MaliciousKebab,

They fast as fuck. Another W for the pirates.

ayaya,
@ayaya@lemdro.id avatar

To be fair it’s the exact same bypass as any other Steam game. Any steam emulator would work.

Blxter,
!deleted4407 avatar

Did starfield not have denuvo drm? I thought most Bethesda games did.

harmonea,
@harmonea@kbin.social avatar

Bethesda the publisher does things differently than Bethesda the developer.

As a dev, they know their modding communities keep their games alive long, long past their expiration dates and will fuck with them as little as they possibly can - this takes them from games to household names to legends that everyone knows.

As a publisher pushing products that aren't intended to be modded, they drink the koolaid.

Qualanqui,

I disagree about the publishing side somewhat, every now and then the publishing team hits a home run. Like I’ve been playing Ghostwire: Tokyo recently which is published by Bethesda and it’s a pretty good game, and let’s not forget Prey which was an awesome game also published by Bethesda.

So tbey do get it right sometimes.

harmonea, (edited )
@harmonea@kbin.social avatar

I didn't say they don't make good games. I said they drink the koolaid.

Context matters, and in the context of this thread (whether or not Bethesda games often have Denuvo) that means the anti-piracy "DRM is neat" koolaid (vs them avoiding DRM for self-developed games so they can be modded extensively).

roon,
@roon@lemmy.ml avatar

WTF is/was this comment? It’s killing me lol

Blxter,
!deleted4407 avatar

Lol it was this “lemmy.zip/comment/2283511” /\ Did starfield not have denuvo drm. I thought most Bethesda games did. ", I tried to delete it but obviously not lol.

barrbaric,

Huh, the game isn’t even out yet. 🏴‍☠️ stay winning, I guess.

hexaflexagonbear,
@hexaflexagonbear@hexbear.net avatar

It’s out on (paid) early access. Think that’s how they got the game files lol.

samus12345, (edited )
@samus12345@sh.itjust.works avatar

As soon as anyone can download a game, all pirates can too (unless Denuvo)!

redditReallySucks,
@redditReallySucks@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

“Cracked” meaning having replaced a dll file

TheCaconym,

Exactly; this just needed an emulator like goldberg

Bethesda games usually don’t go for heavy DRM stuff (beyond the basic steam DRM), because it impairs modding (especially injection / nonofficial modding, stuff like SKSE for skyrim)

people_are_cute,
@people_are_cute@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Doom Eternal has Denuvo.

rockhandle,
@rockhandle@lemm.ee avatar

It was developed by ID I believe, bethesda only published the game.

_TK,
@_TK@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz avatar

And is developed by ID software, not Bethesda Game Studios. Bethesda the publisher has different tactics when it comes to games not developed by BGS.

SoloboiNanook,

It had denuvo but the game shipped with a denuvo-less exe so it was “cracked” day 1 lol.

Mighta been the 2016 doom but regardless it was funny lol

Ozzy,

I have to applaud Bethesda for this decision, it is something that is very nice for the end user.

TechnoBabble,

It really is a big move, since it likely cost them millions in early sales.

I probably would have bought it already if I couldn’t find a crack, but now I can pirate and wait for a nice sale.

I’m sure I’m not the only one.

Ozzy,

Tbh what you’re doing is exactly what I did too with Skyrim. Downloaded a crack played for probably 1k hours and then bought it just to play 1k more

totallynotfbi,

They don’t even replace the DLL file for you! After you run the RUNE installer, you have to copy the emulator yourself

TechnoBabble,

You can just click the checkbox for “Copy crack to install directory” to get the installer to do everything for you.

I’m not sure why that isn’t the default.

CookieJarObserver,
@CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works avatar

Im not pre-ordering piracy either.

Im waiting for the reviews.

li10,
muse,
@muse@kbin.social avatar

Reviews hit yesterday, check your preferred gaming sites

7Sea_Sailor,

The review embargo was lifted with the start of the early access, meaning that all the regular review channels that received review copies have already posted their content.

Steeve,

That’s not “pre-ordering”. Go write the reviews

bookmeat,

Go watch people actually play it in twitch or steam or YouTube. See if you like it. Why wait for someone else’s opinion?

TechnoBabble,

And also, the “early access” is just a way to get people to pay more for the game in the first week.

By all reasonable standards, the game has been fully released.

“Pre-ordering piracy”… What does that even mean?

felykiosa,

Can you give a link please?thx

Sephtis-6,

Would be awesome if someone made a mod that would make this the main loading screen

DoucheBagMcSwag, (edited )

Fuck off and look yourself

EDIT: stay mad lmfao

And009,

Name checks out

felykiosa,

Completely

samus12345,
@samus12345@sh.itjust.works avatar

Check megathread on sidebar.

felykiosa,

Why I was down voted to hell wtf? We can t demand link on a piracy sub?-?

felykiosa,

I just readed the rules wtf . no link on a piracy sub . for me there is no interest in it if I have to research my torrent myself .

