Has YouTube Blocked Your Adblocker Yet?? angielski

UPDATE 2It seems that starting today, uBlock Origin is working to combat this Youtube Block. Mine started working again! Lets all thank the devs of UBO for fighting this fight!

UPDATESo as new info comes out, I’ll be posting it here. It seems as if this Rollout Has Several Parts.

Part 1

You get a popup message over top of your video, blocking the screen: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/bd0e0c67-f37d-4b82-a5b8-1703542f0af1.jpeg

  • This is the first sign. If you see this popup AND are logged into a YouTube account, your account has been selected.
  • At this stage you can likely close or block these messages with an adblocker.

Part 2

This message will change, indicating that you have 3 remaining videos to watch without ads.

Will insert photo once one has been found

  • At this stage your adblocker will imminently stop working in 3 videos time.
  • Personally using Firefox + uBlock Origin and tweaking filters and updates does not even fix it.

Part 3

None of the video loads now, everything looks blank.

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/e37261ac-cf82-4ecd-9481-bea42029a3a0.png

  • At this stage you must tred new ground to avoid ads. I have posted methods in the comments. If you want to bypass this end page, read down there.

End of Update

YouTube has started rolling out anti-adblock to users inside the United States, which means that they are preparing to roll this out to the entire country. Personally, I have been blocked already. I want to gauge how common this occurrence is.

HughJanus,

Voting over VPN not allowed. Might try Cryptpad or I think Framasoft has a voting platform.

unabatedshagie,
@unabatedshagie@kbin.social avatar

No.

TheCraiggers,
@TheCraiggers@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I’ve got so many layers of adblock it’s hard to know which one(s) are responsible for blocking the ads.

DARbarian,
@DARbarian@artemis.camp avatar

Same here. Was just explaining to a coworker who was complaining about YT ads that I "just" use PiHole+Unbound for network blocking, AirVPN with DNS blocking, mullvad Private DNS on Android, and then Libretube to view my self-hosted Piped instance. As I said it I realized how ridiculous it's gotten and how deranged I probably sound.

NumbersCanBeFun,
@NumbersCanBeFun@kbin.social avatar

This all sounds like extremely reasonable to me. Fuck the haters.

UndefinedIsNotAFunction,

Same. Keep up the good work.

DARbarian,
@DARbarian@artemis.camp avatar

Haha I appreciate y'all! Next stop: Tor City

can,

Reasonable, yes. Feasible for everyone? Not necessarily. I would like to get at least a pihole going at some point but for now ublock origin and ReVanced have been enough for me.

SomeBoyo,

Why do you need adblock, when using piped?

Darkassassin07,
@Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca avatar

Because the internet includes more than just youtube…?

DARbarian,
@DARbarian@artemis.camp avatar

For everything other than Youtube!

reflex,
@reflex@kbin.social avatar

PiHole+Unbound . . . AirVPN with DNS blocking, mullvad Private DNS . . . Libretube

This is what I pictured reading all that.

DARbarian,
@DARbarian@artemis.camp avatar

Hahaha yeah I may have went a little berserk there

Very_Bad_Janet,

Did your coworker know what you were talking about? Also, please explain how AirVPN with DNS blocking works.

DARbarian,
@DARbarian@artemis.camp avatar

Well they were already talking UBO and PiHoles, so I had faith lol AirVPN has the option to add blocklists to its DNS. Obviously with everything else I don't really need it, but it can't hurt.

TrustingZebra,

I just use use uBlock Origin.

DARbarian,
@DARbarian@artemis.camp avatar

I didn't think that could block Youtube ads alone? Like Hulu and Spotify

TrustingZebra,

Before this new behavior uBlock Origin always blocked YouTube ads.

Risk,

I mean, it did up until maybe now.

nudnyekscentryk,
@nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info avatar

still does outside the US

Emanuel,

Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t the point of using Piped having a proxy between you and YouTube? Or are you serving your instance to friends/family so that your queries get mixed together?

DARbarian,
@DARbarian@artemis.camp avatar

Yeah that's the point. I do use my instance for links when sharing to people, but the main reason I selfhosted was for control and mostly just fun

entropy,
@entropy@not.alazy.dev avatar

pi-hole means no ads anywhere!

eleqtric-conjurer,

If your pihole can block YouTube ads please tell me how!

