSes. Or hardware. Hell, ship 'em like arcade boxes.
redditReallySucks, angielski “Cracked” meaning having replaced a dll file
TheCaconym, angielski Exactly; this just needed an emulator like goldberg
Bethesda games usually don’t go for heavy DRM stuff (beyond the basic steam DRM), because it impairs modding (especially injection / nonofficial modding, stuff like SKSE for skyrim)
people_are_cute, angielski Doom Eternal has Denuvo.
rockhandle, angielski It was developed by ID I believe, bethesda only published the game.
_TK, angielski And is developed by ID software, not Bethesda Game Studios. Bethesda the publisher has different tactics when it comes to games not developed by BGS.
SoloboiNanook, angielski It had denuvo but the game shipped with a denuvo-less exe so it was “cracked” day 1 lol.
Mighta been the 2016 doom but regardless it was funny lol
Ozzy, angielski I have to applaud Bethesda for this decision, it is something that is very nice for the end user.
TechnoBabble, angielski It really is a big move, since it likely cost them millions in early sales.
I probably would have bought it already if I couldn’t find a crack, but now I can pirate and wait for a nice sale.
I’m sure I’m not the only one.
Ozzy, angielski Tbh what you’re doing is exactly what I did too with Skyrim. Downloaded a crack played for probably 1k hours and then bought it just to play 1k more
totallynotfbi, angielski They don’t even replace the DLL file for you! After you run the RUNE installer, you have to copy the emulator yourself
TechnoBabble, angielski You can just click the checkbox for “Copy crack to install directory” to get the installer to do everything for you.
I’m not sure why that isn’t the default.
JasonHears, angielski I love that pirate groups still use ascii text art in their release notes. It’s like a little piece of the world that hasn’t changed in 30 years.
TheCaconym, (edited ) angielski And still include cheesy mp3s playing too loud in retro-futuristic-looking installers
CosmicApe, angielski The music in the installers is the best part about installing cracks
SaltySalamander, angielski The track included in the Rune installer for Starfield was actually a banger
EuroNutellaMan, angielski I need to find out how to make these. Mostly just cause I like it.
TheCaconym, angielski On Linux, you’ll want to install figlet and toilet (both available in the debian repos)
Alternatively you’ve got this online frontend
If you really want to get weird with it you can also play any video in ascii art through libcaca and mplayer. Looks like this
EuroNutellaMan, angielski I use Arch btw Endeavour OS so don’t have Debian repos but I will definitely check them out. I especially like the fancy dark mode.
TheCaconym, angielski I just checked and figlet at least appears to be in the arch repositories as well
EuroNutellaMan, angielski Thanks, I will check it out tomorrow. I uave used pyfiglet in the past tbf so I figured it woukd be available either via the official repos or the AUR.
Catasaur, angielski On Linux, you’ll want to install figlet and toilet
I know you’re 100% serious, but this sentence sounds so made up and hilarious
Wilker, angielski it’s typically just a kind of pixel art with monospaced fonts¹. any characters you see that’s not typically shown on your keyboard (e.g a filled square) can be found in a character selection program in your OS. anything else related to texts, templating and line breaks you can probably find a program somewhere on places like crates.io or gitlab or write something of your own without much trouble.
¹ a monospaced font is a font where every letter and character has the same spacing from each other, and are the easiest to do ascii art. (ascii is just one character table, but you can also gather unicode chars all you want)
ComradeLove, angielski Somehow I expect hackers to do cooler stuff these days. I want hackers to release a Switch version of the game.
adriaan, angielski It can barely run on a gtx1070 man what kind of black magic do you expect a hacker to cast to make it run on a Switch
mara, angielski I love that the installer has a cracktro, that’s the real good stuff.
lustrum, angielski I bopped to that shit for ages.
nova_ad_vitum, angielski I pirated a cracked version of Adobe Acrobat Pro recently. First thing I had to crack in years. It had a sketchy crack installer , with music and everything. Like it was back in the 90s. Of course it worked perfectly lol.
violetraven, angielski Chiptune/tracker/keygen music will all hold a special place in my heart.
azerial, angielski Oh my too!
loudWaterEnjoyer, angielski I really like the chip tunes, but I think they are not creating them anymore in the authentic way
Catradora_Stalinism, angielski Imma wait for the fitgirl repack
Schadrach, angielski fitgirl repack
Looks like it’s already out.