Polar,

DODI-REPACKS.

Not sure why these assholes here are acting like this is reddit where the sub could be shut down. The dude runs his own instance…

Chickerino,
machinaeZER0,

Starfield and Friends

slimjimjohnson69,

I can hear it

UlyssesT,
robot_dog_with_gun,

We’re ready to party, we’re ready

FatTony,

Stars are there…

KevinDeRodeTovenaar,

Thank you for sharing

CluelessDude,

John…I’m watching you…

Blxter,
!deleted4407 avatar

Did starfield not have denuvo drm. I thought most Bethesda games did.

Entropy,

None of them do. It would fuck with people’s ability to make mods for them.

Blxter,
!deleted4407 avatar

True. I guess I thought that because “ghost wire Tokyo” and “redfall” do. But makes sense for a game like starfield to not

wolfshadowheart,
@wolfshadowheart@kbin.social avatar

Bethesda is a publisher as well which explains that

Entropy,

Yeah those games are only published by Bethesda, not developed. Their in house games never have DRM, unless you count steam.

Rayspekt,

redfall

Best copyright protection for Redfall is that the game is shit and nobody wants to play it.

AtomicPurple,
@AtomicPurple@kbin.social avatar

Which sucks, because Arkane was one of my favorite developers before the quality of their output fell off over the past five years. I loved the Dishonored games, and Prey is the single best immersive sim ever made. I was looking forward to DeathLoop, but it ended up being kinda meh, and Redfall has been so universally panned that I haven't even bothered to try it.

Holzkohlen,

I read that most of the people working there were kinda just hoping it would get canceled eventually. The game industry is so normal and fine.

dustojnikhummer,

Those aren’t BGS games. Bethesda that developes =/= bethesda that publishes. The latter likes DRM

dustojnikhummer,

Not necessairly (well, goodbye to Starfield Script Extender in that case). But I think it’s more that Gamebryo can’t integrate Denuvo lol

argv_minus_one,

It would also be unplayably slow. Bethesda games aren’t known for performance even without Denuvo slowing them down.

dustojnikhummer,

Lets not pretend that there aren’t Denuvo games without performance issues…

argv_minus_one,

Unless I’m mistaken, Denuvo constantly encrypts and decrypts everything in the process’ memory, including executable code, in order to conceal it. There is no way to do that without massive performance overhead.

dustojnikhummer,

There are uncracked Denuvo games to this day that don’t have performance issues. Not everyone is incompetent in implementing it. That doesn’t mean I’m defending it (but Reddit/Lemmy will like to take any sort of non-attack as defense sooooo), I’m just saying that there are Denuvo games that don’t suffer performance issues.

argv_minus_one,

Now imagine how fast they’d be without Denuvo.

hexaflexagonbear,
@hexaflexagonbear@hexbear.net avatar

Steam/windows store drm it seems.

dustojnikhummer,

Bethesda Game Studios games don’t have DRM like Denuvo. BGS and Bethesda Softworks are two different entities. ID, MachineGames and other Zenimax studios tend to have DRM, not BGS.

On the other hand, didn’t Denuvo come out after Fallout 4 launched? So what would they even protect, 76?

samus12345,
@samus12345@sh.itjust.works avatar

No, Denuvo was first used in Sept. 2014 and Fallout 4 came out Nov. 2015.

dustojnikhummer,

Why did you start with No?

leftzero,

“Didn’t Denuvo come out after Fallout 4 launched?”

No, it came out a bit more than a year earlier.”

redcalcium,

WTF?! The game is not even released on steam yet? Are they cracking the preloaded version?

adaveinthelife,

AFAIK the digital deluxe edition allows you to start playing 5 days early.

wheresmypillow,

Can confirm. Started playing this morning.

Nythos,

What’s your opinion so far?

wheresmypillow,

Skyrim in space. Exactly what I was hoping it would be.

Saneless,

Except when I stole some dude’s sandwich, instead of being arrested he just said “Hey that’s my sandwich!” And then sighed, defeated

Definitely a better experience already than Skyrim

ICastFist,
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

Are there any small pets or chickens for you to murder and get a massive bounty on your head?

dustojnikhummer,

There is no “play 5 days early”. The game launched on 1st of September. But those who can’t afford to shell out 100 Euros have to wait 5 more days. Microsoft did the same bullshit with Forza. I didn’t like it back then, I won’t like it now.

argv_minus_one,

Why would you want to play a Bethesda game 5 days early? The best time is several months after release, when the community has had time to fix the bugs.

Frog-Brawler,
@Frog-Brawler@kbin.social avatar

I was playing it last night on steam. I needed a new GPU recently and it came with a code to download it. 🤷‍♂️

TechnoBabble,

Which GPU did you get?