Barky,

This doesn’t prevent YouTube ads. Source: have a pi-hole

Poggervania,
@Poggervania@kbin.social avatar

Actually not true, the way YouTube ads show up is more or less almost impossible for pi-holes to catch. There’s been some successes in the past, but then YouTube ads somehow find another way to circumvent it.

Source: have pi-hole

Chewy7324,

Unless the ad is served on the same domain as the video. There’s no way to block the ad through DNS without blocking the video too.

GreenMario,

Firefox + UBO and ReVanced still working rn.

refurbishedrefurbisher, (edited )

I haven’t used youtube.com to watch YouTube in years. NewPipe x SponsorBlock (polymorphicshade) on mobile, SmartTubeNext on TV, Invidious, Piped, or FreeTube on desktop.

XYZinferno,

Hadn’t heard of FreeTube before, thanks for mentioning it!

riley0,
@riley0@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Thanks! Freetube works great. Here are directions for importing YT subscriptions. docs.freetubeapp.io/…/importing-subscriptions/

tombuben,

I pay for premium.

I spend like 20x time on YouTube compared to other premium streaming services, knowing the money at least partially goes to the creators and that it’s usually a much larger source of revenue than the midroll ads (and the fact I spend like 40% of my watch time on an iPad) makes it pretty worth it to me. Other than that I use uBlock on medium/high, but if there was an extention that could skip the sponsor segments inside the videos themselves I’d use it in a heartbeat.

Chef_Boyardee,

It’s a no-brainer. You get a music service at the same price as everyone else. They just add on ad-free YouTube. I don’t get why so many people hate the idea of it.

blaine,

I've had Google Play Music (and YouTube Premium as a freebie) since it launched at $7.99 per month. Folks like me who were grandfathered in at that price just got an increase to $13.99, which forced me to cancel. I can't afford restaurants or takeout anymore with inflation as bad as it is, and I guess I can't afford YouTube either.

snowbell,
@snowbell@beehaw.org avatar

I don’t like YouTube Music

Flynn_Mandrake,
@Flynn_Mandrake@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Sure there is addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/…/sponsorblock/

DaGeek247,
@DaGeek247@kbin.social avatar

if there was an extention that could skip the sponsor segments inside the videos themselves I’d use it in a heartbeat.

sponsorblock does that. it's crowd sourced, so it doesn't always work with the small channel newest videos, but it's very good at what it does considering.

Thorny_Thicket,

It’s quite amazing how well sponsorblock works really. I spend a shit ton of time on youtube and I almost never have to mark those sections of the video myself because someone else did it already.

nudnyekscentryk,
@nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info avatar

someone previously marked all breaks inbetween numbers in this 3h video as intermissions. though now I see they’ve been removed and there’s merely one highlight in there

bamboo,

If you have access to a VPN you can also buy premium for a much smaller price in another region. I bought a year for 16 USD via India.

WtfEvenIsExistence,

Wait till they start assigning pricing based on your payment info’s location.

Lobo6780,

I buy it in turkey

ninpnin,

if there was an extention that could skip the sponsor segments inside the videos themselves I’d use it in a heartbeat.

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nudnyekscentryk,
@nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info avatar

SponsorBlocks does that but it either requires non-webkit Firefox or Revanced, which means you can’t get it any way on iOS

Flynn_Mandrake,
@Flynn_Mandrake@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I’ve started to just download videos with yt-dlp after grabbing links via Invidious. Using Invidious itself has become somewhat unreliable lately, and this way I don’t have to put up with buffering and can watch in good quality. Cut out the middle men

altima_neo,
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

I have to wonder if once the ad blocking gets fully rolled out if yt-dlp will also cease to work?

Flynn_Mandrake,
@Flynn_Mandrake@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Good question. I’d hope not

ReversalHatchery,

MPV can directly play yt videos (it uses a built-in copy of yt-dlp afaik), and it’s very configurable. I always watch yt videos with it.

Sometimes it would be useful if it could use a proxy like piped or invidious, but those links don’t work

Flynn_Mandrake,
@Flynn_Mandrake@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Ooh, I should try that! I already use mpv, so that’d streamline things a bit

ReversalHatchery,

Consider upping the cache for youtube. By default it is 2 minutes, which is mostly fine, except that if you are speeding through a part with 2x or faster, you may quickly run out of that small cache, because it only loads with the speed of something between 1x and 2x.
And then you may also set up saving the cache to disk instead of RAM, because it may be quite larger. Single config option.
You can make these only apply for youtube videos only with conditional auto profiles. The doc has an example for an automatic youtube profile, it’s perfect.

