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DarylDutch, w Dusk: Unpopular opinion: I'd rather pay Valve 30% and put up with their de facto monopoly than help Epic work towards their own (very obviously desired) monopoly

I get it. Steam doesn’t seem to do exclusivity deals with 3rd party titles. So you could still sell your game on gog and humble without issue.

Kecessa,

They control prices though, can’t sell for less on another platform.

Zorque,

Of course you can, just not steam keys.

Honytawk,

If it was only about Steam keys, there wouldn’t have been a lawsuit.

Paranomaly, (edited )
@Paranomaly@sh.itjust.works avatar

They don’t though? Devs set the price. Steam just says that you need the same base price there as elsewhere.

rambaroo,

Yeah because if you don’t, they delist your game. That’s the literal definition of anti-competitiveness. They could never get away with that if they weren’t a monopoly.

stillwater,

That’s the literal definition of anti-competitiveness.

No it isn’t. That’s actually a very common store policy that’s been in place since the days of brick and mortar locations. Why do you think you never see any platform listing games at higher or lower full retail prices than every other one regularly, even when they’re not on Steam?

Where did you get the idea that this was the definition of anti-competitive? There are so many more things that define it more, like buying up all the competition or taking a big hit on loss leading pricing to force the competition to undercut themselves and collapse.

conciselyverbose, w Star Wars Fans Launch Class Action Lawsuit Over Cancelled KOTOR 2 DLC

Still, there are a few things getting in the way of the plaintiffs being successful here. For starters, games and in-game content are often cancelled - an unfortunate reality of the industry. Furthermore, even if refunds weren't granted, Aspyr did offer affected fans a copy of KOTOR 2 on Steam - where the mod can be played for free - or another Star Wars game altogether.

How is this relevant in any way?

I don't think they're legally entitled to a refund for buying a game with content that didn't exist, but neither of those are even sort of substitutes for the content or a refund.

Corkyskog,

Why don’t you think their entitled to a refund?

I don’t see how it being software makes it different than any other good.

If I advertised a car with GPS and promised next year it will be updated with live traffic data. Then I just sold a bunch of cars and decided, nah thats expensive, I am just going to leave it as is. You better believe lawsuits would be headed my way, I don’t see how this is much different. In both examples you can still use the product, it’s just not the product that was ultimately promised. Maybe I would have bought a different brand of car that already offers live traffic on their GPS, maybe I was willing to spend more on the game/car because the feature that was promised, never came.

conciselyverbose,

Because they knew it didn't exist when they bought it.

You would win your example lawsuit, too, unless you had a contract explicitly promising future services. Talking about future plans when they're clearly future plans isn't legally false advertising or any kind of legal obligation.

conciselyverbose, w BallisticNG - Moving forward after the Unity debacle

I wonder if Nintendo would consider removing the engine version requirement if enough developers make it clear it's a dealbreaker and cancel ports or stop maintenance.

wccrawford, w Star Wars Fans Launch Class Action Lawsuit Over Cancelled KOTOR 2 DLC

They deserve their refunds, but…

This is a lesson that you never buy something based on a future promise. Buy it based on what it is, not what someone says it’ll be eventually.

rikudou,
@rikudou@lemmings.world avatar

Yeah, the first and only time I did a pre-order, the company went bankrupt. I was thinking of pre-ordering something from EA in case there was a curse on me and they would go bankrupt as well.

chemical_cutthroat,
@chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world avatar

If you preorder something from them, and they go bankrupt, I will fully refund your purchase.

Sanctus,
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

Star Citizen players in shambles rn

Haui,
@Haui@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Everyone will call me naive again but how about we actually hold people to their word?

Why is it not illegal for say politicians to say one thing and do the opposite?

If a game studio says „we‘re gonna make the greatest game ever!“ I would like to make them prove it or refund everyone.

You can’t say „contains no nuts“ and put nuts in it, why is there a caveat for other stuff? Just keep to the truth. Why is it so hard to normalize advertising without tons of hyperbole?

(I‘m autistic and I see telling the truth as a good thing. I don’t understand why someone would like to be lied to. Omit something to not hurt them, ok. But outright lying is wrong on a binary level imo. As in not ok ever.)

JowlesMcGee,
@JowlesMcGee@kbin.social avatar

You're right, they should be held accountable. Unfortunately, the easiest and most effective way to hold them accountable for the average person is to not blindly trust them. There just isn't good forms of recourse for us to challenge things like this when it happens, so the best bet is to not preorder things so that they have to prove it is what they say it will be.

Haui,
@Haui@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I agree. But I also believe that we give up to easily because „thats the way it is“. My point is we should push more in the other direction and try to go binary (right/wrong) as much as possible. If something is morally wrong, it needs to be put into law asap nearly no matter the cost.

Sethayy,

way too much noise in the average population tho, people are thinking about their entire lives not just what is 100% most correct.

But we do have a system of laws for things like this, but they only work for the rich ofc

ILikeBoobies,

It’s very difficult to draw the line between lying and someone being mistaken

A politician can want to do X then learn it’s impossible

A game can promise X then run out of money before accomplishing it

Haui,
@Haui@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I agree 100%. In business, you have to prove your innocence when subject to a lawsuit. Same goes for lying imo.

If you ran out of money to keep your promise, you will be able to prove that. Same goes for having to compromise to get some other benefit.

The initial point I was trying to make is that we are so accustomed (imo) to being lied to that we don’t make people prove that they didn’t plan that from the beginning.

For example: where I live, it is common practice to make food pictures for ads or menus that a) dont resemble the final product and b) are made with completely different, often inedible substances to look like a better version of the real deal. Something that an hones picture can never achieve. This needs to be illegal. This is not someone running out of money or compromising but premeditated lying.