TehPers,

For me, I got a Framework 16 and the GPU module came with a code.

Hyperi0n,

There was a 5 day early access, at least on gamepass.

ScoobyDoo27,

I have gamepass ultimate and it says I can’t play till the 6th

HiT3k,

Have to buy deluxe. Timed exclusive bullshit.

TechnoBabble,

Do you keep the game if you get the “Deluxe Upgrade” on GamePass? Or do you have to keep paying the subscription if you want to play?

HiT3k,

No, not sure how they handle it. I think the upgrade applies to either a purchased version or Game Pass version, but if you don’t buy or sub, you wasted $35

Kolanaki,
!deleted6508 avatar

Does this mean I can pirate it early? 😮

wolfshadowheart,
@wolfshadowheart@kbin.social avatar

Something is available, whether or not its safe is another story.

Kolanaki,
!deleted6508 avatar

I got nothing to care about. I can nuke my drives at any time and not feel the loss. Plus Dauphong has never let me down.

wolfshadowheart,
@wolfshadowheart@kbin.social avatar

Alrighty well feel free to reach out, I'll be heading to bed in a second here but magnets are just so interesting it's worth discussing

Kolanaki, (edited )
!deleted6508 avatar

Nothing popped up when scanning it. Not even the crack being flagged as a crack.

Game runs like ass tho. Everything but my GPU meets recommended. I still have a 1660 Super. Get anywhere between 30 and 60 with low settings, depending on where I am and what’s going on. First game in a while to just cripple my shit. 😩

wolfshadowheart,
@wolfshadowheart@kbin.social avatar

It's running well for SWIM but the hardware is a 5800X3D and a 3080 so it would be a shame if it didn't.

Some areas are another than others though, classic Skyrim

Kolanaki,
!deleted6508 avatar

It’s weird how being in a small room gets me about 32 fps, but then going outside into a forest I get 60. Usually it’s the other way around, with interiors being the faster zone. 🤷🏻‍♂️

I’ve seen some others getting similar results on a 3080 with the same CPU (Rysen 5 3600X) I have though, so now I’m not even sure upgrading my hardware would make a difference and it’s probably just classic Bethesda optimizations.

Entropy,

It’s up on IPT already

KevinDeRodeTovenaar,

What is IPT?

matey,

IPTorrents, a private BitTorrent tracker.

Zoidsberg,
@Zoidsberg@lemmy.ca avatar

Shhh

samus12345,
@samus12345@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yes, but it’s huge, over 100GB. BG3 all over again!

Mixel,

Thats nice. One question tho is rune codex now? Since I saw on elamigos that rune/codex refere to the same people

UlyssesT,
vagrantprodigy,

Wonder if the cracked version crashes when starting a new game like the steam version does…

beirut_bootleg,

Kill any overlay apps like MSI. Process Explorer can crash it too. Just kill everything. Had this issue with FO76.

vagrantprodigy,

No overlays running, still crashes. I’m seeing quite a few people reporting this online, both with AMD and Nvidia, and of course Intel cards don’t work at all on this game.

Techmaster,

Is anybody on earth stupid enough to buy an Intel GPU?

ObiGynKenobi,

Anyone who wants AC Mirage and Nightingale? Anyone who supports disrupting the duopoly that, driven by corporate greed, has effectively priced the “budget card” out of existence over the last decade? Those 2 are just off the top of my head.

If I was in the market for a GPU, I’d probably buy Intel Battlemage on principle. At least then I can criticize the current state of the GPU industry without being hypocritical.

TheOakTree,

Awful shortsighted of a comment from a self-proclaimed “Techmaster” lol

Techmaster,

Guess I found one.

milkjug,
@milkjug@beehaw.org avatar

Devs: “it works fine on my machine”. At this point games should just come with their own OSes. Or hardware. Hell, ship 'em like arcade boxes.

BeeCoffee,
@BeeCoffee@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

The amount of leachers are a sight to see

Serinus,

The four day head start thing being bullshit was a good point. But yeah, I’m not likely to pirate an executable any time soon.

BeeCoffee,
@BeeCoffee@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Time and money consuming, new hard drive, install windows, install the exe and check if that wasn’t a malware, or a VM, GPU pass trough, install win and starfield

Serinus,

Yeah, this is probably the way I’d go about it. Dedicated hard drive, separate/no network access, no access to other files. Who cares if it is malware if it can’t get to anything.

BurnedDonutHole,

And even it’s cracked from I won’t be able to play it thanks to my old as system and my lack of will to purchase a new one untill it dies.

Qualanqui,

Haha I was thinking along similar lines, my R5 1600 is either going to take to it with it’s usual shrug while it rolls up it’s sleeves or just explode, it still punches way above it’s weight so hopefully it won’t explode but she’s getting a bit long in the tooth.

MattsAlt,
@MattsAlt@hexbear.net avatar

Same 😭

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