Flynn_Mandrake,
@Flynn_Mandrake@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I don’t use the main YouTube website at all anymore. A big reason for this is that I spend a lot of time using a really weak laptop that tends to struggle with the JavaScript-laden abomination that is modern corporate web design. Firefox itself struggles as well, so I primarily use Luakit with Invidious, which runs peachy. I also put together a local html page for my bookmarks that is generated from Yaml using a small C application (which is not optimal, I know, but I’ve been learning C and this was a good opportunity). Whenever something doesn’t work in Luakit, I evade to Palemoon. I also tried watching YouTube via mpv earlier, and it’s great! It runs infinitely better than any web player at max resolution and buffers the whole video. Never going back.

ReversalHatchery,

I meant too increase the cache for yt videos in mpv :)

But you say it buffers the whole video, so maybe already changed something to do that

But yeah, I agree on your other points. If youtube blocks yt-dlp, mpv and proxies, then I’m done with it.

krimson,
@krimson@feddit.nl avatar

Do you self host Invidious? I have zero issues with it self hosted.

wolfshadowheart,
@wolfshadowheart@kbin.social avatar

Isn't it just rolling out for Chrome users? Won't Firefox be unaffected?

Honse,

No, im using Librewolf and i am blocked currently.

wolfshadowheart,
@wolfshadowheart@kbin.social avatar

Ah I see. It begins I guess :(

WtfEvenIsExistence,

I recommend downloading every youtube video you enjoyed watching and start reuploading them to peertube (although, I fear that youtube might just file copyright claims against the peertube instance).

QuazarOmega,

I believe most videos aren’t licensed for unrestricted redistribution, you’re putting yourself and/or your instance owner at risk by uploading content you don’t own.
However I support the general idea, I just don’t know what the best way to share the content safely would be

speq,

For those who don’t know: VLC also takes a YouTube video address as input (in the menu: Media | Open Network Stream…).

snowbell,
@snowbell@beehaw.org avatar

Strange, that doesn’t work for me

lemann,

Update your VLC player if you haven’t already.

There is also a way to individually update just the extractor LUA script that VLC uses to play YT videos, but I haven’t messed with that in so long I’ve forgotten how to do it

can,

VLC is so damn good

determinism2,

This has not worked for me in a very long time.

Venus,
@Venus@hexbear.net avatar

Your vlc is probably busted and could use a reinstall. Happened to me once. It still works.

commie,

i thought maybe this would work for me: nope. it was awesome when it worked but it’s completely broken afaict.

hakase,

The irony of this poll blocking access from users with a VPN.

barberousse,
@barberousse@lemmy.ca avatar

Yep, I can’t vote because I have a VPN.

Thorny_Thicket,

Huh… Worked for me

LoafyLemon,

No problems with Mozilla VPN

HumanPerson,

I only watch Rossmann’s channel anymore so I will probably just quit if they block mine. I use uBlock Origin + Librewolf + VPN + pihole + a random user agent extension. When I set my VPN to USA it still doesn’t say anything.

DARbarian,
@DARbarian@artemis.camp avatar

I have almost the exact same setup! But please tell me more about this random user agent extension

HumanPerson,

This is it: addons.mozilla.org/en-US/…/random_user_agent/

It breaks some sites but is very configurable and you will probably be able to get it to work. I believe it is GPL but it may be Mozilla license.

Drewski,

Louis Rossman is also on Odysee: https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a

HumanPerson,

Yay I can quit google completely!!!

theshatterstone54,

YES! One of the creators I can keep on watching when I quit (by the end of the week probably, or when they kill off newpipe)

FeelThePower,

I load the old 2014-2017 layout locally from my C drive as my localhost and proxy it to load when i type in youtube dot com. avoids ads, increases performance, and looks better as a layout all in one.

lemmyvore,

I sincerely doubt the 2017 API still works today. Apps like NewPipe have to update every month to keep up with it, and old YouTube mobile app versions don’t work anymore.

FeelThePower,

look up rehike for youtube if you are curious. It works for me and many people.

henfredemars,

This is such a better use of their time and dollars versus improving their service to make it more attractive to customers.

If this is the change that really sets them financially straight, then I would say they have a failing business model.

jabberati,
@jabberati@social.anoxinon.de avatar

@henfredemars @Honse Really depends on how many people are using ad blockers. Probably it pays off for them to implement ad block blocking.