QuantumEyetanglement, w Xbox head Phil Spencer says he "always wanted us to go back and revisit MechAssault"

AC6 is doing a great job of filling my mech void currently! Highly recommend for fans of the previous games or genre as a whole

clay_pidgin, (edited )

Mechwarrior 6 is about to release the Clan Invasion … DLC? It might be a separate release technically. If you’re interested in a more simulator-like experience.

QuantumEyetanglement,

Thanks for the rec! Will look into it!

clay_pidgin,

You betcha. There’s also Mechwarrior:Online, which is a separate game. Multiplayer battles with rankings and unlocks and stuff. I haven’t tried it but the gameplay looks fun.

sarge, w Cal Kestis actor confirms Star Wars Jedi 3 during Comic Con panel

Vince Zampella: “KESTIIIIIIIIIISSSSSS”

CannedTuna, w Xbox head Phil Spencer says he "always wanted us to go back and revisit MechAssault"

Me too man. Me too.

toxicbubble, w Dragon's Dogma 2 brings back all the joy of Capcom's 2012 cult hit with few real changes

haven’t played much but the original felt a little uncanny, like the characters have no personality. otherwise, one of the best combat systems, customization, & controls i ever played. could do without the climbing mechanic, it takes some getting used to but feels like shadow of the colossus in a way

TrismegistusMx, w Godot Engine hits over 50K euros per month in funding
@TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world avatar

I have big hopes for an open source future.

MarcomachtKuchen, w Godot Engine hits over 50K euros per month in funding

This is great news! Can anyone explain me how the engine Managed to get 25k BEFORE the the unity Desaster? It seems like a really high number without mayor Investors

geosoco,

This isn't that strange for a number of open source projects. I don't know Godot's specifics, but lots of folks are willing to toss a few bucks via patreon or other sources. They keep a list of donors who don't mind being named in the source code, and it includes a few companies that make monthly donations. I'm sure they get a number of grants like this one from Epic.

There's a number of mastodon servers where people pay donate monthly to them.

MarcomachtKuchen,

Man People can be so awesome. All the Bad news makes me forget that way to often

nanoUFO,
@nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works avatar

It has corporate investors/sponsors at the gold level one of them being gambling service and the rest being mostly mobile devs. The pateron hasn’t really gone up since last year.

epicsninja, w AR horror Scrylight will "blur the boundaries of what’s real and what isn't"

So it’s a horror game that only works in houses with modern appliances.

vaultdweller013,

Behold my stuff!

Pile of old as shit appliances

smeg,

Granting a third party full access to all the questionably-secured devices in your home is the real horror

taladar,

To an IT person a house full of “smart” devices is already a horror to behold.

smeg,

You know what they say, the S in IoT stands for Security!

ChaoticEntropy, w New Star Wars Jedi Game Is in the Works, Cal Kestis Voice Actor Reveals
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I enjoy these games and their premise but their dedication to not giving a shit about PC players is a real turn off.

Pea666, w New Star Wars Jedi Game Is in the Works, Cal Kestis Voice Actor Reveals

Good for him and good for the fans.

I’m pretty sad that these games aren’t my cup of tea. By all accounts they should be right up my alley but for some reason I just couldn’t get into them. I was hoping for a spiritual successor to the Jedi Knight games I guess.

Still, decent quality single player games are a welcome addition to the market.

conciselyverbose, w Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth's leads have some conflicting opinions on the term JRPG

JRPGs are a very distinct genre, and either you like it or you don't. The idea that it shouldn't get its own descriptor when it's clearly different from a crpg or other approaches to RPGs is nonsense.

pulaskiwasright,

Aren’t you impressed with how willfully blind to reality they are though? That has to be worth some internet points!

hydroel, (edited )

I don’t get how this is discriminatory - to me it’d be like saying K-pop, K-pop or French fries is.

geosoco,

Just a guess, but I would suspect it's because it's one of the few game genre's that has a nationality tied to it and it probably feels like a box they can't escape -- just because of where they're from.

To them, it's just their own spin on an RPG. No matter how much they change to make it appeal to a broader audience, they're always going to be a JRPG, which feels very limiting. It's always going to be "it's an amazing RPG if you like JRPGs", which to someone making the game probably makes you feel less than. No other country has that.

It's similar to splitting k-pop or even j-pop out. TO people making the music, they probably just want to be considered on a world stage as great pop music. Not just K-pop album of the year.

Even if people here don't mean it negatively, doesn't mean it doesn't feel like a shitty box to people. We rarely apply the same sort of boxes to things from other countries. You don't hear Abba or Robyn are the best S-pop artists of the last 50 years.

conciselyverbose,

But not every rpg from Japan is a JRPG. Not all JRPGs are from Japan.

If you don't want to be put into the JRPG box, make something that isn't a JRPG. They're in a box for a reason, and it's because they're markedly different from other RPG formats.

hydroel,

Then again, maybe the question can be raised about FFVII - Rebirth. But still, I would say that the question is raised anyway because it’s a FF (a series which largely contributed to cement the JRPG genre) and a remake of a game which is indubitably JRPG, not because it’s an RPG developed by a Japanese team.

WarmSoda, (edited ) w Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth's leads have some conflicting opinions on the term JRPG

It started during the NES and SNES days. JRPGs are a completely different style than western RPGs, that’s why the term was used.

InRlyehDreaming,

Same, been playing JRPGs since the Super Nintendo days. I’ve never seen it used as a derogatory or discriminatory term in message boards, just an easy way to differentiate western and Japanese subgenres when discussing RPGs.

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