Catradora_Stalinism, angielski yass already have it seeded
cows_are_underrated, angielski Can anyone give me a full guide on how to get this to work on Linux(Arch btw), since I have absolutely no clue on how to do this stuff.
Contend6248, angielski There are endless guides already written out there, just search for “Lutris” or “Bottles”.
devious, angielski It’s super easy. I just added it as a non steam game in my library and it worked. It also works on Lutris using a default wine context. I’ve been playing it and I’m on EndeavourOS (Arch)
mara, angielski Did you run into a case where a RX5700 was detected as unsupported?
devious, angielski No I didn’t face that. And I’m running an AMD 5700 XT
iturnedintoanewt, angielski Is RUNE or IGGAMESCOM trustworthy?
samus12345, angielski I’ve never had a problem with them.
Abraxiel, angielski Rune is. A lot of people don’t like IGG, but I’ve never had a problem with it. You gotta be good at dealing with ads and such though.
Ilandar, angielski RUNE cracked Baldur’s Gate 3 recently.
ObiGynKenobi, angielski Imagine cracking a game that’s already on gog lmao
Distant_Foreground, angielski Your comment and username have made my day so far.
ObiGynKenobi, angielski Glad I could brighten your day, friend :) Thanks for sharing
Amir, angielski Which is DRM free…
BeeCoffee, angielski The amount of leachers are a sight to see
Serinus, angielski The four day head start thing being bullshit was a good point. But yeah, I’m not likely to pirate an executable any time soon.
BeeCoffee, angielski Time and money consuming, new hard drive, install windows, install the exe and check if that wasn’t a malware, or a VM, GPU pass trough, install win and starfield
Serinus, angielski Yeah, this is probably the way I’d go about it. Dedicated hard drive, separate/no network access, no access to other files. Who cares if it is malware if it can’t get to anything.
KevinDeRodeTovenaar, (edited ) angielski I got installed the game, when i start it steam opens up and give a “no license” prompt
I forgot to tick a box that copies the crack install dir
Abraxiel, angielski you probably didn’t copy the crack over
mara, angielski Install the crack on top of it
ayaya, angielski To be fair it’s the exact same bypass as any other Steam game. Any steam emulator would work.
Blxter, angielski Did starfield not have denuvo drm? I thought most Bethesda games did.
harmonea, angielski Bethesda the publisher does things differently than Bethesda the developer.
As a dev, they know their modding communities keep their games alive long, long past their expiration dates and will fuck with them as little as they possibly can - this takes them from games to household names to legends that everyone knows.
As a publisher pushing products that aren't intended to be modded, they drink the koolaid.
Qualanqui, angielski I disagree about the publishing side somewhat, every now and then the publishing team hits a home run. Like I’ve been playing Ghostwire: Tokyo recently which is published by Bethesda and it’s a pretty good game, and let’s not forget Prey which was an awesome game also published by Bethesda.
So tbey do get it right sometimes.
harmonea, (edited ) angielski I didn't say they don't make good games. I said they drink the koolaid.
Context matters, and in the context of this thread (whether or not Bethesda games often have Denuvo) that means the anti-piracy "DRM is neat" koolaid (vs them avoiding DRM for self-developed games so they can be modded extensively).
roon, angielski WTF is/was this comment? It’s killing me lol
Blxter, angielski Lol it was this “lemmy.zip/comment/2283511” /\ Did starfield not have denuvo drm. I thought most Bethesda games did. ", I tried to delete it but obviously not lol.
Melonius, angielski The game is kinda meh from what I’ve seen? Any positive impressions?
samus12345, (edited ) angielski Still downloading for me, but I see more than one review saying it takes a long time to get good. I’m keeping my expectations low.
EDIT: Glad I was warned it starts slow. It does get better if you stick with it.
EDIT 2: It entertained me for a week. It’s no Skyrim, or even Fallout. I would have been pissed if I’d paid for it.
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Techmaster, angielski So it’s more Destiny than No Man’s Sky.
leftzero, angielski Best comparison I’ve heard (by Gopher, if I recall correctly) is Outer Worlds, but less silly, and bigger by several orders of magnitude.
Techmaster, angielski Yeah Outer Worlds was awesome but very limited. So limited that it almost felt linear.
Awoo, (edited ) angielski Starfield really does look and run great.
Run great? Absolutely not.