01189998819991197253,
@01189998819991197253@infosec.pub avatar

From what I read on their own report, less than 2% use adblocks.

snowbell,
@snowbell@beehaw.org avatar

That is depressing

01189998819991197253,
@01189998819991197253@infosec.pub avatar

Agreed. Sadly, agreed.

Landrin201,
@Landrin201@lemmy.ml avatar

If premium cost $5per month I’d pay for it, u use YouTube all the time

No way in hell it’s worth $15 a month though, their pricing is completely brwindead

IIIIII,

I agree. It’s around $22 NZD and that is just too steep. They have a slightly cheaper one but you can’t background play with it. I’m sick of being nickel and dimed at every possible opportunity and then hearing about how these companies are making record profits.

kionite231,

I won’t give a penny to the evil google.

Petter1,

Just make a (digital) trip to India and get family of 5 accounts for about 1$ a month per account. This the way I did it.

charles,

It’s $25/mo for family. I hate that I pay for it, but I use music, and I mostly watch YouTube on a streaming device, so I’ve never been able to use ad blockers. $15 for the fam felt worth it, but $25 has me rethinking. Maybe I can configure YT-DL to get the shows I care about on my Plex

TwoCubed,

Any android based streaming device can run SmartTube (formerly SmartTube next). On an Android phone you can patch the YouTube apk with revanced, which also gives you full access to yt music.

skullgiver,
@skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl avatar

Do you guys not get Youtube Premium Lite? It’s €7 per month to get rid of ads and doesn’t include stuff most people aren’t interested in like Youtube music.

Landrin201,
@Landrin201@lemmy.ml avatar

Nope, not available her ein the states.

splendoruranium,

This is such a better use of their time and dollars versus improving their service to make it more attractive to customers.

Making their service more attractive to customers is precicesly what they’re trying to do.

It’s just that an advertising agency’s customers are not the folk who watch, read or hear the ads, it’s the folk who pay for the ads.

tryptaminev,
@tryptaminev@feddit.de avatar

I am not sure if it will work out like this though. The amount of ads they are forcing down peoples throat is isane. Eventually it will make people consume less videos and with that less ads overall.

BlueBockser,

And thus the enshittification cycle completes

splendoruranium,

I am not sure if it will work out like this though. The amount of ads they are forcing down peoples throat is isane. Eventually it will make people consume less videos and with that less ads overall.

Sure, could be - but keep in mind that they have all the relevant usage data at hand. Any decrease in service popularity among users (or indeed any kind of user behavior) is immediately visible to them. They have the means to know exactly what annoyances the market will bear.

And considering that YouTube still holds a de-facto monopoly on video discoverability within the entire anglophone internet I feel like it’s safe to say that the market will likely bear a lot more annoyances :P

doggle,

You are not the customer. You are the product.

theshatterstone54,

Yes, but if they destroy their products (aka drive users away) their real customers (ad companies) will pull out.

machinya,

capitalism (or at least the weird version of it used in the tech world) is about short term profit. if they get good numbers from this, they can make future projections of an imaginary increase over the years and make the ad companies happy for a while. they do not care about breaking the product in the long term

theshatterstone54,

I know. This was just the intelligent person view. In reality, as you said, they only care about short term profit, and can you blame them? Things can change overnight in the tech world. Google (as a product) was undisputed until ChatGPT was released and integrated into Bing, now Alphabet is falling vehind and losing its dominance on the market.

ours,

Just ask Twitter/X or what’s left ot it.

skullgiver,
@skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl avatar

Why would the ad companies back out if Youtube got rid of the people who were blocking their ads anyway? If anything, it makes Youtube a safer investment.

theshatterstone54,

Less viewer numbers to show to advertisers.

skullgiver,
@skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl avatar

They’re already in hot water because of lying to their customers over this. They actually track ad blocker usage because lying about ads getting played when they weren’t would be fraud. In fact they’re getting sued by a whole bunch of advertisers because the “100% verified watched ads on Youtube.com” were actually playing in hidden frames on random websites.

I’m pretty sure the anti blocking, remote attestation direction Google is taking is an attempt to quickly fix this situation before it can get out of hand. They don’t know what ads plays are legitimate anymore and their customers are angry about it.

Worst case scenario, all Youtube advertisers over the last x years get their money back with some compensation, which would be devastating to Youtube as a product.

gravitas_deficiency,

So you know that the people watching YouTube aren’t really considered “customers” by google in the traditional sense, right?

HawlSera,

Ublock Origin still works for me

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