I get 120fps in Elden Ring at medium, 2070, 64gb ram, i9-12900k.
Just got done with Armored Core, rock solid 144fps at medium all the way through, never a blip.
This runs at 30fps on lowest settings. It runs like absolute crap. It’s incredibly jarring to go from games that are gorgeous and well made with high performance to this thing running like something 20 years ago. Absolutely zero optimisation.
It will get a seriously negative response from the average pc user when user reviews start hitting due to this performance.
ryepunk, angielski The most positive I’ve heard is that it is a by the numbers Bethesda rpg game. It doesn’t try to be anything more. If you liked fallout 4 and skyrim odds are you’ll like this.
PraiseTheSoup, angielski What if I liked FO3 and New Vegas and hated FO4?
thisbenzingring, angielski Then you have good taste in games.
Qwaffle_waffle, angielski What if I liked Fallout 76?
thisbenzingring, angielski Nobody’s perfect.
fox, angielski FO3 was kind of a disaster in terms of narrative and roleplay. And the established world building.
Kir, angielski Then you are objectively right
leftzero, angielski They got rid of the dialogue wheel and went back to a list of options (influenced by character background / skills), so at least there’s that, I suppose.
OptimusPrimeRib, angielski I’ve heard nothing but good things about gameplay. But it runs like shit on most systems. A RTX 3080 at 1440p ultra can’t get 60 fps in cities.
FxSoap, angielski Is there a torrent somewhere…?
_TK, angielski resources in the Megathread link pinned to the community can lead you there.
Blxter, angielski Did starfield not have denuvo drm. I thought most Bethesda games did.
Entropy, angielski None of them do. It would fuck with people’s ability to make mods for them.
Blxter, angielski True. I guess I thought that because “ghost wire Tokyo” and “redfall” do. But makes sense for a game like starfield to not
wolfshadowheart, angielski Bethesda is a publisher as well which explains that
Entropy, angielski Yeah those games are only published by Bethesda, not developed. Their in house games never have DRM, unless you count steam.
Rayspekt, angielski redfall
Best copyright protection for Redfall is that the game is shit and nobody wants to play it.
AtomicPurple, angielski Which sucks, because Arkane was one of my favorite developers before the quality of their output fell off over the past five years. I loved the Dishonored games, and Prey is the single best immersive sim ever made. I was looking forward to DeathLoop, but it ended up being kinda meh, and Redfall has been so universally panned that I haven't even bothered to try it.
Holzkohlen, angielski I read that most of the people working there were kinda just hoping it would get canceled eventually. The game industry is so normal and fine.
dustojnikhummer, angielski Those aren’t BGS games. Bethesda that developes =/= bethesda that publishes. The latter likes DRM
dustojnikhummer, angielski Not necessairly (well, goodbye to Starfield Script Extender in that case). But I think it’s more that Gamebryo can’t integrate Denuvo lol
argv_minus_one, angielski It would also be unplayably slow. Bethesda games aren’t known for performance even without Denuvo slowing them down.
dustojnikhummer, angielski Lets not pretend that there aren’t Denuvo games without performance issues…
argv_minus_one, angielski Unless I’m mistaken, Denuvo constantly encrypts and decrypts everything in the process’ memory, including executable code, in order to conceal it. There is no way to do that without massive performance overhead.
dustojnikhummer, angielski There are uncracked Denuvo games to this day that don’t have performance issues. Not everyone is incompetent in implementing it. That doesn’t mean I’m defending it (but Reddit/Lemmy will like to take any sort of non-attack as defense sooooo), I’m just saying that there are Denuvo games that don’t suffer performance issues.
argv_minus_one, angielski Now imagine how fast they’d be without Denuvo.
hexaflexagonbear, angielski Steam/windows store drm it seems.
dustojnikhummer, angielski Bethesda Game Studios games don’t have DRM like Denuvo. BGS and Bethesda Softworks are two different entities. ID, MachineGames and other Zenimax studios tend to have DRM, not BGS.
On the other hand, didn’t Denuvo come out after Fallout 4 launched? So what would they even protect, 76?
samus12345, angielski No, Denuvo was first used in Sept. 2014 and Fallout 4 came out Nov. 2015.
dustojnikhummer, angielski Why did you start with No?
leftzero, angielski “Didn’t Denuvo come out after Fallout 4 launched?”
“No, it came out a bit more than a year earlier.”
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